snowstormcanuck Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Yeah, we haven't had a vigorous clipper in a long time as far as I can remember. I think the last decent one was back in December 08 that dropped 3-4" in the area. The clippers may look intriguing right now, but once we get closer, its like they become a dried up orange. Not very juicy! Haha. Here's a tough one. Can you think of a clipper that dropped warning criteria snowfall on us? I know we were under a warning for the January 2005 superclipper but it didn't verify downtown or at Pearson. I don't think there's been one in the last 15 years. At least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Looks a like a decent wind maker on Thursday as that sub 980mb low moves through Canada...GFS shows shows steeping lapse rates during the afternoon taping into 45+ knots winds at 850 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Seems to me that the pattern is shifting to clippers/northern stream impulses that will mostly favor I-80 and north. If I had to choose the best places to be for this next phase, it'd be MI and ON. Don't know if there's gonna be any "super clippers", but I think those areas will cash for the next 10-14 days. Farther south here in the tropics, just table scraps...up and down temps, minor snowfalls...unless the southern stream can get involved, but that looks dubious. Next window of opportunity for us is probably end of the month/beginning of Feb...when/if the EPO/western ridging retrogrades. Just my two cents... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Seems to me that the pattern is shifting to clippers/northern stream impulses that will mostly favor I-80 and north. If I had to choose the best places to be for this next phase, it'd be MI and ON. Don't know if there's gonna be any "super clippers", but I think those areas will cash for the next 10-14 days. Farther south here in the tropics, just table scraps...up and down temps, minor snowfalls...unless the southern stream can get involved, but that looks dubious. Next window of opportunity for us is probably end of the month/beginning of Feb...when/if the EPO/western ridging retrogrades. Just my two cents... Making calls 3 weeks out...Chad's rubbing off on you. I think we're close enough to keep an eye on the clipper action. Wouldn't take much of a southward shift to bring better snows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Here's a tough one. Can you think of a clipper that dropped warning criteria snowfall on us? I know we were under a warning for the January 2005 superclipper but it didn't verify downtown or at Pearson. I don't think there's been one in the last 15 years. At least. Wasn't the February 8th storm last winter an amped up clipper? JB jokingly referred to it as the "clipper on 'roids" storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Making calls 3 weeks out...Chad's rubbing off on you. I think we're close enough to keep an eye on the clipper action. Wouldn't take much of a southward shift to bring better snows. I like my chances of verifying better than the results of his last call. But yeah, we're close enough to get a few tastes. And I did put a caveat in there if we see some southern stream involvement, we could do better. Lots of ifs ands and buts I guess. I still like to the north of here to bear "the brunt" over the next 10-14 days though. Thereafter, if everything goes to plan, we starting hunting again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 A good Saturday summary video today from Joe Bastardi of Weatherbell. Note that the video is from the free site and can therefore be posted on here. In the video he lays out where he thinks this pattern is going and why. He also lays into the people who have been saying that the latest cold outbreak was caused by global warming. Overall, a very informative video with next to no hype. He seems to be hinting that while this week won't be quite so cold due to the lack of cross polar flow, serious cold may return by the last week of January/beginning of February. http://www.weatherbell.com/saturday-summary-january-11-2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Wasn't the February 8th storm last winter an amped up clipper? JB jokingly referred to it as the "clipper on 'roids" storm. That was hybridized with the southern stream by the time it got to us. And even before, when it was purely northern stream, I don't think every northern stream system automatically qualifies as a clipper. B_I (is he even on this board anymore?) used to say that low amplitude of the H5 s/w was a key to qualifying a system as a clipper. Feb 8th, even before hybridization, was fairly amplified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 12z op Euro tries to bring down the motherlode in the day 8-9 timeframe. Would be focused a bit farther east than the last arctic outbreak though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 12z op Euro tries to bring down the motherlode in the day 8-9 timeframe. Would be focused a bit farther east than the last arctic outbreak though. Yes, the Euro looks really cold for my region around the 20th. I hope it's right. While awful with storms, it seems to have done fairly well with temperature forecasts. It certainly called the January 6-7th cold shot in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 I see potential creeping up in the next 7 to 10 days...jet needs to clean itself up in eastern asia/western Pac....also seeing the split in the western pac gives me the "meh" feeling for now....but it should regain it's "oomph" soon...just a little hungover, fat, and lazy from the holidays ... Watching to see if some aggressive eastern Asian clipper-type systems can smooth out/reinforce that jet as it enters the pac... 14010906_jetstream_norhem.gif Definitely improving now...looking much cleaner in the western Pac....batteries getting recharged... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 As Alek would say, GFS is zzzzz, especially the farther south and west you go. Showing a ridge positioning itself over the Heartland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 We were due for a few week period of benigness after such an active period. (Makes missing the quality systems that much more painful). Hopefully by the end of the month or into Feb some of us get another shot or two at something relatively decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 MJO projected to swing strongly in Phase 6 soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hmmmm....some very ugly air just to our north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 DLL - that cold air mass heads towards southern Ontario mostly and the Northeast. Back this far were more in a blended air mass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Hmmmm....some very ugly air just to our north. Since the mainstream media and, as a result, the general public, learned the term polar vortex last week, I assume this is the Canadian version, polar vourtex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BowMeHunter Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 looks marvelous for our vacation to the Dominican starting next saturday ...85 degrees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Looks like the northern Lakes/midwest to cash in a bit the coming week...and it would certainly seem likely when you look at the upside down snowfall totals so far this January. Just hoping we can get some action in the southern Lakes too. I am on vacation Jan 18-27 & it would be a shame if nothing good comes weather-wise seeing as though I had to work when we had a 8.4", 11.6", and 10.3" snowstorm this winter. #greedy. January 2014 snowfall thru 1/11 Green Bay, WI........T St Cloud, MN........0.1" Fargo, ND............0.3" Minneapolis, MN...0.3" La Crosse, WI......0.9" Duluth, MN...........1.4" Alpena, MI............4.1" S. S. Marie, MN....8.7" Marquette, MI.......9.2" **************** St Louis, MO......14.9" Lansing, MI.........15.5" Grd Rapids, MI...16.1" Fort Wayne, IN...17.5" Indianapolis, IN...18.2" Chicago, IL.........19.9" Flint, MI...............20.4"Detroit, MI...........22.5" Toledo, OH.........24.4" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 zzzzzzzzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 6z GFS really changed its tune beyond the 24th. Pacific air mixed in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 ENSO Region 3.4 is cooling. Not going to be seeing an El Nino any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Toronto's snow total for this January is embarrassingly low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Toronto's snow total for this January is embarrassingly low Don't base that just on Pearson's observations though as their snowfall measuring system is complete crap. I tend to rely on Buttonville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Don't base that just on Pearson's observations though as their snowfall measuring system is complete crap. I tend to rely on Buttonville. Buttonville's is equally as depressing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Well, it looks like my meltdown last Thursday wasn't justified as it looks like that warm GFS run was garbage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toronto blizzard Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Buttonville's is equally as depressing. It's only the 13th dude. Relax lot's of time left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toronto4 Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 I think this winter will be more about the cold than the snow for the Toronto area. It will be interesting to see if each of the three winter months (DJF) will finish below normal, temperature wise. Looking ahead, it looks like we'll nickel and dime in the snowfall department. Hopefully one of these clipper disturbances will blow up and give a decent snowfall. Pattern is looking similar to that of January 2003 (ridge/warm temps out west and cold conditions over the eastern Great Lakes and Northeast). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwohweather Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 Looks like the northern Lakes/midwest to cash in a bit the coming week...and it would certainly seem likely when you look at the upside down snowfall totals so far this January. Just hoping we can get some action in the southern Lakes too. I am on vacation Jan 18-27 & it would be a shame if nothing good comes weather-wise seeing as though I had to work when we had a 8.4", 11.6", and 10.3" snowstorm this winter. #greedy. January 2014 snowfall thru 1/11 Green Bay, WI........T St Cloud, MN........0.1" Fargo, ND............0.3" Minneapolis, MN...0.3" La Crosse, WI......0.9" Duluth, MN...........1.4" Alpena, MI............4.1" S. S. Marie, MN....8.7" Marquette, MI.......9.2" **************** St Louis, MO......14.9" Lansing, MI.........15.5" Grd Rapids, MI...16.1" Fort Wayne, IN...17.5" Indianapolis, IN...18.2" Chicago, IL.........19.9" Flint, MI...............20.4" Detroit, MI...........22.5" Toledo, OH.........24.4" It is mind boggling that Toledo is in the lead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 It's only the 13th dude. Relax lot's of time left. 6.4" at YYZ as of Jan 13th is a bit above normal. They only average 11.6" for the month. I'm not sure what he's getting at when he says "embarrassingly low". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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