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January 20-? Cold snap


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I think the American model is starting to sniff a pattern change, which probably won't actually happen until the first week of February. The GFS is just being its impatient self. Our across-the-ocean friend will probably be closer to reality for the last week of January.

 

 

I could buy that...the relaxation happens but not as fast as the GFS suggests and maybe not as drastic.

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12z GEFS again throw water on the op run. Cold through at least 288 hours...then it backs off or retrogrades a bit until the end of the run...but that's a good thing in my book. As alluded to by many for that timeframe, cold air available and increasing chances for storminess. Win win.

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My God, these latest Euro runs could rival Toronto's coldest temperature ever. I can't remember the last time the GTA saw -30C 850s..

January 15-16, 1994.

 

Yeah, -30c is really rare for Toronto. Only years it has happened have been  January 1994, January 1981, January 1976, and a couple of times early in the twentieth century. It also happened in the 1850s I believe. Point is, really rare for this to happen. I'd almost root it on just for the historical aspect of it, then cheer on a storm pattern for February.

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January 15-16, 1994.

 

Yeah, -30c is really rare for Toronto. Only years it has happened have been  January 1994, January 1981, January 1976, and a couple of times early in the twentieth century. It also happened in the 1850s I believe. Point is, really rare for this to happen. I'd almost root it on just for the historical aspect of it, then cheer on a storm pattern for February.

If you take the 12z euro verbatim, 850's get below -30c briefly next monday evening behind a 977mb clipper. Once the cold arrives, there will likely be a pretty strong gradient between areas along and away from the lake. Could end up with a situation where its ~0f along the lake and -10f to -20f from the 401 on north.

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If you take the 12z euro verbatim, 850's get below -30c briefly next monday evening behind a 977mb clipper. Once the cold arrives, there will likely be a pretty strong gradient between areas along and away from the lake. Could end up with a situation where its ~0f along the lake and -10f to -20f from the 401 on north.

Just for the history of it all, I kind of hope that happens!

 

Here's an interesting article I found on the February 1934 cold snap.

 

http://www.garymay.ca/article18.htm

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God, the local CTV weather people are awful here in Toronto, except for Anthony Farnell. It has already started. "Folks, this is the second round of our polar vortex. We have a Siberian air mass settling over Ontario. I can barely pronounce the words as I can't believe what I'm reading."

 

I don't get it. What is that quote trying to convey? Is it from Tom Brown?

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I don't get it. What is that quote trying to convey? Is it from Tom Brown?

No. It's from the lady who reads the weather at 6pm on weekends. Dana I think her name is. The point is that they're already starting to obsess over the term polar vortex and seem to find it hard to believe that Toronto could possibly get this cold...as if the world is falling apart.

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Was just checking the teleconnections. They would support a pattern shift. PNA to shift negative, NAO positive, and AO positive eventually.

I don't mind the pattern shift so long as we get this extreme cold shot first. Want to see if Toronto can make weather history (get down to -30C for the first time in 20 years, only the fourth or fifth time in 60 years).

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I'm not seeing this on any ensembles, it's probably rubbish.

 

 

That's the red flag there.  Its own ensembles don't support it let alone the Euro suite.  Few things are certain in weather but I'd be shocked if the GFS doesn't push the change back on later runs.

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No. It's from the lady who reads the weather at 6pm on weekends. Dana I think her name is. The point is that they're already starting to obsess over the term polar vortex and seem to find it hard to believe that Toronto could possibly get this cold...as if the world is falling apart.

Dana L outdoes Tom Brown and any other weather "specialists" on TO news channels. It is fun to watch though.

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Dana L outdoes Tom Brown and any other weather "specialists" on TO news channels. It is fun to watch though.

That's her name. Dana Levinson.

 

Anthony Farnell is likely the most knowledgeable local weather forecaster.

 

Yeah, I might have over reacted. I just got so tired of the polar vortex hysteria.

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Dana L outdoes Tom Brown and any other weather "specialists" on TO news channels. It is fun to watch though.

 

Toronto tv wx mets/specialists are textbook mediocrity and Tom Brown is at the bottom of the barrel. Farnell is the best of the bunch and I probably roll my eyes at least once during each of his forecasts.

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