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NOUS41 KLWX 221225
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PUBLIC INFORMATION STATEMENT
SPOTTER REPORTS
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC
725 AM EST WED JAN 22 2014

THE FOLLOWING ARE UNOFFICIAL OBSERVATIONS TAKEN DURING THE PAST 12
HOURS FOR THE STORM THAT HAS BEEN AFFECTING OUR REGION. APPRECIATION
IS EXTENDED TO HIGHWAY DEPARTMENTS...COOPERATIVE OBSERVERS...SKYWARN
SPOTTERS AND MEDIA FOR THESE REPORTS. THIS SUMMARY IS ALSO AVAILABLE
ON OUR HOME PAGE AT WEATHER.GOV/BALTIMORE

********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************

LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS
SNOWFALL OF
/INCHES/ MEASUREMENT

DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA

...DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA...
1 NNE NATIONAL ZOO 7.0 1156 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 E WASHINGTON 6.0 1030 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ENE WASHINGTON 4.6 927 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SW NATIONAL ARBORE 4.5 835 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
WASHINGTON 3.8 745 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE

MARYLAND

...ANNE ARUNDEL COUNTY...
1 N BWI AIRPORT 7.0 1147 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
ODENTON 7.0 940 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
3 E LAUREL 6.6 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
2 W SEVERN 6.3 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
2 NNE CROFTON 5.5 647 AM 1/22 NWS EMPLOYEE
SEVERNA PARK 5.0 946 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 SE DEALE 5.0 600 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
2 NW RIVA 5.0 1045 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
EDGEWATER 4.5 707 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
1 NNE OWINGS 4.0 1202 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER

...BALTIMORE COUNTY...
PHOENIX 11.0 1107 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
2 NW LONG GREEN 10.0 1030 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
JACKSONVILLE 9.5 825 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 E COCKEYSVILLE 9.3 925 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 WNW HEREFORD 9.0 1157 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 E WHITE MARSH 8.8 1249 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SW LONG GREEN 8.6 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
1 W PARKTON 8.5 930 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 E OELLA 8.0 930 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSE TOWSON 7.8 1020 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SW DUNDALK 7.7 935 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NNW ROSEDALE 7.6 1052 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 E PERRY HALL 7.5 1100 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
PARKTON 7.5 1150 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SSE TOWSON 7.5 1053 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
1 ESE GLYNDON 6.8 852 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
PARKVILLE 6.3 456 AM 1/22 PUBLIC

...BALTIMORE CITY...
1 N FELLS POINT 8.0 1135 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
PIMLICO 7.5 903 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 ESE ARLINGTON 7.5 1030 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...CALVERT COUNTY...
NORTH BEACH 5.0 740 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WSW TRACYS LANDING 4.7 943 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 WNW HUNTINGTOWN 3.8 1130 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 N SAINT LEONARD 2.3 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CARROLL COUNTY...
2 SE WESTMINSTER 10.8 934 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 NNW GAITHER 9.9 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 SW WESTMINSTER 9.5 757 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSW MANCHESTER 9.5 1130 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W WESTMINSTER 9.5 930 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
ELDERSBURG 9.0 830 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
3 SE WINFIELD 8.4 1030 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
4 NE MILLERS 7.7 1057 PM 1/21 CO-OP OBSERVER

...CHARLES COUNTY...
1 S LA PLATA 4.6 1056 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
2 ESE BRYANS ROAD 4.1 958 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
ST. CHARLES 4.0 703 AM 1/22 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 SW DENTSVILLE 3.8 1230 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER
DENTSVILLE 3.5 1129 PM 1/21 PUBLIC

...FREDERICK COUNTY...
2 NE JEFFERSON 9.5 1008 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 NNW NEW MARKET 7.0 445 AM 1/22 COCORAHS

...HARFORD COUNTY...
2 E SCARBORO 11.2 1055 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
BEL AIR 9.6 845 PM 1/21 SHERIFF OFFICE
1 NNE BEL AIR 8.5 1145 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
WHITEFORD 8.0 902 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 W BEL AIR 8.0 830 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE

...HOWARD COUNTY...
HIGHLAND 8.0 900 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
2 N COLUMBIA 8.0 1000 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SE GAITHER 8.0 1000 PM 1/21 COCORAHS
ELLICOTT CITY 7.8 828 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 WSW SAVAGE 7.3 1105 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
WOODSTOCK 7.0 1000 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 SSE SIMPSONVILLE 6.9 1100 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 NW COLUMBIA 6.8 1000 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 W ELKRIDGE 6.5 1047 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...MONTGOMERY COUNTY...
1 E MONTGOMERY VILLA 9.8 840 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
GAITHERSBURG 9.0 959 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 ENE GAITHERSBURG 8.8 800 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 ESE GERMANTOWN 8.0 801 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NW GAITHERSBURG 7.8 1130 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SSW GERMANTOWN 7.5 827 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 NNE WASHINGTON GRO 7.5 1001 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SE DAMASCUS 7.5 1015 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NNW FOUR CORNERS 7.3 1107 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SSW DAMASCUS 7.3 825 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
CLARKSBURG 7.1 1022 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
3 SSW DAMASCUS 7.0 900 PM 1/21 CO-OP OBSERVER
1 SSE COLESVILLE 7.0 1104 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ESE NORBECK 6.8 1000 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 S FOUR CORNERS 6.5 1010 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 SW ROCKVILLE 6.5 815 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
GERMANTOWN 6.2 922 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
2 SSW ROCKVILLE 6.1 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSW MONTGOMERY VIL 6.0 949 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W GARRETT PARK 6.0 1032 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NE POTOMAC 5.5 830 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ESE TAKOMA PARK 5.0 1019 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NNE FAIRLAND 4.5 1002 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PRINCE GEORGES COUNTY...
1 SSW BELTSVILLE 6.0 445 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SE OXON HILL 5.0 600 AM 1/22 CO-OP OBSERVER
1 SE LANGLEY PARK 5.0 919 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
COLLEGE PARK 4.8 823 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 SW COLLEGE PARK 4.5 1100 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ST. MARYS COUNTY...
BRETON BAY 5.8 1045 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
4 E HOLLYWOOD 4.2 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
1 WNW CUCKOLD CREEK 4.2 702 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
4 SSE LEONARDTOWN 1.3 915 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...WASHINGTON COUNTY...
3 ENE WILLIAMSPORT 5.4 600 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
WILLIAMSPORT 5.0 600 AM 1/22 CO-OP OBSERVER

VIRGINIA

...ALBEMARLE COUNTY...
2 WSW MONTICELLO 1.5 840 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSW SHADWELL 1.0 845 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...ARLINGTON COUNTY...
1 NNE BAILEYS CROSSR 6.3 925 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 S ARLINGTON 5.8 130 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
BALLSTON 5.1 1005 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
REAGAN NATIONAL AIRP 3.8 700 AM 1/22 AIRPORT

...AUGUSTA COUNTY...
CHURCHVILLE 7.0 1050 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
SWOOPE 7.0 609 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
MOUNT SOLON 6.0 446 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
STUARTS DRAFT 4.5 1050 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
CRIMORA 4.5 635 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
FISHERSVILLE 4.1 941 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
CRAIGSVILLE 4.0 601 AM 1/22 PUBLIC

...CITY OF ALEXANDRIA...
1 SE ALEXANDRIA 5.5 820 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ENE ALEXANDRIA 5.0 1000 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W ALEXANDRIA 4.1 930 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...CITY OF CHARLOTTESVILLE...
1 SSE CHARLOTTESVILL 0.8 848 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...CITY OF FALLS CHURCH...
FALLS CHURCH 6.5 1000 PM 1/21 PUBLIC

...CITY OF FREDERICKSBURG...
FREDERICKSBURG 3.5 1052 PM 1/21 COCORAHS

...CITY OF HARRISONBURG...
2 W HARRISONBURG 5.5 623 AM 1/22 BROADCAST MEDIA
HARRISONBURG 4.5 1050 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...CITY OF STAUNTON...
STAUNTON 4.0 849 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...CITY OF WAYNESBORO...
WAYNESBORO 4.5 357 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
1 W WAYNESBORO 3.5 357 AM 1/22 PUBLIC

...CLARKE COUNTY...
1 NNW BERRYVILLE 8.5 1015 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...FAIRFAX COUNTY...
1 N FRANCONIA 7.0 1020 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W FALLS CHURCH 6.5 1008 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NNE FAIRFAX STATIO 6.1 1000 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 SSE CENTREVILLE 6.0 730 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 SE CENTREVILLE 6.0 810 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
ROSE HILL 5.8 1000 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 N RESTON 5.5 1045 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 ESE CHANTILLY 5.5 900 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
1 ESE BURKE 5.3 934 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSE LINCOLNIA 5.0 800 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 S HERNDON 5.0 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
VIENNA 5.0 806 PM 1/21 CO-OP OBSERVER
2 S LINCOLNIA 4.7 930 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
3 SE CHANTILLY 4.5 915 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
NORTH SPRINGFIELD 4.5 900 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 SSE FAIRFAX STATIO 4.3 1106 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 W CENTREVILLE 3.9 930 PM 1/21 COCORAHS
WEST SPRINGFIELD 3.0 800 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...FAUQUIER COUNTY...
1 NW OPAL 4.0 946 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
4 ENE REMINGTON 2.0 515 AM 1/22 COCORAHS

...FREDERICK COUNTY...
2 E STEPHENS CITY 7.2 1030 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
STEPHENS CITY 7.0 730 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...HIGHLAND COUNTY...
1 SW MILL GAP 5.5 600 AM 1/22 CO-OP OBSERVER

...KING GEORGE COUNTY...
JERSEY 3.0 1233 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER

...LOUDOUN COUNTY...
LUCKETTS 9.0 1002 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
DULLES INTERNATIONAL 8.5 1200 AM 1/22 AIRPORT
LEESBURG 8.5 956 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 SW PURCELLVILLE 7.8 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ESE HUGHESVILLE 7.5 1001 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
BLUEMONT 7.3 800 PM 1/21 NWS EMPLOYEE
ASHBURN 7.3 1009 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
1 SW LEESBURG 7.3 1015 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
PURCELLVILLE 6.5 250 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 W ASHBURN 6.0 730 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NW STERLING PARK 6.0 958 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
MIDDLEBURG 5.2 711 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 NE OAK GROVE 5.0 755 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...MADISON COUNTY...
HAYWOOD 3.7 1247 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER

...NELSON COUNTY...
WINTERGREEN 2.0 736 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...PAGE COUNTY...
STANLEY 6.0 1050 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
1 ESE HONEYVILLE 6.0 951 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
SHENANDOAH 4.5 245 AM 1/22 PUBLIC

...PRINCE WILLIAM COUNTY...
1 N INDEPENDENT HILL 5.2 1040 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
2 ESE INDEPENDENT HI 4.5 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 ENE DUMFRIES 3.5 828 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
1 SSW WOODBRIDGE 3.5 620 AM 1/22 COCORAHS
GREENWICH 3.5 705 AM 1/22 PUBLIC

...ROCKINGHAM COUNTY...
BERGTON 6.5 736 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
1 SSE SINGERS GLEN 6.4 930 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
TIMBERVILLE 6.0 1050 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
1 SE MASSANUTTEN 5.0 946 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
FULKS RUN 5.0 517 AM 1/22 PUBLIC
3 ENE ROCKY BAR 4.0 1211 AM 1/22 TRAINED SPOTTER
BRIDGEWATER 3.0 850 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...SHENANDOAH COUNTY...
NEW MARKET 6.0 736 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

...SPOTSYLVANIA COUNTY...
4 ESE CHANCELLORSVIL 4.2 1003 PM 1/21 PUBLIC
5 SSW FREDERICKSBURG 2.5 600 AM 1/22 COCORAHS

...STAFFORD COUNTY...
HARTWOOD 4.0 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER
8 ESE FREDERICKSBURG 3.5 700 AM 1/22 COCORAHS

...WARREN COUNTY...
FRONT ROYAL 5.5 600 AM 1/22 CO-OP OBSERVER

WEST VIRGINIA

...GRANT COUNTY...
BAYARD 8.7 700 AM 1/22 CO-OP OBSERVER

...HAMPSHIRE COUNTY...
DELRAY 3.5 950 PM 1/21 PUBLIC

...HARDY COUNTY...
OLD FIELDS 7.0 736 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
1 SSE MOOREFIELD 5.0 700 AM 1/22 CO-OP OBSERVER

...MORGAN COUNTY...
1 W SMITH CROSSROADS 5.0 900 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

...PENDLETON COUNTY...
FRANKLIN 6.5 736 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA
SUGAR GROVE 5.3 736 PM 1/21 BROADCAST MEDIA

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Ok, final stats.

 

5.8" of snow

0.42" in the gauge, 0.44" from the snow core resulting a storm ratio of ~13:1

 

Early ratios were in the 12:1 range, with the later fluff in the 16 to 19:1 range.  Note that even with the nearly perfect conditions we didn't get to 20:1, so take that into future account when this comes up.

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Ok, final stats.

 

5.8" of snow

0.42" in the gauge, 0.44" from the snow core resulting a storm ratio of ~13:1

 

Early ratios were in the 12:1 range, with the later fluff in the 16 to 19:1 range.  Note that even with the nearly perfect conditions we didn't get to 20:1, so take that into future account when this comes up.

Those ratios make perfect sense, thanks for taking the core.  Getting 20:1 is very unusual for us.  That WxSynopsis guy on FB should get a snowshovel to the computer for that 30:1 BS. 

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The report closest to me would be Huntington at 3.8 inches, which seems way too low. Just eyeballing it I'd say we have more than that- maybe 5 inches or so. But its hard to tell with all the blowing around.

 

Just like Jan. 2-3, its unbearable outside this morning- wanted to build a snowman with my son but I can't stand the cold. It needs to be like 30 degrees the next day so I can stand being outside lol

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So it seems to me that when there's model unanimity of surpassing a threshold (say >4") *and* we're not on the southern edge, we get there by the end with the last hurrah. There are lots of examples of splotchy, uneven, underwhelming, "bust"-call filled beginnings that perform at the end and get most of us to at least the low side of the forecast. Just from the years since I've been on the weatherboards: 2/25/05, 2/28/05, 12/05/05, 2/11/06 (forecasters dropped the snow totals late evening), 3/01/09 (remember CWG's revision down only to have to revise back up last minute during the morning?), 2/9/10, and now this one... 

 

3/6/13 doesn't break this IMO because the Euro verbatim with its surface temps would have resulted in non-accumulating snow too. 

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6 inches of fresh powder and 0F temps.  Doesn't get better than that here.  Beautiful morning.

 

Snow has that remarkable sparkle layer on top.  Low angle morning sun makes it shine like thousands of diamonds in the snow.

 

I wonder what type of flake causes this.  These seem to fall at the end of storms.  Anyone know?

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Skeptical of that 5.3 measurement at BWI. Lots of reports of 6-7" within a few miles of the airport. 

too low by at least an inch imho

especially when you check qpf and snowfall reports at IAD and DCA

IAD had over 8" on .2" qpf and DCA had 3.8" on .18" qpf

BWI measures 5.3" on .42" qpf??? I mean, wtf?

I think they fooked up because of the wind

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This does seem a bit odd

 

3 SSE CENTREVILLE 6.0 730 PM 1/21 PUBLIC

1 SE CENTREVILLE 6.0 810 PM 1/21 TRAINED SPOTTER

1 W CENTREVILLE 3.9 930 PM 1/21 COCORAHS

 

https://nwschat.weather.gov/p.php?pid=201401220437-KLWX-NOUS41-PNSLWX

There's usually a lot of variation out here within a few miles. Aso depends if one of the local meth heads or drunks is sending in the obs.

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Lwx broad 6-10 was pretty solid.

Closest spotter to me is the norbeck dude. I'm usually right there with him and he reported 6.8. Next closest is 6.5. Washington grove is close too and that was 7. I'm going 6.75" and calling it a storm. And a great storm it was.

There is a report near Rockville that is listed as 8:15pm last night that was actually me. I gave a good lat/lon AND a town name and they still got it wrong. I reported 6.5 with a time of 8:15pm last night. Something definitely up with the LWX reporting location method. 

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Lwx broad 6-10 was pretty solid.

Closest spotter to me is the norbeck dude. I'm usually right there with him and he reported 6.8. Next closest is 6.5. Washington grove is close too and that was 7. I'm going 6.75" and calling it a storm. And a great storm it was.

The greatest thing about it is we have snow on the ground with the arctic cold. A few days back it was looking like this week would be bitter cold and dry with brown ground.

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Not surprised. There was pretty intense local banding for a few hours when temps were in the low 20s...elevation and ratios, etc. my final guess for IAD was 8-10, and I expected to do an inch or two better IMBY, but only had 6.

This storm was somewhat odd in that it did feature many pockets of moderate to even heavy snow with adjacent lulls with fine pixie dust snow. Not surprised to see the variability in reports over short distances esp south of Northern MD, DE into Philly, where there was more persistent banding in those locations.

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too low by at least an inch imho

especially when you check qpf and snowfall reports at IAD and DCA

IAD had over 8" on .2" qpf and DCA had 3.8" on .18" qpf

BWI measures 5.3" on .42" qpf??? I mean, wtf?

I think they fooked up because of the wind

I expect IAD and DCA numbers to change. Something's got to give to explain those ratios, especially for IAD.

 

I live 7 miles due south of IAD. I didn't measure, but I'd estimate I had about 5 inches, which fits in with the 4 to 6 inches reported in Centreville. I suppose IAD could have had more, but 8.5 sounds high, especially on .2 qpf.

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