snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Downtown Toronto had constant snowcover from Dec. 6, 2000 to March 19, 2001. Other long stretches of snowcover downtown: Jan 3, 2003 to March 18, 2003 Jan 5, 2004 to March 1, 2004 Jan 15, 2007 to March 14, 2007 Feb 1, 2008 to April 2, 2008 Dec 17, 2008 to Feb 28, 2009 As for this winter, there has been snow on the ground downtown since Dec. 15th. The stretch in 2000-01 and 2004 are surprising. I can see the constant snowcover in Dec 2000 and Jan 2004, but after that in both cases, from my memory, things got either warm or dry. There must've been periods where they were just hanging on (like 1 cm). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 The stretch in 2000-01 and 2004 are surprising. I can see the constant snowcover in Dec 2000 and Jan 2004, but after that in both cases, from my memory, things got either warm or dry. There must've been periods where they were just hanging on (like 1 cm).In 2001, it got mild in January and February, but not too much. Plus, there were timely snowfalls, notably the surprise storm of 25 cm on Feb. 8th.In Feb 2004, it was generally a mild month, but there were some cold periods which helped retain the snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Welcome absolutely, positively, without a doubt NEW member! LOOL. Hopefully he aint a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Welcome aboard mississaugawx! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Waterloo-Wellington Airport reports 16cm of snow fell on the 1st, which is quite a difference from their 11cm report to EC in the storm summary, and would mean the snowfall warning verified only in Kitchener? Edit, Woodbridge reported 15cm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 5-10cm is still a nice shovelable snow. Farnell tweeted 3 hours ago that he's still liking a bigger storm. That was before the full 12z suite though. This seems to be general thought about 24 hrs. ago Now getting smaller accumulations talked of, like 2-4 cm, by media weather peeps. Even the Feb.8-9 event seems to be dwindling. We have been getting half the snow that North of St. Clair Ave.has, except for the Dec. 2013 event. Even the ice storm was more of issue north of St.Clair. Anyways, we are due for 10 cm plus system soon Doesn't look like next two snowfalls are modeled that way, thus far.for downtown T.O Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm not sure about severe hazards overall, but I do have tornado records from the 1900s, and there was a higher frequency of violent tornadoes and outbreaks between the 1950s and 1980s across Southern Ontario ending on May 31, 1985 with a downward trend in frequency and severity. The people you know how said the 80s were active are right. that decade featured several prolific tornado events including three F4s, two F3s, eighteen F2s, at least 12 deaths, and 321 injuries. The 70s also closed with two F4s in the 1979 Woodstock tornado outbreak killing 2 and injuring 150. I knew about the active tornado era that also was present in Michigan and now has one of the most polarizing stats of all time with the number of violent tornadoes during a set period of time and how there are 0 since 1977 or some other year around then. I believe they are mostly talking about how bad thunderstorms were not really tornadic events but I know that plays into their mind as well. Very loud, scary storms at night is what I heard was the biggest difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I knew about the active tornado era that also was present in Michigan and now has one of the most polarizing stats of all time with the number of violent tornadoes during a set period of time and how there are 0 since 1977 or some other year around then. I believe they are mostly talking about how bad thunderstorms were not really tornadic events but I know that plays into their mind as well. Very loud, scary storms at night is what I heard was the biggest difference. Emailed my mother hoping she might know, but she doesn't remember anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torchageddon Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Emailed my mother hoping she might know, but she doesn't remember anything Cool thanks . The 2nd part, sounds like we are in the same boat with that problem . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Looks like most forecasters are now thinking along my lines for Wednesday's event, calling for the GTA to get 5-10 cm, or 2-4". It's something at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Looks like most forecasters are now thinking along my lines for Wednesday's event, calling for the GTA to get 5-10 cm, or 2-4". It's something at least.That seems reasonable. Cold temperatures will make way for high ratios so I would say 8-14cm. Potential is their for nice deformation bands to form as well. If the track moves 50-100 miles more north, which is possible, were talking 15-20cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 That seems reasonable. Cold temperatures will make way for high ratios so I would say 8-14cm. Potential is their for nice deformation bands to form as well. If the track moves 50-100 miles more north, which is possible, were talking 15-20cm. What if it moves more south? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 What if it moves more south? Then I enjoy the 5cm of snow that falls haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 What if it moves more south? Then we got some horrible luck LOL -_- Depending how much, I will go out on a limb and say 5cm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Then we got some horrible luck LOL -_- Depending how much, I will go out on a limb and say 5cm. I'm going to cut my totals to 5-10cm, from 8-12cm. I've noticed now that the models are tracking the 850 low to our south. Lessens the chance we get into some decent mid level dynamics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 Not going to make a call until 00Z suite tonight. Then I'm going to try for an exact amount... or maybe just fall in line with the rest of the thread and go classic 2-4" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm going to cut my totals to 5-10cm, from 8-12cm. I've noticed now that the models are tracking the 850 low to our south. Lessens the chance we get into some decent mid level dynamics. Ive noticed the winds will be about 20-30km from the northeast. any chance we can get some enhancement along the western end of lake ontario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I'm going to cut my totals to 5-10cm, from 8-12cm. I've noticed now that the models are tracking the 850 low to our south. Lessens the chance we get into some decent mid level dynamics. Bold call, cant disagree! I shall wait till 0z runs tonight before making a final preliminary number. We still have some discrepancies amongst the models on the exact track. Its sad when you consider what it was modeled to be just a few days ago. Amazing how things can change. One thing is certain, luck is definitely not on our side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Ive noticed the winds will be about 20-30km from the northeast. any chance we can get some enhancement along the western end of lake ontario? Too much northerly component for LES in Mississauga. And delta ts aren't the best. Might add a few cms down Hamilton-Niagara way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Bold call, cant disagree! I shall wait till 0z runs tonight before making a final preliminary number. We still have some discrepancies amongst the models on the exact track. Its sad when you consider what it was modeled to be just a few days ago. Amazing how things can change. One thing is certain, luck is definitely not on our side. Last statement is true. See some potential with the Feb 8-9 storm even with the non-GFS models disagreeing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I wonder if we'll get some good radiational cooling tonight in the suburbs? Fresh snow cover, clear skies, light winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Too much northerly component for LES in Mississauga. And delta ts aren't the best. Might add a few cms down Hamilton-Niagara way. Ah well. Im going to say 3-6 inches fall from Niagara to Toronto. Should be a solid event, and with my current snow cover of about 7-8 inches of glacier snow Ill gladly take this event with 20-30km winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Last statement is true. See some potential with the Feb 8-9 storm even with the non-GFS models disagreeing. We shall see how that will transpire. Tonights 0z runs will be key as to what is expected for Wednesday's event. 12z runs will be the verifiers. Im hoping its in our favour. We escaped 3 storms this season that were modeled to have rain, so lets hope we can get lucky with this as well. I have a solid snowcover atm. About 35-40cm on the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We shall see how that will transpire. Tonights 0z runs will be key as to what is expected for Wednesday's event. 12z runs will be the verifiers. Im hoping its in our favour. We escaped 3 storms this season that were modeled to have rain, so lets hope we can get lucky with this as well. I have a solid snowcover atm. About 35-40cm on the ground. You must be measuring in a pile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 You must be measuring in a pile. Depth down here is more like 7-9". Doubt theres that much of a difference up in vaughan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Depth down here is more like 7-9". Doubt theres that much of a difference up in vaughan. Even Buttonville is only at 24cm/9.5". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 We shall see how that will transpire. I have a solid snowcover atm. About 35-40cm on the ground. 35-40 cm on ground now? Where is that? Here in downtown T.O maybe 5-8 cm of airy crust. Thinking 5-8 cm for next system, Tues.night- Wed. morning, here downtown T.O. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 20-25 cm on the ground in North York (8-10") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Even Buttonville is only at 24cm/9.5". Cause of you guys I went to remeasure and this time, in the park near my house, and found my snow depth is 30cm flat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 35-40 cm on ground now? Where is that? Here in downtown T.O maybe 5-8 cm of airy crust. Thinking 5-8 cm for next system, Tues.night- Wed. morning, here downtown T.O. Mount Snowstorms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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