IsentropicLift Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 What is the I 80 corridor. Who is heavy snow? I-80 corridor is route 80 +/- 30-40 miles north and south. You likely stay snow, looks like the cut off is near 94. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Warmest LI gets is 34 on the Euro. Winds are out of the NE at that time, think it will be colder. Snow maps have about 6-8" for LI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 At hr 48 the 0c 850 line is south of LI and the surface freezing line cuts through western suffolk. It's snow unless there's a warm nose that I csnt see for Nassau into NYC Hour 48 on LI 850`s -2 surface NS upper 20`s SS 32 - 33 .04 LIQUID if you`re 925`s are ok , thats snow Hour 54- its rain mid 30`s and plus 4 at 850 Yes 34 top tick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 At hr 48 the 0c 850 line is south of LI and the surface freezing line cuts through western suffolk. It's snow unless there's a warm nose that I can't see for Nassau into NYC. Hr 54 is rain for the coast Considering how abomindable the Euro is with BL temps my guess is we can subtract 2-3 degrees at least from what it shows....holds on my theory only ERN LI maybe goes to pure liquid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TWCCraig Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Considering how abomindable the Euro is with BL temps my guess is we can subtract 2-3 degrees at least from what it shows....holds on my theory only ERN LI maybe goes to pure liquid This has been my thinking for this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 OK Pauly - and our area? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Considering how abomindable the Euro is with BL temps my guess is we can subtract 2-3 degrees at least from what it shows....holds on my theory only ERN LI maybe goes to pure liquid If you take into account that low level cold is likely being under modeled a long with upper level warmth, the equation equals an extended period of icing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SleetStormNJ Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We are in trouble if that icing verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 OK Pauly - and our area? Hr 48 .05 liquid surface 32 850`s Minus 1 Snow Hr 54 .04 Rain 850`s plus 4 surface 33 -34 , close Rossi Better than yesterday bud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Since we don't have a Euro PBP person, what's the situation down here on the Euro? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mranger48 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Sounds colder than 0z euro and 6z gfs? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 How do the EURO snow maps look for the EWR/MMU area? Also does it show the 32F surface line making it there? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kborne Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 This thread its so confusing. I don't know why. Ya know. I a was just saying the same thing. Even the products put out by the NWS are confusing me. As for tomorrow's event. I can't decipher when it starts, how it starts, etc...Last page there was a text product from a NWSFO and I couldn't decipher it.. Anyway, I agree. I know this isn't a forecast site, per se, but I am still confused re: how this is all setting up for tomorrows event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rossi Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Hr 48 .05 liquid surface 32 850`s Minus 1 Snow Hr 54 .04 Rain 850`s plus 4 surface 33 -34 , close Rossi Better than yesterday bud It will probably trend colder. All models seem to be colder on each run. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Since we don't have a Euro PBP person, what's the situation down here on the Euro? Brief sleet/ZR to start before quickly flipping to rain in Philly proper. NW burbs hang on an hour or two longer. South Jersey is mostly rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I agree with snowgoose in that only E LI. Will change to pure rain, however i hope that means more snow over icing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I just saw the Euro. THAT is scary even down here. 0C line runs along I95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Brief sleet/ZR to start before quickly flipping to rain in Philly proper. NW burbs hang on an hour or two longer. South Jersey is mostly rain. I would take that over what I just saw. I enjoy having electricity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnoSki14 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Pleasantly surprised where we're headed, and I bet models trend colder as we get closer. In particular, the low level cold could get colder on the models as it often does in these situations but I'm not so sure about the mid levels for at least a 75% snow event near NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IsentropicLift Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 I would take that over what I just saw. I enjoy having electricity. The surface freezing line does start off southeast of Philly but by the next frame it's well north of the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Raw data snow and sleet totals from the Euro are 6-8" for NYC and all of NJ north of Trenton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PB GFI Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 If you shave 2 or 3 at the surface ( SNOWGOOSE ) its ZIP Hour 54 from MC onto LI highest surface is 33 to 35 with our 850`s plus 4 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Newark gets up to about 33 F during the height of the storm. Most of the area has 0.5-0.6" liquid falling as heavy snow before the 850 or 925mb freezing lines are anywhere north of Trenton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
threegirls Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Brief sleet/ZR to start before quickly flipping to rain in Philly proper. NW burbs hang on an hour or two longer. South Jersey is mostly rain. Please...what does ZR refer to? And at what approximate time is the "brief sleet/ZR" to start in Philly? Like others, I've been trying to make sense of this thread but the time designations are still confusing me. (If someone mentions 0Z they mean 7 pm east coast time, yes? And when someone refers to "hr 48 or hr 54," what is the hour from which one counts? Thanks much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atownwxwatcher Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Latest European showing 8 + from NW burbs of PHL to East Central PA to Northern NJ to NW NJ ..North Central PA is 9-12 along with SNE ..northern half of PA ,, Southern NY and SC NY State.... starting Tuesday night after midnight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zelocita Weather Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Newark gets up to about 33 F during the height of the storm. Most of the area has 0.5-0.6" liquid falling as heavy snow before the 850 or 925mb freezing lines are anywhere north of Trenton. Sweet...Thx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rib Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Please...what does ZR refer to? And at what approximate time is the "brief sleet/ZR" to start in Philly? Like others, I've been trying to make sense of this thread but the time designations are still confusing me. (If someone mentions 0Z they mean 7 pm east coast time, yes? And when someone refers to "hr 48 or hr 54," what is the hour from which one counts? Thanks much. He's saying brief sleet/freezing rain to rain for PHL but the maps I just saw said much different as the 0C line struggles to make it past 95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uofmiami Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Considering how abomindable the Euro is with BL temps my guess is we can subtract 2-3 degrees at least from what it shows....holds on my theory only ERN LI maybe goes to pure liquid Goes with OKX's thinking as well with their Watch issuance this morning for the storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The hardest call might be snow amounts, I'm not sure I buy that there won't be a quicker changeover to sleet after 2-3 hours of snow and then a long duration period of sleet before some FZRA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
96blizz Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The hardest call might be snow amounts, I'm not sure I buy that there won't be a quicker changeover to sleet after 2-3 hours of snow and then a long duration period of sleet before some FZRA Do you mean in NYC proper? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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