ineedsnow Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 surprised noone has posted this some very weenieish members in there!! http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/fplumes/index.php?YMD=20140119&RT=15&PRM=Total-SNO&SID=CEF&INC=ALL&NNC=&max=&min=&mZOOM=8&mLAT=41.984674099176885&mLON=-71.78395562630271&mTYP=roadmap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 can we just get a storm that crushes the entire area? good grief That rarely ever happens... One reason why the NESDIS scale was developed; it has a high degree of factorization regarding population density. If we looks at NESDIS events (those rated...) the upper tier events are few and far between for a reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 surprised noone has posted this some very weenieish members in there!! http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/sref/fplumes/index.php?YMD=20140119&RT=15&PRM=Total-SNO&SID=CEF&INC=ALL&NNC=&max=&min=&mZOOM=8&mLAT=41.984674099176885&mLON=-71.78395562630271&mTYP=roadmap I like the one that gives BVY 38 inches or the one that gives them 31" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Wrong thread, troll. Trolling or not ... wtf is a 4 day long cutter ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Ryan says there a huge contingent of posters that enjoy when this area missed out on snow. Do folks think that's true? No doubt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Trolling or not ... wtf is a 4 day long cutter ? A messed up one, lol., Anyways, I think ACK, CHH, HYA and MVY do really well with this snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 It actually isn't even bad for SE MA...it has a good banding signal on the NW side...but this often doesn't show up in the QPF field...not until late anyway. I'd feel pretty good down in SE MA. Yes it does, but invisible to QPF Queens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I got a good feeling about this one things trending west I think a general 3 to 6 for most with more on the cape A messed up one, lol., Anyways, I think ACK, CHH, HYA and MVY do really well with this snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 SREFs are juicy fwiw (not much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The individual GEFS members looked pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 SREFs are juicy fwiw (not much) Question re this product: Has it ever shown upper tier probability for an 8" snow fall when one actually happened... Seems it's got a stalwart running low snow total bias. Never seen its probability above even medium before an event -- though admittedly, I don't normally use it. Just commenting on what is posted here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ineedsnow Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 not worth much but lets see what the rest of 0z does SREFs are juicy fwiw (not much) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Scott it seems like Cape Cod will do pretty well regarding that the tracks are favorable for snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Fwinw ... the 18z NAM trended W and deeper re Tue night. As did that NAVGEM frankenmodel.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The D10-14 cuttter should provide some region-wide rains. http://usatthebiglead.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/tom-brady-facepalm.gif?w=600 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Scott it seems like Cape Cod will do pretty well regarding that the tracks are favorable for snow. Yeah this could be a good one for the Cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Question re this product: Has it ever shown upper tier probability for an 8" snow fall when one actually happened... Seems it's got a stalwart running low snow total bias. Never seen its probability above even medium before an event -- though admittedly, I don't normally use it. Just commenting on what is posted here.To me it's sometimes the opposite...way too robust. But that's on lighter fare events I think. It's been a horrific model the past two winters though anyway...not sure what got into it. Some say it's the ARW members as they are always super-amped and wet. Several years ago they used to be a pretty good indicator of what was about to happen at like 36-60 hour lead time. But to your point, it'd be interesting what it was showing for like FEB 2013 like 24 hours out. That looked like a pretty slam dunk 12+ for a big area, wonder what it had for probabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthlight Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 21z SREF are significantly farther NW with the precipitation shield compared to 15z...just FYI. NCEP mean graphic also shows there are several members leaning left of the mean with the surface low track which appears just S of the 40/70. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yeah this could be a good one for the Cape. Windy too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 geez those srefs even have a decent prob of accum up to me. Thought I was outta this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Windy too! Yep, for sure. It's enough to get me interested too. Also, check out the deep RH even over CT. This is another fluff bomb with 20:1 or better ratios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Unfortunately those are very rare. I think January 2011 and Feb 2013 came pretty close, though they walloped SNE and eastern NNE, we still got a foot up here. In order to get the entire region, I'll be on the NW edge because anything that jackpots me likely sucks for a portion of the region due to mixing or rain or whatever. But I think those two storms were pretty close to getting most of us into the 12"+ range. Aside from that, most smaller systems just don't have the reach to get everyone in New England so there's always those looking in. Getting a storm to hit all of SNE or all of NNE is an easier task though...but this pattern is an eastern snow pattern. There's a reason why Coastalwx and Jerry have been going ballz to the wallz. Seeing Scooter be one of the most optimistic in this pattern should say something, instead of tossing caution flags all over with ifs ands or buts. Those guys know this pattern gives them the best shot out of anyone in New England. They deserve it too. if you say so, youre certainly one of the more well thought out and well spoken posters here. i guess i just have to eventually accept that i am in perhaps the worst area of sne to be a snow lover. too far west when east is favored, too far east in more wrapped up events and in swfe the warm air aloft just shoots up the valley, down sloped when there isnt a good northerly component. in the nine winters i have been in this area there have been just a handful of events where i did well and NEVER once jackpotted and there have been several busy winters. the winter of 09-10 was brutal too, look at the 27 in min here surrounded by 45 to 70 inch amts even on the cp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The D10-14 cuttter should provide some region-wide rains.well i guess cutters do provide grief to snow lovers region wide bc the "goods" are more evenly distributed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 if you say so, youre certainly one of the more well thought out and well spoken posters here. i guess i just have to eventually accept that i am in perhaps the worst area of sne to be a snow lover. too far west when east is favored, too far east in more wrapped up events and in swfe the warm air aloft just shoots up the valley, down sloped when there isnt a good northerly component. in the nine winters i have been in this area there have been just a handful of events where i did well and NEVER once jackpotted and there have been several busy winters. the winter of 09-10 was brutal too, look at the 27 in min here surrounded by 45 to 70 inch amts even on the cp. Well, you are on the valley floor at it's widest part so don't be too surprised by not jackpotting but there are worse snow locales in SNE than Springfield considering the long term average there is over 40". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yeah definitely Scott, SREF mean SLP track is just outside or east of the 40/70 benchmark at around 984mb, I think the mean SLP could actually deepen further in future runs, maybe bottom out around 978mb near the benchmark in future SREF runs. Winds could get nasty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 That trough goes negative real quick on the SREFs. Of course at this stage I don't trust them for a second..but the trend is interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 I could see areas as far west as the BOS to PVD corridor getting 3-6" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Another below ten degrees snowstorm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 3-6 Tuesday night for Boston area. Could ramp up. Cape could get big numbers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Getting interesting. At least more so than the Pats today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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