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January 2014 Pattern Discussion Part II


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If I may draw a sorts analogy...temps are regular season games, snowfall is the playoffs.

 

No one cares if you win 100 games, if you lose when it matters, the season is a failure.

Period.

 

Ginx likes to hold parades for having been spent more days in first place than any other team (Duquette is smiling in Baltimore right now), I want to win the final game, tip a duck boat and snap a pic of a trophy.

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I don't think anyone is crying for their momma....truth be told, the cold is entirely tolerable, however we'd just assume not have to deal with it while we go 30+ days without an appreciable snowfall.

what the hell do you call this" it's really awesome to experience frigid temp's that are

uncomfortable to walk the dogs in or go ice skating in etc, "

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If I may draw a sorts analogy...temps are regular season games, snowfall is the playoffs.

 

No one cares if you win 100 games, if you lose when it matters, the season is a failure.

Period.

 

Ginx likes to hold parades for having been spent more days in first place than any other team (Duquette is smiling in Baltimore right now), I want to win the final game, tip a duck boat and snap a pic of a trophy.

I like winter all it entails not just sitting at a window watching. Heres a sports analogy, I bat, field, run the bases, you are a DH

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Jesus Ray, you're nearly 40 inches going into the final week in January. You've had 20 in January and 5.5 in the past week. NNE has legit issues, You don't. You're a fuking marine,,,quit bellyaching.

You're losing perspective.

I'm speaking of January, not the season in its entirety.

 

I'm at about normal for January, which is disappointing considering the pattern, but nor terrible.

Others have had it worse.

 

The season has been fine, but what does my veteran status have to do with anything?

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You're losing perspective.

I'm speaking of January, not the season in its entirety.

 

I'm at about normal for January, which is disappointing considering the pattern, but nor terrible.

Others have had it worse.

 

The season has been fine, but what does my veteran status have to do with anything?

You know what I meant with the marine analogy. Marines tend to be some tough hombres and I think a less than expected January would be easier to take vs Paris Island. But we digress. The pattern gave you 3 events when it was either transitioning or cold and nada when warm. Doesn't sound so unusual or expected.

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Bad analogy, I know my stuff.....preferences are one thing.

You are sitting in the clubhouse watching game films from 97. 2001, come to bat hit a HR, go back in and watch some more film while I am out there for offense, defense, striking out making errors, hitting doubles and enjoying every second of being on the field. Your stats mean more to you than the game. We have a different perspective on winter, you want to win I just enjoy playing.
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Looking at some previous posts........A local met,I think, said it best today that when most think of this January they think COLD. Then looking at the numbers, as of right now, it is average to a tad below...with 5 days to go of course, most of them below average it seems. That mid month warm up really put a dent into it. I crunched the numbers for here in Franklin tonight so far....no, it is not as cold as January 2009, or even January 2011. Rambling here but it has been a good winter for many, great for some here in SNE. We have had the cutters, and some of us have gotten screwed, but we still have time to go and much can happen. I still have the Tobin Bridge winters of 1988-89....1990-1992....1994-1995...2001-2002.. AND  2011-12 give me flashbacks of Hell but this weenie thinks it's been nice since late November.

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You're losing perspective.

I'm speaking of January, not the season in its entirety.

 

I'm at about normal for January, which is disappointing considering the pattern, but nor terrible.

Others have had it worse.

 

The season has been fine, but what does my veteran status have to do with anything?

 

I'm with you, Ray. 

 

January has pretty much sucked out here.  I don't maintain a monthy total, but I think we just had a couple of forgettable events.  Plus, the hills out here had bare ground.  In January???  That's just pathetic.

 

Oveall, the season seems to be on a pretty average pace, maybe a little below.   But surmountable if we can get anything decent.

 

Here's a stupid question for the day.  How is the average monthy temp calculated?  Is it the average of the daily averages?

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It's been a tale of three months in one for temperature: 1st 10 days averaged -15, 2nd 10 were +13, then 21-25 has been -11 and I'd expect the rest of the month to be close to 10F below avg. As for snow, this month has a real good chance to record the least of my 16 Januarys here. (Current is 4.1", previous low was last year's was 5.7".)

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Google your positive qpf departure since 12/1/13

I thought i liked cold for the sake of bring cold. No not thrilling when u are trying to pick nites to ski that arent below zero wind chills.

And the few rainers in jan make up majority of (Qpf). Half the battle enjoying a typical sne winter is learning to be ok with climo not suited to a snow lover, it doesn't bother me enough to not admit it usually blows and to try and convince myself otherwise is somethin im not ready to do. Know ur climo , but u dont gotta love it.

That is why those that have decided to accept and embrace their climo (its the only climo u got)dont get "how some people can legit complain about anything this winter, (while being above ave in snow). I completely understand and for the most part think it is far wiser to embrace what u got from a perspective of enjoying the winter. My thing is im not relegated to living in sne for the next 10+ years of my life so im not ready to accept something that ...is not so good for a snow lover. I need 150+ to be happy and then i would do my best to just enjoy the season (even less than ave ones).

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While I'm not located in your subforum, I am somewhat close and January was pretty much a lost cause here.  We got 6" from the storm on January 3rd and not even a flake from the recent storm last Tuesday.  A couple 1-3" events counting yesterday.  All told, I would say we were just under 12" of snow for the month.

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For weeks, if not months now the op euro has wanted to use departing lp's to flip (if only briefly) the NAO to neutral/negative in the day 6/7 range only to repeatedly lose that signal closer in.  Don't have euro ens access and not sure if showed the same, also don't want to get into a debate of using op runs in the longer range,. just believe that it's an indication of something else going on that it's not sensing.  Personally think it may have to do with the non-negligible solar flux and the positive QBO favoring progressive flow and a stronger vortex. 

 

Yesterday there was a lot of talk about a west based -NAO look/SE ridge combo yielding a nearly latitudinal gradient, and already it seems like we may be going back to a traditional SE ridge +NAO.  Fortunately the AK high is so impressive that arctic hp hurtling down in the CONUS *might* be enough to keep us on the right side of the gradient if the trajectory is not straight into the great basin that is....

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You know what I meant with the marine analogy. Marines tend to be some tough hombres and I think a less than expected January would be easier to take vs Paris Island. But we digress. The pattern gave you 3 events when it was either transitioning or cold and nada when warm. Doesn't sound so unusual or expected.

 

 

You are sitting in the clubhouse watching game films from 97. 2001, come to bat hit a HR, go back in and watch some more film while I am out there for offense, defense, striking out making errors, hitting doubles and enjoying every second of being on the field. Your stats mean more to you than the game. We have a different perspective on winter, you want to win I just enjoy playing.

Well, like I mentioned before, I'm looking to weather to provide more of a distraction from a pretty unpleasant period of life for me, so I'll try to post a little less when nothing exciting is transpiring.

I've always been imby centric, but not to this degree.

 

At least baseball gets going soon.

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For weeks, if not months now the op euro has wanted to use departing lp's to flip the NAO to neutral/negative in the day 6/7 range only to repeatedly lose that signal closer in.  Don't have euro ens access and not sure if showed the same, also don't want to get into a debate of using op runs in the longer range,. just believe that it's an indication of something else going on that it's not sensing.  Personally think it may have to do with the non-negligible solar flux and the positive QBO favoring progressive flow and a stronger vortex. 

 

Yesterday there was a lot of talk about a west based -NAO look/SE ridge combo yielding a nearly latitudinal gradient, and already it seems like we may be going back to a traditional SE ridge +NAO.  Fortunately the AK high is so impressive that arctic hp hurtling down in the CONUS *might* be enough to keep us on the right side of the gradient if the trajectory is not straight into the great basin that is....

Thats more weenie mythology than anything else....they can help pump up heights in that region when there is more global support for it.

Better off keeping a vigil on the arctic stratosphere and the MJO.

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