snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Lol. LE band moving back in now... exeter returns looking nice and headed for the GTA. Were golden for more then 2". Yeah, LE band now even affecting the west end. Synoptic is ramping up quickly. I'll stick with my 2" call as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Classic EC, LOL. I think they need new equipment and new employees. They've been awful in the past few years and have lost alot of credibility. The only explanation I can come up with is that they only think the blowing snow will be a problem in open areas. Toronto is really the only forecast zone that doesn't have any of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 The only explanation I can come up with is that they only think the blowing snow will be a problem in open areas. Toronto is really the only forecast zone that doesn't have any of that. Was thinking its a forecaster error for a moment, since the Special Weather Statements aren't issued using a graphical interface at EC, while all the other bulletin types are. But your reasoning may be correct. EDIT: Makes sense considering all forecast zones expect Toronto have local blowing snow in their forecasts as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Yeah, LE band now even affecting the west end. Synoptic is ramping up quickly. I'll stick with my 2" call as well. Up in my area no LES, lol. Just some mood flakes. How boring! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 This is easily better then Fridays event in my region. some good snow right now and roads were quickly becoming a mess on my drive down from square one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 800m visibility in SN at YYZ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Heavy snow at my place. Dendrites falling. White out conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Up in my area no LES, lol. Just some mood flakes. How boring! This is easily better then Fridays event in my region. some good snow right now and roads were quickly becoming a mess on my drive down from square one. I was up at Markham Road and Major Mackenzie and the snow was really intense as I drove home. Briefly drove north of Major Mackenzie into a rural area and snapped a few pictures. This more than makes up for yesterday's let down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Snow has lightened up in the west end even though returns, if anything, have increased on radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted January 26, 2014 Author Share Posted January 26, 2014 Solid SN just ended, real nice scene with flakes falling almost straight down in my backyard. Real fluffy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Moderate snow continues. Have 3.1cm down so far. Thinking my 2-5cm call has a good chance of busting low with the post midnight action that should add another inch or so to what has already fallen this aft/eve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I know were all talking about todays snow and this weeks cold. But wow its not often you see the the entire deep south under Winter Storm Watches. Houston, New Orleans, Mobile AL, Pensacola FL, Savannah GA. I hope it happens for those guys down there. I jumped into their forum and they are loving it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't get it. A nice area of 25-30 dbz is moving in and Pearson is up to 4km visibility. Bizarro world. Must be a whiteout west of KW where nothing is showing up on radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't get it. A nice area of 25-30 dbz is moving in and Pearson is up to 4km visibility. Bizarro world. Must be a whiteout west of KW where nothing is showing up on radar. It's still snowing heavily here in north Scarborough. Rip city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Temperature data for downtown is now reported under the "Toronto City" station. Still at the U of T. I think they changed the location of the equipment just slightly which necessitated a new site ID. Thanks for this. I always thought that was the Island airport station which I'm guessing, in actual fact, is Toronto City Centre? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Thanks for this. I always thought that was the Island airport station which I'm guessing, in actual fact, is Toronto City Centre? correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Coming down nicely in my area. Accumulations are low compared to most of you, but I have 1.0cm thus far. Visibility is down to 1km. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 I don't get it. A nice area of 25-30 dbz is moving in and Pearson is up to 4km visibility. Bizarro world. Must be a whiteout west of KW where nothing is showing up on radar. EC radar is usually 10-20 minutes behind real time OBS unfortunately as it updates slowly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 Comma head pivot is a thing of beauty on King City radar. Don't see that happen too often around these parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 EC radar is usually 10-20 minutes behind real time OBS unfortunately as it updates slowly. I understand. Actually, at wunderground it updates no later than 2 minutes after the observed sweep. But it any case, it had nothing to do with that. SN/800m visibility was well ahead of the heavy "comma head" returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted January 26, 2014 Share Posted January 26, 2014 If you have a source for the raw EC radar data such as radar scope, the delay is less than on the EC website. However, since the radars are C band, it requires 2 - 5 minute scans to get both velocity and reflectivity data in the three-dimensions. This is one source for the larger delays. Also, radar attenuation may be a reason for the decent returns but less than impressive snows at the ground...behind the initial moderate or heavy snow, although attenuation is weakening of the radar beam...so don't quote me on that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 If you have a source for the raw EC radar data such as radar scope, the delay is less than on the EC website. However, since the radars are C band, it requires 2 - 5 minute scans to get both velocity and reflectivity data in the three-dimensions. This is one source for the larger delays. Also, radar attenuation may be a reason for the decent returns but less than impressive snows at the ground...behind the initial moderate or heavy snow, although attenuation is weakening of the radar beam...so don't quote me on that. interesting, thanks. I normally find EC's radars to reflect ground truth pretty well. I noticed that when the snow lightened, the flakes got larger. Maybe the enhanced returns were reflecting the size of the flakes rather than the intensity of the rate of fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Still snowing heavily here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Still snowing heavily here. Scarborough's in what looks like a nice lake induced convergence zone. Enjoy. How much has fallen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Kind of ironic the east end's getting it so good with LES on the 10 year anniversary of a major LES storm that essentially whiffed on the east end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Scarborough's in what looks like a nice lake induced convergence zone. Enjoy. How much has fallen? Its snowing moderately in my area. Its heavier the further East you go, however. Up to 2cm in my area now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 6.8cm down here. Could hit 10cm if the cold front turns out as modelled by the RAP. I'll take that easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 Scarborough's in what looks like a nice lake induced convergence zone. Enjoy. How much has fallen? Haven't measured yet. Might go out once it stops. Looks like about 5cm. 6.8cm down here. Could hit 10cm if the cold front overperforms. I'll take that easily. More snow is expected after midnight, right? Arctic front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 interesting, thanks. I normally find EC's radars to reflect ground truth pretty well. I noticed that when the snow lightened, the flakes got larger. Maybe the enhanced returns were reflecting the size of the flakes rather than the intensity of the rate of fall. Wish we had access to WKR's dual-pol data. EC raw radar is actually quite high resolution. Somewhere in between the resolution of Level 3 and Level 2 from the NWS. Closer to Level 2 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted January 27, 2014 Share Posted January 27, 2014 More snow is expected after midnight, right? Arctic front? Yep. Highest amounts down towards niagara, burlington and KBUF but thinking we can pick up an additional 1-2" in the city. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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