Damage In Tolland Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 No it isn't actually. Look at the GGEM and some GEFS ENS members and EC ENS. Yes it is..You don't really understand things sometimes. This is not going to a warm, rainy pattern. The idea is weaker waves riding along boundary stalled over Mid atl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 EURO all alone with this..other models keep things week and have waves scooting out south of LI..That's the idea to go with it appears No it isn't actually. Look at the GGEM and some GEFS ENS members and EC ENS. This should be good... the CT guy all over the southerly solution, the Toronto guy arguing for the amped solution. Shocking. What would really be shocking is if CT Blizz thought there was merit to the amped solution, or vise versa to Toronto Blizz. Hey they even had similar screen names before Blizz went to Damage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Maple Leaf, you are being disingenuous. Ens means of all guidance DO NOT support the op euro including your beloved cmc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Maple Leaf, you are being disingenuous. Ens means of all guidance DO NOT support the op euro including your beloved cmc. You two can just compromise and we'll go with the 6z GFS solution...right in the middle between a full cutter and an out to sea solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Maple Leaf, you are being disingenuous. Ens means of all guidance DO NOT support the op euro including your beloved cmc.Ok we"ll see in the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 if it was just one warm euro run but there have been a few now in early feb and for all the bashing im not so sure its been all that bad this winter and my gut tells me its onto something for early feb....the idea of multiple overrunning events passing south of us is very romantic but i just do not think its that simple.....im worried bc we have pretty much missed all the cute little events this year and have done mediocre with a few others and its very possible we wind up on the wrong side of the boundary and ice to me counts as the wrong side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 the only good that can come of this is that nne scores and if i cant score id rather see them score and score big bc they are desperately overdue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ace0927 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Usually a -pna/+nao is a bad combo - why would it be any different now? What mechanism would force storms underneath you/us? Hard to get miller b/redevelopers with no block, no? What am I missing here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Essentially the Euro goes full blown cutter on the overnight op run and the GFS looks a lot more favorable for a New England storm around the 5th-6th now. NNE is on the line when it comes to the GFS, but if it were to go farther south we would be in trouble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 EURO all alone with this..other models keep things week and have waves scooting out south of LI..That's the idea to go with it appears Think back to when it has tried to give us blizzards. I'd wager that its too amped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Euro op with a 50+ Rainer for all of New England 2/4...lol. Ensembles not as bad but one can rightfully presume there are several stinkers among the members as the mean brings the low right overhead in sne though it might be ok for NNE. I'd go the the ECENS. NNE will probably do well, but sne will be a mess. N of pike net gain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I also believe that was the first time Chicago had 4 consecutive winters below the longterm 20th century mean temperature since 1966-1967-1970-1971 did 5 in a row. This year is threatening to be the coldest winter in Chicago since 1978-1979. Beating '81-'82 would be a feat even. Jesus, 1977-78 was just gangbusters everywhere lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Looks like it will be a frustrating start to February, clock ticking now It will be maddening to have this snow north of me after that least near miss to the s fiasco, but I'm about to enter 2010 mode....a la "who gives a ****". Baseball season en route. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Think back to when it has tried to give us blizzards. I'd wager that its too amped. I was thinking about the times this season that the EC has been suppressed compared to other models, lol. But that's more short term. Watch we get to 3 days out and they've flipped places, with the American models over-amping it while the ECM slips east, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Great Snow 1717 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 While I'll certainly take the cold over mild, this has been a pretty dull winter due to the lack of storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I think dendrite jackpot possible this go round Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 If there was ever a season that could pull off a cutter in this pattern, this would be it. Even in the midst of this "deep winter, no mild-ups" stretch I have rain in my forecast for this afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 It will be maddening to have this snow north of me after that least near miss to the s fiasco, but I'm about to enter 2010 mode....a la "who gives a ****". Baseball season en route. Agree! Your location will help you, I'm sure another decent storm will effect you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Its certainly a possibility this one cuts given the teleconnections...however the EPO- is good at helping at least some suppression. This thing is over 200 hours out, I wouldn't even begin to start jumping to many conclusions yet on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 If there was ever a season that could pull off a cutter in this pattern, this would be it. Even in the midst of this "deep winter, no mild-ups" stretch I have rain in my forecast for this afternoon. My temperature is already above the normal high temp and it's 8am. With no blocking there are no guarantees. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. We get cold, we have warm pre-frontal penetrations into the region. We get cold again. I don't think the Euro depiction for next week is at all unreasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't believe one run of the euro with no support has led to these meltdowns today. We've never needed input from Scoiter and Will like we do now to talk sense into these weenies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 While I'll certainly take the cold over mild, this has been a pretty dull winter due to the lack of storms. Not all of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJwinter23 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Essentially the Euro goes full blown cutter on the overnight op run and the GFS looks a lot more favorable for a New England storm around the 5th-6th now. NNE is on the line when it comes to the GFS, but if it were to go farther south we would be in trouble. I think you look really good in this pattern, despite the warm euro solutions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't believe one run of the euro with no support has led to these meltdowns today. We've never needed input from Scoiter and Will like we do now to talk sense into these weenies It could go either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 My temperature is already above the normal high temp and it's 8am. With no blocking there are no guarantees. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. We get cold, we have warm pre-frontal penetrations into the region. We get cold again. I don't think the Euro depiction for next week is at all unreasonable. ^ ^ ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Not all of us. Geographically wise it has been nothing to write home about. Population wise ( some eastern sections) has been a different story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't believe one run of the euro with no support has led to these meltdowns today. We've never needed input from Scoiter and Will like we do now to talk sense into these weenies Melting down? People are talking about weather. That's what the board is here for. Again it's borderline impossible to even think about discussing a cutter or non-deep winter solution without starting a sh*tshow. It seems like most accept that it could go either way...can't we just discuss the possibilities? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 I can't believe one run of the euro with no support has led to these meltdowns today. We've never needed input from Scoiter and Will like we do now to talk sense into these weenies I agree with your thinking down the road, but you also need constant input from them and baby wipes to just swipe your fanny clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Melting down? People are talking about weather. That's what the board is here for. Again it's borderline impossible to even think about discussing a cutter or non-deep winter solution without starting a sh*tshow. It seems like most accept that it could go either way...can't we just discuss the possibilities? ^ ^ ^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 There is flags to be raised with this one potentially being warm. God forbid that's mentioned though some consider that as a meltdown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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