mahk_webstah Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Still looking at models..even as the storm is here.. Never ceases to amaze radar is telling the story for a lot of us n and w. but you will be a winner in this one, although forky might beat you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Good luck to you guys from up here in the cold air source! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbutts Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 NWS Boston @NWSBoston 1m Heaviest snow amounts over Cape Cod and Islands...lightest over the Monadnock Region and NW Mass. http://ow.ly/sNqZ8 BOX a bit more aggressive for neighboring NH zones vs. GYX I think GYX has the right idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I speak on reality not noise on models as the storm is already going lol. It's going to snow. A lot If you spoke of reality you'd have noticed that things aren't quite as amped at 12-14z as was modeled by the 6z GFS/NAM last night. Definitely flatter, there is not going to be as much N/S this run. I suspect the GFS will bump S&E vs the 6z this run...to match REALITY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dan11295 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I don't really understand why BOX just upped totals, If anything guidance suggesting the previous map needed to be trimmed back a bit. Not sure I see 8" from this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Looking at heights etc at 12-15z it's pretty clear the GFS at 6z was too aggressive. Euro/NAM/RGEM combo and probably whatever the GFS finally caves to at 12z FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Good luck to you guys from up here in the cold air source! Thanks for sharing that dry cool air with us. At least the warmer air southeast of here is working to modify it a bit. 9.5/-6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I need a rain/snow line. Can't wait for Feb lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I disagree with the notion that the GFS was too far north, it will likely stay as is, as given the strength of the vort max the GFS has been better with it than the NAM. Right now we have a 1003.6mb low over western NC mountains, and 1004.5mb over the VA Capes, this is where the low tracks to off the east coast, right over Norfolk, VA at around 1000mb or so. Probably stronger than modeled. This is a perfect track for Cape and Islands, I like the BOX map, seems reasonable to me, not because they forecast 14-18" for me, but because they have a more widespread area picking up 10-14" in line with the Upton NWS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Personally I blame Forky for his jinxed comment about their being no wave interference this time. In the end that little appendage that all models show now is robbing some moisture and elongating the lows enough to prevent this from being a bigger deal for many N&W. The next time the GFS is furthest NW and the Euro is plodding from SE to NW with each run...in a progressive pattern the GFS will almost always error too aggressive inside of 48 while the Euro will be light...but closer to the truth. Chalk another one up on Will's graph from yesterday inside of 48. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Looking at heights etc at 12-15z it's pretty clear the GFS at 6z was too aggressive. Euro/NAM/RGEM combo and probably whatever the GFS finally caves to at 12z FTW. Height fields already look more compressed at 15z..across New England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I need a rain/snow line. Can't wait for Feb lol Get the Hell out of my house. You're no son of mine. I HAVE NO SON. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I disagree with the notion that the GFS was too far north, it will likely stay as is, as given the strength of the vort max the GFS has been better with it than the NAM. Right now we have a 1003.6mb low over western NC mountains, and 1004.5mb over the VA Capes, this is where the low tracks to off the east coast, right over Norfolk, VA at around 1000mb or so. Probably stronger than modeled. This is a perfect track for Cape and Islands, I like the BOX map, seems reasonable to me, not because they forecast 14-18" for me, but because they have a more widespread area picking up 10-14" in line with the Upton NWS. You'll know in 5 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I disagree with the notion that the GFS was too far north, it will likely stay as is, as given the strength of the vort max the GFS has been better with it than the NAM. Right now we have a 1003.6mb low over western NC mountains, and 1004.5mb over the VA Capes, this is where the low tracks to off the east coast, right over Norfolk, VA at around 1000mb or so. Probably stronger than modeled. This is a perfect track for Cape and Islands, I like the BOX map, seems reasonable to me, not because they forecast 14-18" for me, but because they have a more widespread area picking up 10-14" in line with the Upton NWS. Doubtful. Look at the 12z upper air vs the GFS. http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/upper/upaRAOB_500.gif Too much SW to NE on the 6z for certain. This isn't a wipeout by any means, but toss the 6z. 0z Euro had a much better handle, and the 12z NAM/RGEM initialized very well. The 6h 6z 500-etc forecast of the GFS was poor. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Well that GFS sucked qpf-wise for everyone. I'll likely get more on Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 Get as far east as you can . I don't recommend swimming however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 GFS isn't too far from 12z yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Dude, the GFS isn't as bad as some are saying. I'm looking at it right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wx2fish Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 GFS isn't too far from 12z yesterday. Its pretty close to the 00z Euro qpf wise (maybe a hair more), atleast up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Dude, the GFS isn't as bad as some are saying. I'm looking at it right now. It's horrendous compared to the 6z. OE will save many of us, but it mainly misses with the CCB now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 puff, puff, pass lol I'm confident we at least see some accumulation here but you will probably be enjoying filtered sunlight. I was convinced of that a few days ago He means that folks n of Boston will want to jump into the bathtub with plugged in toaster. Only if you had any expectations of seeing modest accumulations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Everything on track . Lol at some of those comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 That's not even the same graph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeus Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Dude, the GFS isn't as bad as some are saying. I'm looking at it right now. It's the QPF bugging people, I think. Structurally... not that worrisome. I think 7-10 is reasonable in E MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Everything on track . Lol at some of those comments Close the shades you probably don't want to see the Euro at 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Personally I blame Forky for his jinxed comment about their being no wave interference this time. In the end that little appendage that all models show now is robbing some moisture and elongating the lows enough to prevent this from being a bigger deal for many N&W. The next time the GFS is furthest NW and the Euro is plodding from SE to NW with each run...in a progressive pattern the GFS will almost always error too aggressive inside of 48 while the Euro will be light...but closer to the truth. . I don't think we'll have to contend with any dry slot issues..based on the latest trends at 12z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 I was convinced of that a few days ago Only if you had any expectations of seeing modest accumulations I expect 5"+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 21, 2014 Author Share Posted January 21, 2014 GFS does some nice hang back tomorrow morning for east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Close the shades you probably don't want to see the Euro at 12z.Dude your analysis of this today has been abysmal. Who cares what Qpf says? It's never about Qpf. Just sit back and let the region enjoy a big winter storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 gfs trimmed back a bit not surprising though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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