Ian Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 He (Jason) probably should have steered clear of the editorializing. Not saying he is right or wrong, but man...what a topic to go off on. He knows what he is doing... tho I wonder if stuff like that pisses some people off to not returning. I guess it doesn't matter. I love mets but many too often reach outside their expertise. I swear if I wanted a bridge built a met would have the best idea how to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Drove through a little flizzard around 115 while on the ICC, also got to hang out with Sue Palka for a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhi Cove Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Anyone have an update on the status of ice on the potomac and the Bay? http://www.uscg.mil/d5/ICE_REPORT/ Sector Baltimore is in Ice Condition 2. The following COTP Baltimore navigational restrictions are in effect for the navigable waters listed: STEEL-HULLED ONLY VESSELS MAY TRANSIT THE C AND D CANAL. STEEL-HULLED ONLY VESSELS MAY TRANSIT THE UPPER CHESAPEAKE BAY WITHIN AN AREA BOUNDED ON THE NORTH BY A LINE DRAWN FROM SANDY POINT (LOCATED AT APPROX POSIT 39-26-51.7 N, 076-03-37.9 W) EASTWARD TO PIERCE NECK (LOCATED AT APPROX POSIT 39-26-51.2 N, 075-58-32.6 W) AND BOUNDED ON THE SOUTH BY A LINE DRAWN FROM NORTH POINT (LOCATED AT APPROX POSIT 39-11-41.9 N, 076-26-31.3 W) EASTWARD TO SWAN POINT (LOCATED AT APPROX POSIT 39-08-44.1 N, 076-16-41.4 W). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePhotoGuy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Anne Arundel- 2 hours Delayed Tomorrow. It is scary out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Anyone have an update on the status of ice on the potomac and the Bay? River near Mt. Vernon was about 60% iced up. Clear in some spots but solid along shores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Drove through a little flizzard around 115 while on the ICC, also got to hang out with Sue Palka for a bit. I know the reason for that and that is cool. Really cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
columbiawx Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 As someone who got into with CWG and, interestingly, Ellinwood on twitter about the FCPS closing (which is silly because I live in MD and don't really care), it's worth adding that my main concerns centered around the insistence that this is a matter of "toughness", a framing that belies the complexity of the situation. Risk assessments and decisions of this scale are really complicated, and what I love about CWG as a forecasting outlet is its embrace of complexity. To see Jason reduce all the factors that go into a school system's decision to open or close based on us being "wimps" is really disappointing. Also, as others have said, the comparisons to other regions are ridiculous and wrong. And the idea that we need to practice driving in snow more is probably true, but we can't control those opportunities (as much as those of us here would like). I'm (now) a good driver in the snow and I have a Subaru. It takes a lot to keep me in during bad weather, but my fears are not based on my abilities but the abilities of those around me. I was also fortunate to have had one minor accident and one could've-been-major accident in snowy conditions (the latter involving a semi-truck that I almost slid under at highway speeds) that provided me fantastic opportunities to learn about driving in the snow. This is not a realistically replicable educational experience. I hope to impart some of this wisdom with my kids as they become drivers, and as I noted to Ellinwood on twitter, I hope to use future snow days to get them to practice in safe and relatively controlled environments. But I won't be able to offer them that practice if we all toughen up and just go to school/work, weather be damned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 As we all figured and know, Fauquier is closed tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It was nice to see both elder CWG mets dump on our Super Bowl forecast today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I know the reason for that and that is cool. Really cool It was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 As someone who got into with CWG and, interestingly, Ellinwood on twitter about the FCPS closing (which is silly because I live in MD and don't really care), it's worth adding that my main concerns centered around the insistence that this is a matter of "toughness", a framing that belies the complexity of the situation. Risk assessments and decisions of this scale are really complicated, and what I love about CWG as a forecasting outlet is its embrace of complexity. To see Jason reduce all the factors that go into a school system's decision to open or close based on us being "wimps" is really disappointing. Also, as others have said, the comparisons to other regions are ridiculous and wrong. And the idea that we need to practice driving in snow more is probably true, but we can't control those opportunities (as much as those of us here would like). I'm (now) a good driver in the snow and I have a Subaru. It takes a lot to keep me in during bad weather, but my fears are not based on my abilities but the abilities of those around me. I was also fortunate to have had one minor accident and one could've-been-major accident in snowy conditions (the latter involving a semi-truck that I almost slid under at highway speeds) that provided me fantastic opportunities to learn about driving in the snow. This is not a realistically replicable educational experience. I hope to impart some of this wisdom with my kids as they become drivers, and as I noted to Ellinwood on twitter, I hope to use future snow days to get them to practice in safe and relatively controlled environments. But I won't be able to offer them that practice if we all toughen up and just go to school/work, weather be damned. I took my son up to the airport on his third driving lesson (it is a not well traveled road) and 'turned him loose' in 4-7 inches of unscrapped and untraveled snow...why? Because I knew he'd be traveling to Snowshoe as often as possible once he got that license, which he did/does. I let him put car into a slid, made him do some evasive stuff and all the other necessary driving that you need to learn in snow. 6+ years later and hundreds of trips to 'Shoe-no accidents. It should be required in drivers ed to drive in the stuff (yes I know time and weather are issues with this) before full license is issued. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 King George, Spotsy both closed tomorrow. Culpepper just announced they are closed. Staff in Spotsy to report, but have 2 hr delay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 King George, Spotsy both closed tomorrow. Culpepper just announced they are closed. Staff in Spotsy to report, but have 2 hr delay. I heard in Winchester where SNO lives schools are closed until March 15th because of the 3' he got. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I heard in Winchester where SNO lives schools are closed until March 15th because of the 3' he got. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I heard in Winchester where SNO lives schools are closed until March 15th because of the 3' he got. Unfortunately for him, Winchester is opening 2 hrs late Madison just announced closed for tomorrow... looks like another game of VA vs MD in the school systems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Jason posted in the comments section in the forecast article that today has given him a stress headache... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Jason posted in the comments section in the forecast article that today has given him a stress headache... Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 7m After today's firestorm re: these issues, leaving this one alone... RT @stones509: will schools be delayed tmw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Jason posted in the comments section in the forecast article that today has given him a stress headache...Must be the very specific Super Bowl forecast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Must be the very specific Super Bowl forecast Since he decided to wade into it, I am glad that he posted a follow-up post where he acknowledged the tone of the original post was unnecessarily aggressive. I still agree with him-- none of those photos sent in would have resulted in a day off in previous years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 St. Mary's 2 hr delay... fascinating how the MD schools are open/delayed and VA schools closed EDIT: Prince William 2 hr delay... so that stops that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've never seen such heated debate over school closings. Constant harping here and now a cwg firestorm. Maybe its just me but idgaf about it at all. I fookin loved snow days as a kid. Major fond memories. I hope my kids have as many as possibl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Anyone have an update on the status of ice on the potomac and the Bay? The Bush River (the extent I can see anyway) is completely frozen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Since he decided to wade into it, I am glad that he posted a follow-up post where he acknowledged the tone of the original post was unnecessarily aggressive. I still agree with him-- none of those photos sent in would have resulted in a day off in previous years.He's right.. I mocked Loudoun for closing the rest of the week on Twitter last night and they have a Friday workday or something. The argument and way it was presented was subpar by CWG standards IMO and not sure it's even really tangentially related enough to go there anyway. But hey if capitalweather is open to be a trolling tool I have some ideas. No doubt if I was in Jason's shoes I'd have made a number of posts I regret later even if they drive traffic etc. He's opinionated like most of us but his long term steady measured stance is what keeps everything humming.. So just a blip probably. And I suppose something may have come from it like us learning the county needs new buses or more bus heaters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've never seen such heated debate over school closings. Constant harping here and now a cwg firestorm. Maybe its just me but idgaf about it at all. I fookin loved snow days as a kid. Major fond memories. I hope my kids have as many as possibl. Earlier on the radio, the host was giving counties a hard time for keeping schools closed this long given that it was really only a moderate event. A teacher (and parent) called in and said she agreed with the decisions because not all sidewalks were cleared and the extreme cold made it unsafe given that kids had to stand on the bus stop. I'm not entirely sure how the VA counties are handling this, but here in AA Co. there was a 2hr delay today and I saw buses staging down the street prior to pick up time to ensure that kids would have a very limited wait at the stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 The Bush River (the extent I can see anyway) is completely frozen. Take some pics tomorrow and post them. I love that stuff. Brings back a round of fond childhood memories. Not sure if you are able but I'm interested in thickness too. And no, please don't walk out on it and chip a hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I've never seen such heated debate over school closings. Constant harping here and now a cwg firestorm. Maybe its just me but idgaf about it at all. I fookin loved snow days as a kid. Major fond memories. I hope my kids have as many as possibl.This is two bigger issues that we see related to weather more and more.. Aging infrastructure (including transportation) and less budget allocation. Of course figuring out the numbers and all that stuff is hard and boring. Then there is the wimp/security culture of the post 9/11 world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Can somebody check on Subtropic and make sure his dehydration isn't fatal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Wait, are we closing and delaying because of the cold or because the roads are still bad in spots? The roads I've traveled in Frederick Co are mostly snow covered, with exceptions of major highways. So probably 80% of bus roads are snow covered. Still think school should be in session. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kay Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Take some pics tomorrow and post them. I love that stuff. Brings back a round of fond childhood memories. Not sure if you are able but I'm interested in thickness too. And no, please don't walk out on it and chip a hole. I'll get some pics for ya Bob. And I'll try to measure. Never done that, kewl...tomorrow is doable. I've been in a daze - had to have my kitty put to sleep Monday evening. She was a total sweetheart and my buddy for 14 years. The storm the next day was perfect...as was the work closure...and going through it with you weenies was great distraction. So thanks y'all, especially for the laughs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 He's right.. I mocked Loudoun for closing the rest of the week on Twitter last night and they have a Friday workday or something. The argument and way it was presented was subpar by CWG standards IMO and not sure it's even really tangentially related enough to go there anyway. But hey if capitalweather is open to be a trolling tool I have some ideas. No doubt if I was in Jason's shoes I'd have made a number of posts I regret later even if they drive traffic etc. He's opinionated like most of us but his long term steady measured stance is what keeps everything humming.. So just a blip probably. And I suppose something may have come from it like us learning the county needs new buses or more bus heaters. I was surprised by the original article. I feel for the school administrators. They're on the firing line no matter what they decide to do about schools. Jason has been the steady guiding light so I suspect he'll be a little more reticent about writing a similar article in the future though I'm sure it got hits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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