TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 yes. I'm thinking -8 to -10F. That's going to be sick. Starting to drop off the high pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I guess that is what I mean. Maybe some rural areas have a 5 yr..perhaps 10 (although not sure about that)..but I don't think some valley in the middle of nowhere dictates the magnitude of the cold. Yesterday was a completely different beast.Well I still look at today/tonight as part of yesterday's airmass. 850s never really got that cold over the last 2 days...this was more of a lower-level shot to begin with. The below zero snow obs were primarily due to the shallow CAD backing in and tucking into NE MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I wonder if we're going back into another 20 year era period of cold?When we get back into more persistent winter -EPOs we probably will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I am going to chase a little of the cold tonight to beat my personal record of -15F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Well I still look at today/tonight as part of yesterday's airmass. 850s never really got that cold over the last 2 days...this was more of a lower-level shot to begin with. The below zero snow obs were primarily due to the shallow CAD backing in and tucking into NE MA. Ok fair enough..I was speaking for tonight I guess. But yesterday was incredible. Tonight should be dam cold up north...no question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Could that happen in say Ayer,MA? I'll be sure to provide a 'blow by blow' description if it does ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Down to 4.9..Tickling 0 by 7:00? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 It is a nice rad setup. Coldest 850 temps move in and then HP moves in at night when it warms aloft. Yeah Metherb..you may have a point regarding some of the radiators. It will be interesting to see how it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 8.8 / -6 , I wonder if it is possible to make a run at -10 to -15 imby .. coldest temp I've recorded on my current wx station was -12 in jan 11, followed by -11 in jan 05 .. jan 04 I recorded a -14 IIRC but not on my current console. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 When we get back into more persistent winter -EPOs we probably will. The 1980s actually had the most number of anomalous cold season "cold outbreaks" (2 sigma or more) in the CONUS as a whole than any decade back to 1930...the 1980s also had the most negative EPO of any decade during the winter months in that time frame.......-EPO FTW. Too bad the 1980s were NAO FTL. (for the snow side of things) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Even the mention of the 1980s makes me want to go find a happy place. Pegged jeans and cold bare ground. Awful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 When was the last time Norfolk had a high of 2 and full sun? Maybe it happens every year I don't know..But i would guess it's not more than once every 10 years or so Norfolk averages 2.3 days with highs <10 and 0.4 days with highs <0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Norfolk averages 2.3 days with highs <10 and 0.4 days with highs <0.When was the last time? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 Winds are still pounding here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Who is seeing temps they only see every 5-10 years? I'll let you know in the morning. Shouldn't be excessivly cold here on the hill, but I'm sure it'll be a different story in Greenfield and in valleys in other directions as well. 2.6/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Dendrite's dewpoint front dropping dews across SNE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 When was the last time?Jan 24, 2013: high of 9, low of -5. The last sub-zero high: Jan 22, 2005, high of -1, low of -14. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah yesterday was literally one in 5 or 6 decades (if not rarer)...like its the type of cold near the coast you see during snowstorms only in Labrador or Alaska. Difficult to get that type of cold down even into coastal Nova Scotia or Maine during synoptic coastals...nevermind the coast of SNE. Today is commonly what we might see during our coldest day of a non-torch winter. Portland buoy is still at 41 degrees. And yet the buoy still sat in the single digits for air temperature all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Jan 24, 2013: high of 9, low of -5. The last sub-zero high: Jan 22, 2005, high of -1, low of -14. 2004 and 2005 were the big boy Januarys for them recently....2005 they had 2 negative maximums. They had 4 in 2004. In 2005 they had 4 single digit (or colder maximums). In 2004 they had 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Who is seeing temps they only see every 5-10 years? I dug through some of the Coops. A couple went a cold as we have progged tonight in 2011 or 2009, but the majority of our Coops haven't been this cold (if it works out) since 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 2005 was like our private little weenie pocket. IIRC it was mild across a good part of the CONUS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I dug through some of the Coops. A couple went a cold as we have progged tonight in 2011 or 2009, but the majority of our Coops haven't been this cold (if it works out) since 2004. Yeah in terms of anomalies..I think this one is a bit better for you guys, but after looking as a few things..it does look like a potentially good setup for the classic radiators even down here. Sometimes a place like OWD has their best radiational cooling prior to one of those 30F-40F diurnal jumps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I understand both points. Yesterday was historical...today & tomorrow are impressive, but probably not historical. Yeah, as cold as my forecast is, it really doesn't even challenge daily records for the 4th (set in 1981 most places). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah in terms of anomalies..I think this one is a bit better for you guys, but after looking as a few things..it does look like a potentially good setup for the classic radiators even down here. Sometimes a place like OWD has their best radiational cooling prior to one of those 30F-40F diurnal jumps. I actually went above guidance because I'm a little worried that some high level moisture disrupts the best radiation, but I also have seen plenty of times where just a little WAA aloft allows things to really decouple and tank fast before rebounding towards dawn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I actually went above guidance because I'm a little worried that some high level moisture disrupts the best radiation, but I also have seen plenty of times where just a little WAA aloft allows things to really decouple and tank fast before rebounding towards dawn. Yeah I can see that at 300mb. Stupid cirrus. BTW, has anyone looked at the cold moving into the deep south next week? Holy crap. MEX has ATL at 4F!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah I can see that at 300mb. Stupid cirrus. BTW, has anyone looked at the cold moving into the deep south next week? Holy crap. MEX has ATL at 4F!! Now these are anomalies! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Now these are anomalies! No kidding. That's epic. Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Yeah I can see that at 300mb. Stupid cirrus. BTW, has anyone looked at the cold moving into the deep south next week? Holy crap. MEX has ATL at 4F!! The cold next week is more impressive as a whole than our little personal historic cold shot yesterday. A good chunk of the CONUS probably hasn't seen cold like that since 1994. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The 1980s actually had the most number of anomalous cold season "cold outbreaks" (2 sigma or more) in the CONUS as a whole than any decade back to 1930...the 1980s also had the most negative EPO of any decade during the winter months in that time frame.......-EPO FTW. Too bad the 1980s were NAO FTL. (for the snow side of things) I vaguely remember Christmas Day either 81 ort 82 with highs in the area of -5 in Southern Worc County, that was cold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 The cold next week is more impressive as a whole than our little personal historic cold shot yesterday. A good chunk of the CONUS probably hasn't seen cold like that since 1994. I know ARX was tossing around that as an analog today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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