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Jan 21-22 Coastal Crusher Discussion/Model Thread


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Looks like there will be 15-18 inch w/ isolated 20 inch totals for NYC, NE NJ and western LI.  I bet somewhere in NYC and LI area we see 15-20 inch spotted reports with 4-5 ft drifts.  Blizzard warnings may be put up for Nassau and Suffolk County if winds were 5-10 mph stronger.  Looks like we are about to enter a 4-6 week period of 6 inches or greater snow depths.  We are definately not going to see grass in this area until sometime in March with wire to wire cold looking locked indefinately through the rest of winter per excellent indices for quite awhile.

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Looks like there will be 15-18 inch w/ isolated 20 inch totals for NYC, NE NJ and western LI.  I bet somewhere in NYC and LI area we see 15-20 inch spotted reports with 4-5 ft drifts.  Blizzard warnings may be put up for Nassau and Suffolk County if winds were 5-10 mph stronger.  Looks like we are about to enter a 4-6 week period of 6 inches or greater snow depths.

 

At this rate, I think that 12-18" of snow could be approachable. I'll have to keep tabs on the HRRR and RUC for further information. 

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I'm following the weather around here since the mid 1960's and I cannot ever recall 2 snowstorms in the same Winter Season with a good bulk of the snow falling with temps in the mid teens or lower. We've started out in the mid teens (PDII and Jan96) while several of our big storms have seen  temps in the low to mid 20's (Feb78, Feb83, Jan96, PD II)  It seems that the big ones post PDII have been relatively 'warm' storms with temps in the upper 20's to right around freezing. So I think it is remarkable for this area (and I'm talking mainly coastal sections) to see it snow at such low temps. You may not see this again for decades but then again you never know.

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I'm following the weather around here since the mid 1960's and I cannot ever recall 2 snowstorms in the same Winter Season with a good bulk of the snow falling with temps in the mid teens or lower. We've started out in the mid teens (PDII and Jan96) while several of our big storms have seen  temps in the low to mid 20's (Feb78, Feb83, Jan96, PD II)  It seems that the big ones post PDII have been relatively 'warm' storms with temps in the upper 20's to right around freezing. So I think it is remarkable for this area (and I'm talking mainly coastal sections) to see it snow at such low temps. You may not see this again for decades but then again you never know.

We are likely not going to see this good of winter until probably 10 or 20 years.  The winters ending w/ 4 in the seasons are the best.

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I have to throw this out there but some of this model output today is starting to remind me of Feb 83. I think it's becoming rather clear that this storm is going to come in fast and furious. I don't think we are going to deal with 6-8 hours of light to moderate snow. We may all be snowing heavy by 3pm or so and it may stay that way for 12 hours for those that see the deformation band pivot back toward them. Somebody may see 20" with these crazy ratios. Feb 83 saw snow arrive at 1pm on Long Island become heavy by 2pm and never waver for the next 14 hours. I lived in Massapequa at the time and we got 23". I'm not comparing tomorrows event to 1983 synoptically but rather the way it may produce for some in this region.

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Based on the H5, the differences between the 07Z HRRR and the 06Z GFS are pretty notable. The 528 dm contour line is over the TN/NC border @HR 14 (21Z), while the 06Z GFS has the 528 dm contour line over the KY/VA border @HR 15 (21Z).

Yea good point but I like to wait untill the hrrr is sub 10 hours because it becomes more accurate

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