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Was in downtown Chicago today on 20th floor of a building overlooking the lake..

It was frozen as far as the eye could see last week... Now blue open water to the horizon and to maybe 100 yards of the shoreline..

A cam on a buoy would have given quite a show with the 40 to 50 mph winds and the ice breaking up...we need a GoPro out there somewhere

 

 

I know it was amazing. I get to see the lake everyday and it's always impressive to see what offshore winds can do to the ice pack within a day or two.

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It definitely appears that this strong system did what I was hoping and blew up the ice quite a bit, Heavy snow most of today picked up about 6-7 inches so far still snowing pretty heavily. Definitely a strong WSW flow going right now, with the impending cold won't last long before the lake refreezes but nice to see it even for the short term.

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It definitely appears that this strong system did what I was hoping and blew up the ice quite a bit, Heavy snow most of today picked up about 6-7 inches so far still snowing pretty heavily. Definitely a strong WSW flow going right now, with the impending cold won't last long before the lake refreezes but nice to see it even for the short term.

still tho, as long as the winds stay up, we are good. lake ice won't even begin to congeal again until winds go calmer. might see some decent lake snows this weekend. I suspected this may happen :)
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snowed all night and still snowing. 8.5-9.5" so far. regained all that was lost from the mini thaw the other day as well.... 32"+ depth

FOR WHITELAKEROY:

APX FB page..."Well over a foot at Boyne highlands and Boyne mountain! And still coming down!

 

Looks great. :wub:  

 

After getting completely wiped out here, I now need to get my fix by looking at your beautiful snow pack. :D

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from what I can tell from this visible, lots of open water on N Lake MI east of Green Bay where it was totally frozen. By the snow amounts, there's def a lot of open water compared to before the big blow. Hard to tell the complete extent of the ice further east right now. Huron and even erie have water showing and they were nearly 100%

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snowed all night and still snowing. 8.5-9.5" so far. regained all that was lost from the mini thaw the other day as well.... 32"+ depth

FOR WHITELAKEROY:

APX FB page..."Well over a foot at Boyne highlands and Boyne mountain! And still coming down!"

 

Whaa whooo!!! I'll be on my way soon!!! :)  Thanks for the report!!!

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Whaa whooo!!! I'll be on my way soon!!! :)  Thanks for the report!!!

Better hurry! :P

10" and still snowing here at my house.

Co-op 5 miles from my house....

0800 AM SNOW 2 NNW EAST JORDAN 45.19N 85.15W

02/22/2014 M11.7 INCH CHARLEVOIX MI COOP OBSERVER

another East Jordan report

1025 AM HEAVY SNOW EAST JORDAN 45.16N 85.13W

02/22/2014 M12.0 INCH CHARLEVOIX MI TRAINED SPOTTER

HEAVY SNOW DURATION 24 HOURS

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First we had a blinding burst of thundersnow no model saw on Thursday...now...when all models showed temps harmlessly falling into the 20s overnight, instead temps stayed steady in the low 30s with mid-20s dews during the evening, then ROSE into the mid-30s with low-30s dews overnight, along with a few snow showers, and then slowly fell into the low 30s again as dews plummeted to the upper single digits. wtf?

 

Anyway...sun and temps above freezing may dent the snow a bit more in the sunny areas today, then that should be it. the snow has a bit of a bumpy look from all the wind, so a refresher would be nice as we take the next arctic plunge. CFS weeklies show cold straight through the next 4 weeks.

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Better hurry! :P

10" and still snowing here at my house.

Co-op 5 miles from my house....

0800 AM SNOW 2 NNW EAST JORDAN 45.19N 85.15W

02/22/2014 M11.7 INCH CHARLEVOIX MI COOP OBSERVER

another East Jordan report

1025 AM HEAVY SNOW EAST JORDAN 45.16N 85.13W

02/22/2014 M12.0 INCH CHARLEVOIX MI TRAINED SPOTTER

HEAVY SNOW DURATION 24 HOURS

 

:ski::snowman::snowing::sled::snowwindow:

 

We're set ... destination BOYNE!!!  :ski:  :ski:  :ski: 

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First we had a blinding burst of thundersnow no model saw on Thursday...now...when all models showed temps harmlessly falling into the 20s overnight, instead temps stayed steady in the low 30s with mid-20s dews during the evening, then ROSE into the mid-30s with low-30s dews overnight, along with a few snow showers, and then slowly fell into the low 30s again as dews plummeted to the upper single digits. wtf?

 

Anyway...sun and temps above freezing may dent the snow a bit more in the sunny areas today, then that should be it. the snow has a bit of a bumpy look from all the wind, so a refresher would be nice as we take the next arctic plunge. CFS weeklies show cold straight through the next 4 weeks.

I noticed some models were hinting the could would only 'ease' into the area.  I was not too surprised that is was only in the mid-20s here as opposed to the forecasted 20-22F.

 

I actually needed the sun and near 32 temps today for my driveway!!

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I noticed some models were hinting the could would only 'ease' into the area.  I was not too surprised that is was only in the mid-20s here as opposed to the forecasted 20-22F.

 

I actually needed the sun and near 32 temps today for my driveway!!

True, but I noticed even Howell rose from temps during the evening in the upper 20s to 34F overnight before falling back.

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18" with 5"-5.5" core.  Kids can walk on top of 18" however us adults do break through but not every step though.

Did you do a core or are you just estimating? Even a core sample is only the water content of that particular spot. Since the snow depth varies, Id say 3-5" water content is a good est for most of SE MI. And even on the busy roads where the wind, sun, and tons of road chemicals have thinned the snow more then neighborhoods (even a patch of grass here and there), any loss of water content in that snow is MORE than made up in the gigantic plow piles.

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Did you do a core or are you just estimating? Even a core sample is only the water content of that particular spot. Since the snow depth varies, Id say 3-5" water content is a good est for most of SE MI. And even on the busy roads where the wind, sun, and tons of road chemicals have thinned the snow more then neighborhoods (even a patch of grass here and there), any loss of water content in that snow is MORE than made up in the gigantic plow piles.

I am doing an estimation. I haven't seen my grass since mid-Dec.  The pre-Christmas ice storm compacted my snow to a 3-4" rock solid base.  Anything precip since has had NO chance of getting into the ground around here.  After this past event there are some areas in the yard with 3-5" of pure ice under the snow.  Since mid-Dec I have received a bit over 6" QPF (some has sublimated and some does drain but not too much).   I believe 5-5.5" is the average IMBY. 

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I am doing an estimation. I haven't seen my grass since mid-Dec.  The pre-Christmas ice storm compacted my snow to a 3-4" rock solid base.  Anything precip since has had NO chance of getting into the ground around here.  After this past event there are some areas in the yard with 3-5" of pure ice under the snow.  Since mid-Dec I have received a bit over 6" QPF (some has sublimated and some does drain but not too much).   I believe 5-5.5" is the average IMBY. 

Yeah you get some sublimation and runoff, even though none of it actually soaking into the ground.

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Yeah you get some sublimation and runoff, even though none of it actually soaking into the ground.

Keep in mind that where I live runoff is to where?  Most people around her have lot of land (acres).  Around by my house & garage yes the core is less than the majority of my property.  In fact the runoff from my house/garage area has made the backyard have even more.

 

It is going to be interesting to see how long it takes for everything to melt.

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I posted this in the Detroit records thread, but it is certainly worthy of the Feb discussion thread as well.

 

With 22.7" to-date, February is already the 9th snowiest February on record. The top 9 snowiest Februaries are very 21st century dominated. With so much going on this winter, I had actually forgotten about our uncanny streak of February snowfall at Detroit.

1.) 38.4" - 1908

2.) 31.7" - 2011

3.) 28.5" - 1881

4.) 28.0" - 1900

5.) 28.0" - 1926

6.) 27.0" - 2010

7.) 24.2" - 2008

8.) 23.5" - 2013

9.) 22.7" - 2014 THRU Feb 22nd

 

A look at how February snowfall has changed in recent years....

 

1995-2002...the blah years

1995- 5.7"

1996- 3.6"

1997- 5.4"

1998- T

1999- 7.8"

2000- 8.1"

2001- 2.9"

2002- 6.7"

 

2003-2006...the rollercoaster years

2003- 19.2"

2004- 0.9"

2005- 12.5"

2006- 3.8"

 

2007-2014...the insane years....

2007- 14.1"

2008- 24.2"

2009- 8.5"

2010- 27.0"

2011- 31.7"

2012- 10.2"

2013- 23.5"

2014- 22.7" THRU Feb 22nd

 

Longterm average snowfall for Feb entering the 21st century (1880-2000 avg) was just a hair over 9 inches!!!!

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