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SE snow threat 1-15/16?


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Blacksburg seems to think it comes in the afternoon also?

 

 

WEDNESDAY...PARTLY SUNNY WITH A SLIGHT CHANCE OF RAIN SHOWERS IN

THE MORNING...THEN MOSTLY CLOUDY WITH A CHANCE OF RAIN IN THE

AFTERNOON. HIGHS IN THE UPPER 40S. TEMPERATURE FALLING INTO THE

MID 40S IN THE AFTERNOON. LIGHT AND VARIABLE WINDS...BECOMING

NORTHWEST AROUND 10 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 20 MPH IN THE AFTERNOON.

CHANCE OF RAIN 50 PERCENT.

.WEDNESDAY NIGHT...MOSTLY CLOUDY. A CHANCE OF RAIN AND SNOW IN

THE EVENING...THEN A CHANCE OF SNOW AFTER MIDNIGHT. LITTLE OR NO

SNOW ACCUMULATION. COOLER WITH LOWS IN THE MID 20S. NORTH WINDS

15 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH. CHANCE OF PRECIPITATION

50 PERCENT.

 

Blacksburg seems to think it's a non event for me also.

 

This is better than what it was showing just an hour ago. It had us at 20% so that is a step ,be it small, in the right direction.

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why is it so easy for these storms to go away.  all we ask for is one of these to take hold but its always taken away.  I was hoping this storm or the Friday storm would show some promise.

Because they are not really there in the first place. The computers giveth and the computers taketh away. Nothing is real until it happens.

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From CHS NWS:

SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY/  

 

WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT...ALOFT A DEEP AND SHARP MID/UPPER  

LEVEL TROUGH DIG ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH AND TAKE ON A MORE  

NEUTRAL/NEGATIVE TILT AS IT SWINGS ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST. THIS TROUGH  

WILL HELP DRIVE A DEVELOPING AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE  

LINGERING COLD FRONT OFFSHORE WITH A SECONDARY COLD FRONT POISED TO  

CROSS THE FORECAST AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH ALOFT APPEARS TO  

BE QUITE A POTENT ONE WITH AN IMPRESSIVE VORT MAX DIGGING OUT ACROSS  

THE NORTHERN GULF COAST AND THE FLORIDA PENINSULA. WITH SOME  

CONVERGENCE NOTED ALONG THE COLD FRONT AND EXCELLENT DYNAMICS  

ALOFT...THE MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM WILL BE WHETHER OR NOT ANY  

PRECIPITATION CAN BREAK OUT DURING THE OVERNIGHT. THE MODELS  

CONTINUE TO SHOW AT LEAST SOME MINIMAL COVERAGE OF LIGHT  

PRECIPITATION WITH THE TOTALLY DRY GFS BEING THE OUTLIER. WITH  

PRETTY GOOD MODEL CONSENSUS...I HAVE ADDED AN AREA OF SLIGHT CHANCE  

POPS TO THE FORECAST MAINLY DURING THE LATE NIGHT PERIOD. THE  

QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW DOES THE ARRIVAL OF THE COLD AIR  

ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT PHASE WITH ANY PRECIPITATION THAT IS  

GENERATED. BASED ON SOUNDINGS AND SREF PROBABILITIES...IT APPEARS  

MOST LIKELY THAT ANY SHOWERS THAT DEVELOP WILL BE LIQUID. THERE IS  

STILL A CHANCE THOUGH FOR SOME FLURRIES OR A BRIEF CHANGEOVER TO  

LIGHT SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE FORECAST AREA...BUT THE  

MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT THE SUFFICIENTLY COLD NEAR SURFACE AIR  

ARRIVES AFTER ANY PRECIPITATION DISSIPATES. WEDNESDAY HIGHS WILL  

REACH THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60 IN ADVANCE OF THE COOLER AIR.  

OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL BE TRICKY. AREAS TO THE WEST WILL LIKELY SEE  

LOWS IN THE LOW 30S TO AROUND 30 WHILE FURTHER TO THE EAST MAY STAY  

ABOVE FREEZING.  

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From CHS NWS:SHORT TERM /6 AM WEDNESDAY MORNING THROUGH FRIDAY/    WEDNESDAY AND WEDNESDAY NIGHT...ALOFT A DEEP AND SHARP MID/UPPER   LEVEL TROUGH DIG ACROSS THE DEEP SOUTH AND TAKE ON A MORE   NEUTRAL/NEGATIVE TILT AS IT SWINGS ACROSS THE SOUTHEAST. THIS TROUGH   WILL HELP DRIVE A DEVELOPING AREA OF LOW PRESSURE ALONG THE   LINGERING COLD FRONT OFFSHORE WITH A SECONDARY COLD FRONT POISED TO   CROSS THE FORECAST AREA WEDNESDAY NIGHT. THE TROUGH ALOFT APPEARS TO   BE QUITE A POTENT ONE WITH AN IMPRESSIVE VORT MAX DIGGING OUT ACROSS   THE NORTHERN GULF COAST AND THE FLORIDA PENINSULA. WITH SOME   CONVERGENCE NOTED ALONG THE COLD FRONT AND EXCELLENT DYNAMICS   ALOFT...THE MAIN FORECAST PROBLEM WILL BE WHETHER OR NOT ANY   PRECIPITATION CAN BREAK OUT DURING THE OVERNIGHT. THE MODELS   CONTINUE TO SHOW AT LEAST SOME MINIMAL COVERAGE OF LIGHT   PRECIPITATION WITH THE TOTALLY DRY GFS BEING THE OUTLIER. WITH   PRETTY GOOD MODEL CONSENSUS...I HAVE ADDED AN AREA OF SLIGHT CHANCE   POPS TO THE FORECAST MAINLY DURING THE LATE NIGHT PERIOD. THE   QUESTION THEN BECOMES HOW DOES THE ARRIVAL OF THE COLD AIR   ASSOCIATED WITH THE COLD FRONT PHASE WITH ANY PRECIPITATION THAT IS   GENERATED. BASED ON SOUNDINGS AND SREF PROBABILITIES...IT APPEARS   MOST LIKELY THAT ANY SHOWERS THAT DEVELOP WILL BE LIQUID. THERE IS   STILL A CHANCE THOUGH FOR SOME FLURRIES OR A BRIEF CHANGEOVER TO   LIGHT SNOW ACROSS THE NORTHERN TIER OF THE FORECAST AREA...BUT THE   MOST LIKELY SCENARIO IS THAT THE SUFFICIENTLY COLD NEAR SURFACE AIR   ARRIVES AFTER ANY PRECIPITATION DISSIPATES. WEDNESDAY HIGHS WILL   REACH THE UPPER 50S TO AROUND 60 IN ADVANCE OF THE COOLER AIR.   OVERNIGHT LOWS WILL BE TRICKY. AREAS TO THE WEST WILL LIKELY SEE   LOWS IN THE LOW 30S TO AROUND 30 WHILE FURTHER TO THE EAST MAY STAY   ABOVE FREEZING.   

need cloud cover to move in fast tomorrow and stifle those daytime highs

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MHX AFD, low confidence which is good, low forming off Cape Fear which is good, moisture being thrown back MIA, not good...

 

.LONG TERM /WEDNESDAY NIGHT THROUGH TUESDAY/...
AS OF 345 PM TUE...ACTIVE LONG TERM PERIOD WITH VARIABLE
TEMPERATURE REGIME AND SEVERAL BOUTS OF PRECIPITATION POSSIBLE.

LOW CONFIDENCE POP AND PTYPE FCST FOR LATE WED NIGHT AND THUR
MORNING AS WILL BE HEAVILY DEPENDENT ON SFC LOW DEVELOPMENT OFF
SHORE AND AMOUNT OF COLD AIR AVAILABILITY. NEG TILTED SHORT WAVE
WILL SWING THROUGH BASE OF BROAD LONG WAVE TROUGH ACROSS THE
CENTRAL CONUS ON THUR MORNING. THIS WILL PROMOTE SFC LOW
DEVELOPMENT OVER THE GULF STREAM. HOWEVER...BULK OF ORGANIZED
PRECIP FCST TO REMAIN OFFSHORE WITH THIS SYSTEM. THE LOW IS FCST
TO DEEPEN AND MOVE NORTHEASTWARD ON THUR. LATEST MODEL SUITE IN
FAIRLY GOOD AGREEMENT ON THERMAL PROFILES ACROSS THE AREA... AND
KEEP THE MAJORITY OF ANY PRECIP LIQUID. ENOUGH COLD AIR MAY BE
MANUFACTURED WITH DYNAMIC COOLING AND COLUMN STRETCHING AS
THICKNESSES FALL THROUGH THE MORNING...SO HAVE MAINTAINED MENTION
OF RA/SN MIX AWAY FROM THE COAST. EITHER WAY...NO TRAVEL IMPACTS
EXPECTED DUE TO ANTECEDENT WARM GROUNDS AND SFC TEMPS NEAR OR
ABOVE FREEZING. ANY LINGERING PRECIP WILL END BY THUR AFTERNOON AS
LOW PULLS AWAY. HIGHS EXPECTED GENERALLY IN THE MID/UPR 40S.

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Not much new on the 0z NAM through 24, thought the axis may have been a little more towards neutral at 18hrs when looking at the trend loop on the model center, at 24hrs, less tilt compared to 18z.  Vortmax at the base is a little deeper into the central GoM, not much.  30hrs, not nearly the right turn like 18z, neutralish around the Panhandle this run.

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 I'm more interested in the 0Z GFS and Euro than the crappy 0Z NAM regardless of the NAM being in its wheelhouse. A high resolution piece of cr*p is still cr*p lol.

 

Many of us are guilty of liking whichever model has what we want at any given run.  I think that happened with the NAM for many of us today.

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The 00Z NAM still continues to show some accumulating snow for Hickory according to the following meteogram.  Most recent models are also showing some snowfall for the Friday/Saturday system for MBY.  All is not lost.  All is not good, but all is not lost.  Tomorrow night will be time to turn on the floodlights and hope to see a few flakes.

 

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KILM slowly changing tune,,,

 

All of this has pointed to the release of a dense fog advisory in
effect for the remainder of this evening...and into the Wednesday
morning hours through 9 am. This includes all counties of the ilm
County Warning Area...up to and including the immediate coast.

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Short term /6 am Wednesday morning through Thursday night/...
as of 300 PM Tuesday...will a little snow fall early Thursday or not is
the question...

A wave of low pressure will move up along cold front well off
shore in deep SW flow ahead of deepening trough digging down from
the Great Lakes toward the Gulf Coast on Wednesday. Expect sunny and dry
weather ahead of this system with temperatures up closer to 60 but this
trough will advance eastward through Wednesday pushing another
cold front into and through the Carolinas Wednesday night. A potent vorticity
maximum will ride through the Carolinas as the trough lifts toward the
northeast through early Thursday. This should help to squeeze out any
available moisture in the atmosphere with best upward vertical velocity within
the few hours surrounding daybreak. By noon on Thursday all pcp
should move off shore. Pcp water values will be right around a
half inch with moisture profiles showing best saturation in the
layer between between 1500 feet and 5k feet through Thursday morning.
Overall not much moisture to work with and borderline temperature
profiles up through the atmosphere to produce snow.

It will be tricky as to how fast the cold air moves in vs. How
much lingering moisture there is to squeeze out. Surface front brings
cooler air in after midnight at the surface but warm nose aloft
still evident through early morning with cold air advection increasing through
late morning as winds shift around to the northwest aloft...but this will
also increase drying through the afternoon...plus diurnal warming
will occur. Therefore there will be a very small window of
opportunity for any mixed pcp or snow to fall...especially along
the coast. Inland will have a slightly better chance as they will see
cooler air move in aloft before daybreak which should allow for
some light snow.

Surface wet bulb temperatures remain right around freezing and dewpoint
temperatures will be dropping through the early morning hours reaching
below freezing inland several hours before daybreak but just
around daybreak close to the coast. Therefore with evaporative
cooling taken into effect...would say likelihood of any mixed pcp
will be inland. For now will include some mixed pcp inland but
will keep rain along the coast...but would not discount some snow
mixing in before it all ends. All pcp will end by noon as subsidence
and further drying occurs on back end of system and temperatures reach
up close to 40 degrees. Clearing will occur through late Wednesday
with temperatures dropping into the low to middle 30s.
 

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