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February 2014 Pattern Discussion Thread


free_man

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I'll tell you one thing, 12-15" isn't happening in a swfe....period.

Never go any heavier than 6-10" when the mid levels go west.

Yeah you know your SWFE climo...it's like if that happens, don't even look at QPF, just go 6-10" followed by freezing drizzle as mid level Dryslot rips in.

It's usually the same amounts up here too, just doesn't come in with the intensity of down your way. Without closed off mid level lows going S/E, there's no wrapping moisture back in...it's all WAA thump.

Just another solution on the table. Still has time to trend back to Toronto, before then going back to a suppressed solution, :lol:

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N ever ceases to amaze me how some OCM will rip and read QPF, and go for 1-2' of snow...even at close ranges.

Jesus, why do they make poeple get the met degree??

A lot of us would know better.

I swear some still like to use 2m temps in determining ratios too. I remember that big event a couple Febs ago where we had elevated convection and OCMs were spitting out like 10-20" when upper levels were relatively cooked for good ratios. I think it ended up as a PF special and he had TSSN while I finished with TSPL.
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N ever ceases to amaze me how some OCM will rip and read QPF, and go for 1-2' of snow...even at close ranges.

Jesus, why do they make poeple get the met degree?? 

 

A lot of us would know better.

 

Yeah, some of us know from past experiences, Most of these SWFE events are typically between 7-10:1 on ratios max with there origin when i do core samples so we are not seeing 12"+ from these

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I swear some still like to use 2m temps in determining ratios too. I remember that big event a couple Febs ago where we had elevated convection and OCMs were spitting out like 10-20" when upper levels were relatively cooked for good ratios. I think it ended up as a PF special and he had TSSN while I finished with TSPL.

That FEB 2011 system probably....that was like 8-10" of heavy cake in like 6 hours with TSSN. Like 10 miles south of me had heavy TSPL like you. That was one of the more dynamic events we've had up here that I can remember for such a quick hitter.

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Yeah, some of us know from past experiences, Most of these SWFE events are typically between 7-10:1 on ratios max with there origin when i do core samples so we are not seeing 12"+ from these

Yeah in a solution like that you know it's pouring low ratio needles despite cold 850s and SFC because that snow is getting formed with like -3C at 700mb.

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That FEB 2011 system probably....that was like 8-10" of heavy cake in like 6 hours with TSSN. Like 10 miles south of me had heavy TSPL like you. That was one of the more dynamic events we've had up here that I can remember for such a quick hitter.

I remember that one well.  I was out snowmobiling about 30 miles from home when the snow started.  Made it home just before the lightening.

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Your other response was much better and what makes this fun, but lets stay on topic. Nice GFS run for CNE, BTV does not make warning criteria per GFS snow maps, hopefully by May

Haha I deleted it because I know there are a lot on here who are tired of that stuff. You like to single me out for some reason, but you must've missed all the other posts.

Anyway, yeah...hopefully we can get some warning snows, you're gonna need to get the poncho ready if that happens. In a GFS solution I think we could get there by the time all is said and done.

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Just another solution...a good one granted...but one of many in the next 6 days.

 

 

I will say that having multi-model agreement on a juicey system out of the southern states is a good thing right now.

 

That's about all you can watch for now, What a weenie run as it try's to cook up another 2 days later at the end of the run

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