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Down to the wire and models are saying wtf? 12/19-20 event


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I'm not sure if the X-mas storm is a bust or not..but it seems to have more going against it than it does for it. i was just hopeful we could get enough wrap around for a couple inches on Wednesday even west of ORH.

This is one of those yrs where it just doesn't want to snow. We have yrs where all it wants to do is snow..this is completely opposite.

In the end I'll still be here. but i am pretty dejected today

i think part of it is that we've had some pretty hefty snowfalls in the last several Decembers....especially prior to the 20th. You almost come to expect it at this point. It seemed to become the norm.

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i think part of it is that we've had some pretty hefty snowfalls in the last several Decembers....especially prior to the 20th. You almost come to expect it at this point. It seemed to become the norm.

Yeah you drive around and aside from about 3 sq miles from my house where there is still some snowcover.though not much...and all you see is brownn..no snowbanks..it's depressing..and then you have to hope a storm on X-mas night actually pans out.

We've been hearing for a month Dec would be snowy..but it's been exactly opposite.

I'm hopeful we can break into the snow events again soon.

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Yeah you drive around and aside from about 3 sq miles from my house where there is still some snowcover.though not much...and all you see is brownn..no snowbanks..it's depressing..and then you have to hope a storm on X-mas night actually pans out.

We've been hearing for a month Dec would be snowy..but it's been exactly opposite.

I'm hopeful we can break into the snow events again soon.

We can hope that winter actually continues through March. This is the opposite of the last few winters that ended in February, I try to look at it that way. I hate winter ending early....I much rather have it start late. Living near the coast, I am used to lack luster Decembers. Mike is right, in that we've been spoiled by ridiculous Decembers lately.

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We can hope that winter actually continues through March. This is the opposite of the last few winters that ended in February, I try to look at it that way. I hate winter ending early....I much rather have it start late. Living near the coast, I am used to lack luster Decembers. Mike is right, in that we've been spoiled by ridiculous Decembers lately.

I'd love for it to continue thru April..but I'd rather have alot of snow in Dec-Feb so we can enjoy deep snowcover.

march snow is great but some of the fun and enjoyment is taken away because March is spring and the snow doesn't last.

There;s just a different feeling to a Dec or jan snowstorm than there is in March.

I'd take a snowless March if we could go gangbusters Dec-Feb

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I'd love for it to continue thru April..but I'd rather have alot of snow in Dec-Feb so we can enjoy deep snowcover.

march snow is great but some of the fun and enjoyment is taken away because March is spring and the snow doesn't last.

There;s just a different feeling to a Dec or jan snowstorm than there is in March.

I'd take a snowless March if we could go gangbusters Dec-Feb

Yeah I agree with the snowpack argument, but March sux. It's usually too cold for anything outdoors..and sst's are pretty cold. I'd rather have it snow.

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We can hope that winter actually continues through March. This is the opposite of the last few winters that ended in February, I try to look at it that way. I hate winter ending early....I much rather have it start late. Living near the coast, I am used to lack luster Decembers. Mike is right, in that we've been spoiled by ridiculous Decembers lately.

When I was growing up on Eastern LI, snow in Dec was a rarity...I never expected snow before xmas. The only real exception was t-giving 1989 which was a rare treat.

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When I was growing up on Eastern LI, snow in Dec was a rarity...I never expected snow before xmas. The only real exception was t-giving 1989 which was a rare treat.

Yeah same here in Brockton/GHG. I never expected winter to gear up until after Christmas. Just part of living near the coast. Dec '95 was the first time where I got to experience a nice snowy December.

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Kevin I can't believe you're throwing in the towel after a storm (wednesday) everyone (except you) thought would not be an issue is turning out not to be an issue.

Christmas still looks ok to me. Good pattern.

I'm not throwing in the towel. Just looks like it could certainly miss us to the south is all I'm saying This is not a slam dunk

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It's much stronger with the vortmax over Lake Michigan at hr 42.

When I saw the NAM break stride I was worried we were about to lose that solution entirely. The GFS is running so fast the other way - look at 500mb h42 now vs 0z h54...I mean wow did the NAM school every other model with that s/w.

Now the key is we need a small shift SW, 50 miles and we have a good snow event.

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The other thing Scott is now that the GFS is getting this first complex of s/ws right we can probably expect a change in solutions here at 12z on the xmas day. One concern would be as it slowed this feature down that became a miss, but these changes are pretty drastic today.

Will measure in a few, light to moderate snow. Trees being weighed down a bit now.

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