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Winter 13-14' Med/Long Range Discussion Part 2


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You guys get a Family Day up there? What the!??! That is awesome haha. I think you guys have double the amount of holidays the states have, so jealous. =(

 

It's a stupid name for a holiday.

 

And as OB pointed out, we have 9 statutory holidays in Ontario. Throw in MLK Day and take out Boxing Day. I'm guessing the number is the same for you.

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As I believe Chicago WX said in January, it just wouldn't be a winter without at least one or two Ottawa Blizzard meltdowns.

 

:D

 

You're a true winter lover OB. There's really very few of us that do love all aspects of winter. And even despite a warm period approaching, there's no denying that this has been a great one all around. Alas, I don't think wintry weather is done. Some more fun in the future is a decent bet I think.

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:D

 

You're a true winter lover OB. There's really very few of us that do love all aspects of winter. And even despite a warm period approaching, there's no denying that this has been a great one all around. Alas, I don't think wintry weather is done. Some more fun in the future is a decent bet I think.

Chicago Wx, My ideal weather for the calendar year, in terms of temperatures is as follows:

 

January: Highs in the single digits with at least one sub-zero high

February: Highs in the teens

March 1-15: Highs in the 20s

March 16-31: Highs in the 30s

April 1-15: Highs in the 40s

April 16-30: Highs in the 50s

May: Highs in the 60s

June: Highs in the 70s

July: Highs in the 80s, with at least one high in the 90s, with low humidity

August: Highs in the 80s, with low humidity

September 1-15: Highs in the 70s

September 16-30: Highs in the 60s

October 1-15: Highs in the 50s

October 16-31: Highs in the 40s

November: Highs in the 30s

December: Highs in the 20s/teens, with at least one sub-zero overnight low.

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I can kiss goodbye to the coldest winter in 20 years though if those temperatures verify. As I've said time and again, I'd have preferred if the torch held off until March 1st.

 

Yes you really have... in multiple threads.

 

Honestly I don't think it's going to happen, sorry to say. We would need to keep a mean temperature of about -11C for the rest of the month to break the record, which is pretty rare in the latter half of February. This record was out of reach after the mid-Jan warm up.

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Whoever said winter ends Feb 19th is crazy.

 

EVERY ensemble model run has the torch running from next Wed through Saturday night and then a return to a trough. I'm sure its not going to be AS cold as this winter, but normal to below is currently looking likely.

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I can kiss goodbye to the coldest winter in 20 years though if those temperatures verify. As I've said time and again, I'd have preferred if the torch held off until March 1st.

 

5 Days of mid 40's is going to screw your winter?

 

If we believe the long term ensembles AND operational, Toronto gets smoked by a snowstorm on the following Sunday and replaces + adds to the current depth.

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Good! I've never wanted winter to end early more than this year. I am utterly sick of scraping the window of my car every morning and feeling cold constantly. I love loads of snow and temperatures in the uppers 20s/lowers 30s. I cannot stand brutal cold, literally no point to having temperatures get that cold EVER! Just my little rant after hitting a ridiculous -14 this morning. Totally ready for some 50s/60s and sun!

 

I hear ya. Normally I would be up to snowstorm right up until March 1st, but not this year. Too much cold came in with this persistent snow cover. - Which the snow cover length has been impressive, but I don't care if I get 2 more days of snow cover or 10 more. 

 

One of the warmer 5 day periods on the GFS for next week.

12z

 

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Yes you really have... in multiple threads.

 

Honestly I don't think it's going to happen, sorry to say. We would need to keep a mean temperature of about -11C for the rest of the month to break the record, which is pretty rare in the latter half of February. This record was out of reach after the mid-Jan warm up.

 

 

Yes you really have... in multiple threads.

 

Honestly I don't think it's going to happen, sorry to say. We would need to keep a mean temperature of about -11C for the rest of the month to break the record, which is pretty rare in the latter half of February. This record was out of reach after the mid-Jan warm up.

Wasn't expecting to break the record. Was hoping to come in as the coldest since 1993-94, not surpass. Still could happen.

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With the oncoming pattern change I expect to see a lot of Wagons West for our sub forum and increasing chances for svr.

Since that other thread has a limited shelf life, figured I'd bring this post over here. I do agree with this as well, the Euro has a storm after this one that has a severe look to it around 216hr, GFS as well. Both models have been advertising dew points over 60 all the way past the Ohio River around that range as well.

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He is downplaying it as a potential which is funny since it is like 10 days out...

 

 

I assume you were getting at the potential for a secondary low, which usually don't work out (and definitely haven't lately).

 

Well we haven't had too many cutter this winter so I'm not sure how you can make that assessment. When was the last threat of a snowy wave riding a cold front? I can't remember one (not fruition, just the threat).

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Well we haven't had too many cutter this winter so I'm not sure how you can make that assessment. When was the last threat of a snowy wave riding a cold front? I can't remember one (not fruition, just the threat).

 

Not just this winter, but over the past several winters. They've only existed in the fantasy range (like this one now) only to disappear as the time frame approaches to one reason or another. 

 

The last legit secondary low I believe we had was February 2008. As far as legit threats within a reasonable range, again your guess is as good as mine. I guess depending on your definition of a secondary low, that narrow band of anafrontal snows down in the OV back in December could count. 

 
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