Poimen Posted January 20, 2014 Author Share Posted January 20, 2014 The GFS qpf map hints at this banding feature, too---it just doesn't drop as much qpf as the mesoscale models. Comparing the NAM and GFS (courtesy DT's Facebook page), it looks like a band will begin to organize over the northern Piedmont that strengthens a bit as it pivots toward the coastal plain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Looks like I got a WSW for 4-6". Expecting 4, wishing for 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GaffneyPeach Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sry, I didn't mean to sound harsh or pissy...but I hear this about 10 times a season. Not just here, but in interviews, social media, etc. Don't care what you call it...just gimme one! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timnc910 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Here is for the eastern part of nc 327 AM EST MON JAN 20 2014 THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR EASTERN NORTH CAROLINA. .DAY ONE, TODAY AND TONIGHT. HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME. .DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN, TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. LOW PRESSURE WILL TRACK ACROSS THE REGION TUESDAY AND DEEPEN AS IT MOVES NORTHEAST OFF THE COAST TUESDAY EVENING. SCATTERED LIGHT RAIN WILL DEVELOP TUESDAY AFTERNOON AND GRADUALLY CHANGE TO LIGHT SNOW FROM NORTH TO SOUTH LATE TUESDAY AND TUESDAY EVENING. A DUSTING TO LESS THAN 1/2 INCH OF ACCUMULATION WILL BE POSSIBLE, ESPECIALLY OVER THE NORTHERN SECTIONS. TEMPERATURES WILL DROP BELOW FREEZING TUESDAY EVENING AND IF WE DO GET LIGHT SNOW SOME SLICK SPOTS WILL BE POSSIBLE. COLD ARCTIC AIR WILL SURGE INTO THE REGION TUESDAY NIGHT WITH LOWS IN THE UPPER TEENS TO LOWER 20S INLAND BY WEDNESDAY MORNING, WIND CHILL VALUES WILL DROP INTO THE 8 TO 13 DEGREE RANGE BY WEDNESDAY MORNING. .SPOTTER INFORMATION STATEMENT... SPOTTER ACTIVATION IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Post your observations and pictures are welcome too. 64/23 and sunny on this nice spring day! I mean Janurary. WWA up across the border. Sure Raleigh will follow with the afternoon package for North-Central and Eastern Areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 18z NAM Simulated Radar for hour 30(not bad): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Little love for the Charlotte folks at hour 27: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fury88 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Yup. I got 64 and sunny today in Willow Spring NC. I can actually ride home with the top down! We'll see come tomorrow night. Not expecting much at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 61* currently. Wouldn't think there was a winter storm coming judging by how nice it is outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 The upper levels look roughly the same. Maybe a tad north by 10-20 miles but who cares. But better banding evident at 700 compare to the 12z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 18z NAM 24 hour total at hour 36(definitely better especially for areas in the NE): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WidreMann Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 More precip for N Central NC this run, but it would still put us at or under 1" of snow if all goes well (which it won't). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 More precip for N Central NC this run, but it would still put us at or under 1" of snow if all goes well (which it won't). As of right now, I would take the I" of snow and call it a victory. I like our chances but when you count of banding forming we could still end up with nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As of right now, I would take the I" of snow and call it a victory. I like our chances but when you count of banding forming we could still end up with nothing. True. If that band on that backside of the 850 low develops could be more or less depending on where it sets up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 As of right now, I would take the I" of snow and call it a victory. I like our chances but when you count of banding forming we could still end up with nothing. Don't look at the 4km NAM, only will end in disappointment after it pulls the football away tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 18z NAM does really well for you in Northern and NE NC. Solid 2-4 inch event. That said, for this side of the Apps the NAM has been astoundingly bad and has overestimated snow for every event. Still, I hope this one hits for you guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John1122 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Take it with a huge grain of salt, but not too shabby for many of you if it comes to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
franklin NCwx Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Sunny and 55 leaves unfroze from the ground and are blowing in the light breeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackerel_sky Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 64 currently, that late January sun angle doing its dirty work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 If we do manage to pull down a decent 2-4 inches it should stick around a few days with the cold coming in, my back deck gets no sun at all in the winter and snow should hang out there till at least Sunday. Kinda hard for us to get a good snow this far east though when its a setup like this, wonder what the high res is seeing being SW of the vort is usually no go for snow though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 64 currently, that late January sun angle doing its dirty work! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 RAH has 1 to 2 inches possible for my backyard: Tuesday A chance of rain between 2pm and 5pm, then rain and snow likely. Increasing clouds, with a high near 49. East wind 5 to 8 mph becoming west in the afternoon. Chance of precipitation is 60%. Little or no snow accumulation expected. Tuesday Night Rain and snow likely before 9pm, then a chance of snow between 9pm and 11pm. Cloudy during the early evening, then gradual clearing, with a low around 15. Northwest wind 10 to 16 mph, with gusts as high as 26 mph. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible. HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOKNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE RALEIGH NC406 PM EST MON JAN 20 2014NCZ007>011-021>028-038>041-043-212115-PERSON-GRANVILLE-VANCE-WARREN-HALIFAX-FORSYTH-GUILFORD-ALAMANCE-ORANGE-DURHAM-FRANKLIN-NASH-EDGECOMBE-DAVIDSON-RANDOLPH-CHATHAM-WAKE-WILSON-406 PM EST MON JAN 20 2014THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR CENTRAL NORTH CAROLINA..DAY ONE...TONIGHT.HAZARDOUS WEATHER IS NOT EXPECTED AT THIS TIME..DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...TUESDAY THROUGH SUNDAY.A STRONG COLD FRONT WILL MOVE ACROSS THE AREA TUESDAY AFTERNOON.RAIN ACCOMPANYING THE FRONT IS EXPECTED TO CHANGE TO SNOW IN THELATE AFTERNOON AND EVENING BEFORE ENDING AROUND MIDNIGHT. SOMELIGHT ACCUMULATION OF SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE...PRIMARILY NORTH OFTHE TRIANGLE TOWARD THE VIRGINIA BORDER. A WINTER WEATHERADVISORY MAY BE NEEDED FOR PORTIONS OF THE TRIANGLE...NORTHERNPIEDMONT AND NORTHERN COASTAL PLAIN LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON ANDTUESDAY NIGHT.$$VINCENT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superjames1992 Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 64 currently, that late January sun angle doing its dirty work! Late January is the new March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
downeastnc Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 MHX actually mentions accumulations which is a pretty big step for them Tuesday Night A chance of rain and snow before 7pm, then a chance of snow between 7pm and 1am. Mostly cloudy, with a low around 21. North wind 14 to 17 mph. Chance of precipitation is 40%. New snow accumulation of less than a half inch possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCsandhills Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Is Fayetteville seriously about to get shafted again? I am so snow starved it'snot even funny amwx!! I need to move back to AR or NJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 A (leopard) frog (Burns)is sunning him self on a lilly pad in my Koi pond @ 64 degrees Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FallsLake Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Here's some more from RAH: ...POTENTIAL FOR MARGINAL SNOW ACCUMULATION ACROSS PORTIONS OF THEN/NW PIEDMONT AND NORTHERN COASTAL PLAIN LATE TUESDAY AFTERNOON ANDEVENING...OVERVIEW: THE LATEST 12Z MODEL GUIDANCE IS NOW IN CLOSE AGREEMENT ONTHE SYNOPTIC PATTERN...WITH A MORE CONSOLIDATED/PHASED SHORTWAVEDIGGING SOUTHEAST THROUGH THE OH/TN VALLEY INTO THE MID-ATLANTIC ANDCAROLINAS ON TUE...RAPIDLY AMPLIFYING THE MEAN LONGWAVE TROUGH...WHICH WILL ASSUME A NEUTRAL TO NEGATIVE TILT TUE NIGHT AS THEAFOREMENTIONED SHORTWAVE ENERGY ROUNDS THE BASE AND LIFTS NE TO THEDELMARVA AND EVENTUALLY OFFSHORE BY 06-12Z WED. SFC LOW PRESSUREWILL RAPIDLY DEEPEN OVER CENTRAL NC BETWEEN 12-18Z TUE IN RESPONSETO STRONG SYNOPTIC HEIGHT FALLS /DPVA/ IN VICINITY OF ASTRENGTHENING BAROCLINIC ZONE AS THE ARCTIC FRONT APPROACHES THERELATIVELY WARM AIRMASS IN PLACE EAST OF THE APPALACHIANS. RAPIDPRESSURE FALLS (8 MB/6-HR) APPEAR LIKELY ACROSS CENTRAL NC IN THISTIME FRAME. THE ARCTIC FRONT IS EXPECTED TO SURGE SOUTHEAST THROUGHCENTRAL NC MID/LATE TUE AFTERNOON AS THE STRONGER HEIGHT FALLSAPPROACH THE MORE PRONOUNCED BAROCLINIC ZONE OFFSHORE AND THEINTENSIFYING SFC LOW RAPIDLY `JUMPS` OFFSHORE THE NC/VA COAST. RAPIDPRESSURE RISES AND STRONG COLD ADVECTION ARE EXPECTED IN THE WAKE OFTHE COLD FRONT MID/LATE TUE AFTERNOON INTO TUE NIGHT.TEMPERATURES: DIFFICULT TEMP FCST. HIGHS TUE WILL DEPEND ON CLOUDCOVER...THE ONSET OF STRONG COLD ADVECTION TUE AFT/EVE...AND EVAPCOOLING IN ASSOC/W ANY PRECIP...ESP NORTH/NNE OF THE TRIANGLE.EXPECT HIGHS RANGING FROM THE LOWER/MID 40S NW TO MID/UPPER 50S INTHE SE COASTAL PLAIN. LOWS TONIGHT WILL BE DRIVE BY VERY STRONG COLDADVECTION THROUGHOUT THE NIGHT...WITH TEMPS BOTTOMING OUT IN THELOWER/MID TEENS (FAR NW) TO UPPER TEENS /NEAR 20F/ FAR SE.PRECIPITATION CHANCES: ALL OF THE 12Z MODEL GUIDANCE HAS TRENDEDTOWARD MORE PRECIPITATION ACROSS THE MID-ATLANTIC AND PORTIONS OFCENTRAL NC DUE TO STRONG DPVA AND RAPID/PRONOUNCED COOLING ALOFT(RESULTING IN STEEP H85-H7 LAPSE RATES AND PERHAPS VERY MARGINALDESTABILIZATION BETWEEN 21-00Z) COINCIDENT WITH A BAND OF STRONGLOW/MID LEVEL FRONTOGENESIS EXPECTED TO EXTEND FROM THE DELMARVA SWINTO CENTRAL AND NORTHEAST NC. EXPECT A TIGHT GRADIENT IN PRECIPAMOUNTS OVER CENTRAL NC...RANGING FROM 0.15-0.20" NEAR THE VA BORDERIN THE NORTHERN PIEDMONT AND NE COASTAL PLAIN TO A TRACE IN PORTIONSOF THE SANDHILLS AND FAR SW PIEDMONT...WITH PERHAPS 0.07-0.12" INTHE TRIANGLE. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT SUBTLE CHANGES IN THEEVOLUTION OF THE APPROACHING SHORTWAVE /AMPLIFYING LONGWAVE TROUGH/AND RESULTING EFFECTS ON THE LOW-LEVEL FLOW AND THERMAL GRADIENTACROSS THE REGION COULD HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON PRECIP AMOUNTSAND DURATION IN CENTRAL NC. WITH THE ABOVE IN MIND...HAVE INCREASEDPRECIP CHANCES TO LIKELY (60-70%) FROM THE TRIANGLE N/NE WITH 20-50%FROM THE SC BORDER NORTH TOWARD THE HWY 64 CORRIDOR AND 50-60% INTHE TRIAD.PTYPE CONCERNS: THIS IS A NOTORIOUSLY DIFFICULT SETUP IN CENTRAL NCW/REGARD TO DETERMINING ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL AND AMOUNTS. RAIN ISEXPECTED TO BE THE DOMINANT PTYPE INITIALLY...THOUGH LIKELY BECOMINGA MIX AND CHANGING TO SNOW FROM NW-SE ACROSS CENTRAL NC BETWEEN 21-03Z AS LOW-LEVEL COLD ADVECTION RAPIDLY STRENGTHENS. GIVEN THEAFOREMENTIONED EXPECTATIONS WITH REGARD TO PRECIP AMOUNTS AND COLDADVECTION...EXPECT THE RELATIVE BEST POTENTIAL FOR LIGHT SNOWACCUMULATION (~1") IN THE FAR NORTHERN PIEDMONT AND NORTHEASTCOASTAL PLAIN TOWARD THE VA BORDER...WITH PERHAPS ISOLD ACCUMPOTENTIAL AS MUCH AS 2" IF A HEAVY SNOW BAND SETS UP AND PERSISTSFOR SEVERAL HOURS. ACCUM POTENTIAL APPEARS TO RAPIDLY DIMINISH WITHSOUTHWARD EXTENT...WITH PERHAPS A TRACE-DUSTING IN VICINITY OF THEHWY 64 CORRIDOR FROM RALEIGH WESTWARD. WITH RAIN CHANGING TOSNOW...THERE IS A CONCERN THAT SOME OR MUCH OF THE PRECIP THAT FALLSWILL OCCUR AS RAIN OR AS LIGHT NON-ACCUMULATING SNOW. IN THISSETUP...ACCUMULATION WILL VERY LIKELY DEPEND ON RATES/DURATION...ASSUMING PRECIP OF SUFFICIENT INTENSITY AND LONGEVITY IS EVENPRESENT ONCE THERMAL PROFILES BECOME SUPPORTIVE OF ALL SNOW. SNOW-LIQUID RATIOS WILL RAPIDLY BEGIN TO INCREASE AFTER 00Z AS THELOW/MID LEVELS RAPIDLY COOL...AND THIS WILL ALSO BE A COMPLICATINGFACTOR W/REGARD TO ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL. GIVEN THAT WATCH/WARNINGCRITERIA IS NOT EXPECTED TO BE MET...AND THAT SUFFICIENT UNCERTAINTYREMAINS W/REGARD TO PRECIP AMOUNTS/LOCATION AND TIMING OF THECHANGEOVER...WILL NOT ISSUE A WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY WITH THISPACKAGE...THOUGH IT IS LIKELY THAT ONE WILL BE NEEDED IN SUBSEQUENTPERIODS FROM THE TRIANGLE INTO THE NORTH/NW PIEDMONT AND NE COASTALPLAIN IF CURRENT TRENDS CONTINUE. -VINCENT -- End Changed Discussion -- && Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 Dont feel bad guys in NC. KCAE is 70 right now and will end up cold and dry for the next 180 hrs + looking at bufkit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 A (leopard) frog (Burns)is sunning him self on a lilly pad in my Koi pond @ 64 degrees We may need an Alaskan chase. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted January 20, 2014 Share Posted January 20, 2014 We may need an Alaskan chase.I've always wanted to see Alaska Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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