ayuud11 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 3 inches here, over a foot in Binghamton. I give up. Don't look at the latest RAP, looks **** in terms of snowfall totals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Amazing how every short range model was 50 miles too far north with the heavy banding. But even so, no one south of Watertown was supposed to have this little snow at this point, even on the driest models. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Sure, we've had our share of big synoptic hits in WNY. It just seems these Miller B(ust) storms more often than not fail to deliver the goods. That said, I'm not quite ready to throw in the towel yet. Maybe the wraparound snow will over-perform a bit and get most of the region up to 6"+. Yeah, but to me Miller Bs are usually better than Miller As for me at least. With Miller Bs you have WAA followed by deform band snows. With Miller As you don't get that trailing low pressure system and deform band. Also Miller As are very rare for here, as the they nearly always go to the right of the Appalachians which is far to East to get a major hit here. Miller B's usually always generate more snowfall for WNY than Miller As. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Heavy snow here now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Ithaca is truly snow hell. No lake effect, no synoptic storms of more than 6 inches, bitter cold all winter, and a university that doesn't bother clearing the snow when it does fall. God help me if I end up going to law school here(from a snow perspective, not a job/future perspective). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the minister Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hang in there Gravity Wave....I feel your pain. I'm not sure what I was expecting when I moved here from Nashville in 2009, but I was hoping for more substantial snowfall than we've gotten. And you're right about the Ithaca roads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 The good news, for those of us harvesting 2-3" out of this system, is that the Sun/Mon system has already blown up for us, so no need to spend much time on that one. Other than it might be interesting to see if the ULL generates enough SN- as it slides east to exceed this storm's total for places like ROC, SYR, ITH. Won't take much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gravity Wave Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hang in there Gravity Wave....I feel your pain. I'm not sure what I was expecting when I moved here from Nashville in 2009, but I was hoping for more substantial snowfall than we've gotten. And you're right about the Ithaca roads! Thanks. It's just sad when I've only seen one snowfall of more than 6 inches in four years here. Back home they've gotten three double digit storms over that period, and I came here thinking I was going to get dumped on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 It looks like things have improved a little for you guys with heavy snow in Buffalo and Niagara Falls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 It looks like things have improved a little for you guys with heavy snow in Buffalo and Niagara Falls. This is the 5th event this winter in which we received thundersnow, that has to be a record for WNY. A 2nd dry slot seems to be coming up, hopefully the precip shield starts to pivot west/east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Radars are screwed. It shows me in a dry slot, yet still snowing heavily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Snowing pretty hard here now, just started about 10 minutes ago. Looks like the snow is moving at a pretty good clip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Heavy snow here since about 9 AM. Eyeballing about 5" total so far. Dry slot/back edge has been edging close for a while, but snow has been hanging tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Never mind just light snow now, should pick up another 2-4 with the back end of this. 2nd dry slot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syrmax Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Light to sometimes moderate SN here...dendrites better than overnight although not spectacular, still some popcorn dendrites mixed in. Looks like a couple hrs of this near SYR, should bump totals up to 4-6" IMBY. Looking ahead, looks like next storm threat is out in fantasy land, 180+ hrs. Lake effect off of Ontario looks to be directed up towards the Tug and ART. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Heavy snow here since about 9 AM. Eyeballing about 5" total so far. Dry slot/back edge has been edging close for a while, but snow has been hanging tough. Yeah we have between 5-6 inches here so far. Should meet warning criteria across most of WNY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Just measured 5.8" outside, we really could have had easily 12"+ if everything came right with this one..Sigh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I can't recall a Miller A doing anything significant here, always root against those. About 4" here thus far with the DZ coming, can't call this a bust. I would have been pleased with 6" days ago, but I'm a pessimistic misanthrope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vortmax Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I can't recall a Miller A doing anything significant here, always root against those. About 4" here thus far with the DZ coming, can't call this a bust. I would have been pleased with 6" days ago, but I'm a pessimistic misanthrope. The cup is half full, I repeat, the cup is half full... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the minister Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yeah, can't call it a bust here either. We just didn't cash in on the heavier bands that went just below us consistenly a few miles away in Owego, NY and Sayre, PA for instance. Good system overall though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Never mind just light snow now, should pick up another 2-4 with the back end of this. 2nd dry slot Are we still getting that lake enhancement off Ontario? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 Are we still getting that lake enhancement off Ontario? Yeah the lake enhancement should start to begin anytime now across the Niagara Frontier as winds are now well aligned out of the North/Northeast. How far inland that lake enhancement makes is the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Hardly snowing here now but over the last couple hours we picked up about 4" or so. Guessing around 6" total so far. The snow over the last couple hours has been really fluffy the snow overnight was a nice sugar type snow. Time to plow now. Guess i was a little quick on saying it had let up lol. Radar is filling up again to my west and snowing heavy here again. Was gonna plow but gonna put that on hold for a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Yeah the lake enhancement should start to begin anytime now across the Niagara Frontier as winds are now well aligned out of the North/Northeast. How far inland that lake enhancement makes is the question. Snowing nicely out now, looks like we are getting some enhancement off Ontario per wivb's radar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 King City shows nice returns!!! That BUF radar outage really couldn't have come at a worse time! http://weather.gc.ca/radar/index_e.html?id=WKR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 LOW PRESSURE CENTERED WEST-CENTRAL PENNSYLVANIA THIS AFTERNOON WITHSECONDARY LOW DEEPENING OFF THE NEW JERSEY COAST. REGIONAL RADARS ARE SHOWING A WIDE BAND OF HEAVY SNOW WITH EMBEDDED MESOSCALE BANDS SHIFTING EAST OVER CENTRAL NEW YORK AT MID-AFTERNOON. THIS IS ASSOCIATED WITH A SIGNIFICANT MID-LEVEL SHORTWAVE PIVOTING ACROSS NY WITH A COMPLEX DEFORMATION ZONE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF THE LOW ACROSS PENNSYLVANIA COMBINED WITH SOME 850MB FRONTOGENETIC FORCING. HEAVY SNOW WITH VISIBILITIES DOWN TO A QUARTER MILE OR LESS AT TIMES WILL CONTINUE TO SHIFT ACROSS CENTRAL NEW YORK THROUGH THE AFTERNOON. BEHIND THIS...WATER VAPOR IMAGERY SHOWS A NARROW POCKET OF DRY AIR BEHIND THE SHORTWAVE WHICH WILL BRING A LULL IN THE HEAVY SNOW FOR LATE AFTERNOON. SEE ASSOCIATED SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENTS FOR BETTER DETAIL. FOR WESTERN NEW YORK...THIS BRIEF LULL IS BEING OBSERVED BEHIND THE SHORTWAVE. LIGHT SNOW AND IMPROVED VISIBILITIES HAVE WORKED ACROSS THE GENESEE VALLEY REGION BUT LOOKING FURTHER WEST ANOTHER BAND OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW ACROSS LAKE ERIE AND THE NIAGARA PENINSULA IS NOW PIVOTING EAST TOWARD FAR WESTERN NEW YORK ALONG A SURFACE TROUGH/COLD FRONT. THIS WILL BRING A SECOND ROUND OF MODERATE TO HEAVY SNOW TO THE NIAGARA FRONTIER AND POSSIBLY AS FAR SOUTH AS THE SOUTHERN TIER THROUGH THE MID TO LATE AFTERNOON WHICH CREATE TOUGH CONDITIONS ACROSS WNY FOR THE EVENING COMMUTE. TONIGHT...EXPECT SNOW TO DIMINISH AFTER 00Z ACROSS MUCH OF WESTERN NEW YORK BUT SOUTH OF LAKE ONTARIO NORTHERLY WINDS WILL SET THE STAGE FOR A COMBINATION OF LAKE EFFECT AND UPSLOPE SNOW INLAND ACROSS THE HIGHER TERRAIN SOUTH OF THE THRUWAY WHICH WILL HOLD ON LONGER THROUGH ABOUT MIDNIGHT. ANOTHER 2-4 INCHES OF SNOW IS EXPECTED ASSOCIATED WITH THIS LINGERING LAKE ENHANCED SNOW SOUTH OF LAKE ONTARIO OVERNIGHT. TEMPERATURES WILL FALL TONIGHT UNDER MODERATE COLD ADVECTION WITH OVERNIGHT LOWS REACHING IN THE SINGLE NUMBERS FOR MOST LOCATIONS...JUST BELOW ZERO IN JEFFERSON COUNTY AND IN THE LOW TEENS JUST SOUTH OF LAKE ONTARIO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 RAP showed that lake enhancement over Southern Niagara nicely for the past day or so. Doesn't look like it comes to WNY, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 RAP showed that lake enhancement over Southern Niagara nicely for the past day or so. Doesn't look like it comes to WNY, though. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted February 5, 2014 Author Share Posted February 5, 2014 RAP showed that lake enhancement over Southern Niagara nicely for the past day or so. Doesn't look like it comes to WNY, though. No one predicted what hit Toronto and Southern Ontario today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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