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Late January - Early February Pattern Discussion


Bob Chill

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I think he has around 10" so far (correct me if i am wrong Mitch) and he averages around 17".

I do a lot of work in the Parkville area which is pretty close to Hamilton so I would say he has seen at least 10. I would think like you that just about everyone north of BWI will reach if not exceed their averages.

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7. I have seen 7. Snowboard measured. Better than dca, worse than those living north of 695. It is frequently too warm in the marginal setups for me where I am, and while folks in lutherville and north are snowing, I am raining or seeing hours of non-accumulating snow.

My particular micro climate shares more in common with Matt's or h20's or Ian's issues with getting snow to accumulate than it does with those north of 695 up to mt. Parkton. (Fully acknowledging I do better for snow in balance than the DC proper folks)

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I think he has around 10" so far (correct me if i am wrong Mitch) and he averages around 17".

you talking about me having 10"?

lol  dude, just check the NWS climo page

BWI has officially 7.1" this year, while at the same time around 7 miles south of double that amount

and after the last 3 yrs. if I want to whine, I'll whine thank you

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7. I have seen 7. Snowboard measured. Better than dca, worse than those living north of 695. It is frequently too warm in the marginal setups for me where I am, and while folks in lutherville and north are snowing, I am raining or seeing hours of non-accumulating snow.

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I guess as you head north on Harford Rd. and reach the beltway you probably gain between 100 and 200 feet in elevation from where you are. Areas on the west side of town at the same latitude as you have seen over 10 inches so far.

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It was aimed at me, Mitch. And I don't know why those north of 695 don't understand how much harder it is for snow to stick inside 695, down to bwi and you, and down to DC than it is for them. My seven inches at my house is consistent with bwi anyway, and I don't think I get to average snowfall without help this year. We need a legit storm.

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you talking about me having 10"?

lol  dude, just check the NWS climo page

BWI has officially 7.1" this year, while at the same time around 7 miles south of double that amount

and after the last 3 yrs. if I want to whine, I'll whine thank you

You just had bad luck with Dec. 8th event. If I remember correctly you only got fringed by the band that dropped south that rocked the stadium during the first quarter of the Ravens game.

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I guess as you head north on Harford Rd. and reach the beltway you probably gain between 100 and 200 feet in elevation from where you are. Areas on the west side of town at the same latitude as you have seen over 10 inches so far.

in fact, the Beltway at Rt. 40 on the west side is around 500' asl, which you really notice as you come down the hill toward Frederick Road and then have a view of the coastal plain (yay me) right after Frederick Road

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you talking about me having 10"?

lol  dude, just check the NWS climo page

BWI has officially 7.1" this year, while at the same time around 7 miles south of double that amount

and after the last 3 yrs. if I want to whine, I'll whine thank you

Yes i was talking about you. I know BWI has 7.1" but i thought you had more than them?. I love it when you whine i was just saying i thought you had 10" so why whine.

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It was aimed at me, Mitch. And I don't know why those north of 695 don't understand how much harder it is for snow to stick inside 695, down to bwi and you, and down to DC than it is for them. My seven inches at my house is consistent with bwi anyway, and I don't think I get to average snowfall without help this year. We need a legit storm.

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I was just teasing you because it seems like your area really gets screwed with snow.

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7. I have seen 7. Snowboard measured. Better than dca, worse than those living north of 695. It is frequently too warm in the marginal setups for me where I am, and while folks in lutherville and north are snowing, I am raining or seeing hours of non-accumulating snow.My particular micro climate shares more in common with Matt's or h20's or Ian's issues with getting snow to accumulate than it does with those north of 695 up to mt. Parkton. (Fully acknowledging I do better for snow in balance than the DC proper folks)Sent from my iPhone

You got beat up in the first snow in early December. I got 5" and you didn't see much at all. I'm at 14" for the year so nothing to complain about. Like others have said though, it would be cool to see the entire area get a warning criteria snowfall.

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Yes i was talking about you. I know BWI has 7.1" but i thought you had more than them?. I love it when you whine i was just saying i thought you had 10" so why whine.

I did a little better, but it's still for shiat and disproportionately lower (40-50% lower) than, like a said, only 7 miles N/NW of me as the crow flies

look, if we can't whine, then this place should be shut down

I just don't get the whining about the whining in here...everyone does it, you included, so what's the big deal and why do people invariably complain/whine about it? makes no sense with all the other things that can be whined over (like all these useless clippers)

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I did a little better, but it's still for shiat and disproportionately lower (40-50% lower) than, like a said, only 7 miles N/NW of me as the crow flies

look, if we can't whine, then this place should be shut down

I just don't get the whining about the whining in here...everyone does it, you included, so what's the big deal and why do people invariably complain/whine about it? makes no sense with all the other things that can be whined over (like all these useless clippers)

Lol, too much lawyer BS in that statement for me even to respond coherently  :D .

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I did a little better, but it's still for shiat and disproportionately lower (40-50% lower) than, like a said, only 7 miles N/NW of me as the crow flies

look, if we can't whine, then this place should be shut down

I just don't get the whining about the whining in here...everyone does it, you included, so what's the big deal and why do people invariably complain/whine about it? makes no sense with all the other things that can be whined over

 

I have no problem with being bummed about being screwed over from getting snow... it's perfectly natural and the vast majority of us have been there...

 

My problem is with some people drawing sweeping conclusions and saying it will never snow again or that we're like the Deep south now... it is utter nonsense whether you're talking about DCA or Dunkirk or the snowier spots... and while sometimes it's in jest, I think that whole sentiment has gotten a bit too far and it's annoying. And then there are some who complain about mixing.... ugh. Mixing is a fact of life in the mid-Atlantic, most of us don't like it but we should just take whatever frozen precip/snow we get especially if it could've been all rain at just a few degrees warmer.

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I have no problem with being bummed about being screwed over from getting snow... it's perfectly natural and the vast majority of us have been there...

 

My problem is with some people drawing sweeping conclusions and saying it will never snow again or that we're like the Deep south now... it is utter nonsense whether you're talking about DCA or Dunkirk or the snowier spots... and while sometimes it's in jest, I think that whole sentiment has gotten a bit too far and it's annoying. And then there are some who complain about mixing.... ugh. Mixing is a fact of life in the mid-Atlantic, most of us don't like it but we should just take whatever frozen precip/snow we get especially if it could've been all rain at just a few degrees warmer.

we're going off topic but

hey Fozz,,,,tough

every time I see a post from you these days, it's you complaining about this post or that post is annoying.....you're doing the same thing you're that "annoys" you about other posters......complaining!

let's just agree that 1) we all complain here, and 2) complaining about it won't help

 

back to weather, if you run a loop of the 5H map on the 0Z GFS, the southern stream vort retrogrades....yes, retrogrades back into Southern CA from the desert SW

so it's not a matter of being unable to get southern systems to phase, it's that the southern systems are getting shunted westward by the death "gyre" (Thanks LC) known as the PV

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I have no problem with being bummed about being screwed over from getting snow... it's perfectly natural and the vast majority of us have been there...

 

My problem is with some people drawing sweeping conclusions and saying it will never snow again or that we're like the Deep south now... it is utter nonsense whether you're talking about DCA or Dunkirk or the snowier spots... and while sometimes it's in jest, I think that whole sentiment has gotten a bit too far and it's annoying. And then there are some who complain about mixing.... ugh. Mixing is a fact of life in the mid-Atlantic, most of us don't like it but we should just take whatever frozen precip/snow we get especially if it could've been all rain at just a few degrees warmer.

 

more wisdom from someone who is beating climo

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I have no problem with being bummed about being screwed over from getting snow... it's perfectly natural and the vast majority of us have been there...

 

My problem is with some people drawing sweeping conclusions and saying it will never snow again or that we're like the Deep south now... it is utter nonsense whether you're talking about DCA or Dunkirk or the snowier spots... and while sometimes it's in jest, I think that whole sentiment has gotten a bit too far and it's annoying. And then there are some who complain about mixing.... ugh. Mixing is a fact of life in the mid-Atlantic, most of us don't like it but we should just take whatever frozen precip/snow we get especially if it could've been all rain at just a few degrees warmer.

Too many folks on here feel like they need to tell other folks how they should feel about their weather. 

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all I can say is, as exciting and promising as Earthlight's post was the other day, it was based on a days worth of model runs putting the pv in an ideal position.....well, 2 days later, we see how well that's worked out for us and up his way

 

it wasn't exciting to me...it was meant for 40N...a PV to our N/NW is not ideal at all...it is a miller B pattern...."we" and "us" are usually interchangeable with 40N unless it is a post specifically for our area by someone who lives here...polar vortex is almost always a bad word here unless it is displaced to our northeast

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Nice if we can squeeze 2" out area wide everyone will smile.

I've liked this one. Best track of the string and more organized. Doesn't wash out because of lp off the coast. It will be light but it starts and ends with surface below freezing everywhere for once. I'll gladly take my .08 like that than .16 with the first half wasted at 35* and slowly fallin. It might be a 12-15:1 kinda deal.

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I've liked this one. Best track of the string and more organized. Doesn't wash out because of lp off the coast. It will be light but it starts and ends with surface below freezing everywhere for once. I'll gladly take my .08 like that than .16 with the first half wasted at 35* and slowly fallin. It might be a 12-15:1 kinda deal.

I am riding the Chill train on this, i agree i will take this setup anyday over the ones we usually get here. What did the Fri/Sat storm look like?.

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