SlantStickers Anonymous Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 PeobodFlood, those pics are mouth watering... pure weenie porn I know. something about where my house is situated makes it a breeding ground for snow drifts, digging out tends to be a biatch but it's totally worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I was walking by Angell Memorial in JP and see this photo op of drifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Man that's awesome! Congrats. The 4kft picnic tables are jealous I have no idea how you measure that though...wow. There's absolutely no snow on any roof-tops or elevated surface in those pics...forget a nice elevated snow board for measuring, lol. Any idea on liquid equiv? Any cores (I'd assume ASOS wouldn't even be close)? Ha, thanks. I'm a little nervous I may be off an inch or two, but I figured measuring every 12 hrs or so, plus visibility, but best guess in flat area., and radar gives me that total. I really lucked out. That area where you can see the tracks is still blown a little lean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Awesome pics Peabody. I'll probably get my digital out tomorrow to take clear pics like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Awesome pics Peabody. I'll probably get my digital out tomorrow to take clear pics like that. Thanks, you had some great ones as well. Looks like both our areas did pretty well! Depending on how warm the cutter is I feel like we keep a good deal of our snowcover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Thanks, you had some great ones as well. Looks like both our areas did pretty well! Depending on how warm the cutter is I feel like we keep a good deal of our snowcover. LOL, just noticed what weenie avatars we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 That map looks mostly very good to me. They seemed to have filtered out some of the higher reports. I'd put the probability at 50/50 that my 6-10 shot low here but cannot measure enough to be sure. I'm going to say 10", I just don't think this compared to other 10-15" events in terms of snow impact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 LOL, just noticed what weenie avatars we have. Lmao, top quality weenie shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 That map looks mostly very good to me. They seemed to have filtered out some of the higher reports. I'd put the probability at 50/50 that my 6-10 shot low here but cannot measure enough to be sure. I'm going to say 10", I just don't think this compared to other 10-15" events in terms of snow impact. All in all I think the models handled this fairly well. They were pegging two areas of higher QPF, the WAA band across southern VT and NH and the ocean effect along eastern MA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Terrible measuring spot. Yeah I'm sure Matt will confirm we had 8-9" not 12" later. Yes. yeah, that 12" report is too high imo .. I wonder who that is haha .. one of my sisters best friends younger brother is obsessed with the weather but I don't think its him. ~8.5" - 9" seems reasonable for a total .. I could see up to 9.5" if you were consistent with 6 hr measurements / board clearing .. shoveling this snow wasn't as easy as expected, has to be 12:1 or lower. It 'ripped' here between 2 am and 7 am but the snow growth was pretty mediocre. Almost no dendrites (other than a 20 min band), mostly columns and plates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I know someone who lives in shrewsbury just s of rt 9 off of oak or lake street ill ask him to measure It would be way too late to measure now if you wanted an accurate report...snow depth is probably down 10-20% from its peak, so you'll bias yourself low waiting that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 16" of white gold here in Halifax. Still snowing. Maybe squeak in another couple. Awesome storm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Cleanup was quick here. Roads have been down to pavement since about 10-11 am. They brought in some big pieces of machinery too do the side streets. Pretty efficient as usual by the city Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Have no idea what I got. Went to bed at 12:30am with around 5". I'd say anywhere between 9" and 11" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Took a ride through Southie and Castle Island. Pretty stunning day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BostonWX Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Took a ride through Southie and Castle Island. Pretty stunning day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ray allowed me some time to dance nude with the CF. http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KBOX∏=bref1&bkgr=black&endDate=20140103&endTime=11&duration=10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 This coastal missed us 50 miles to the southeast with the best snow banding. It was this band that would get us widespread 20"+ amounts, but I think models handled this pretty well with the best QPF banding southeast of Nantucket, MA. I would say we ended up with 16", not a KU for this region given the past storms, 1" shy of the FEB 2013 blizzard that gave us 17" of snow. It's too bad this could have been a lot bigger if it hadn't missed us to the southeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Ray allowed me some time to dance nude with the CF. http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KBOX∏=bref1&bkgr=black&endDate=20140103&endTime=11&duration=10 The best bands missed us to the southeast. Bummer. Seems like NJ got the best snow rates from this snowstorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSnowman Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 Pretty good sledging today but only had 5" on the ground. SO GLAD I went to Boston cause I would have been SO down on this storm with a total of 6.75". Disaster really. But seeing this in Boston was fantastic. Got to feel the History associated with this storm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 All in all I think the models handled this fairly well. They were pegging two areas of higher QPF, the WAA band across southern VT and NH and the ocean effect along eastern MA. Very well overall. I think some got a little hyped up thinking we would see epic snow ratios over here and that didn't happen until after dawn today, but a nice event. It would be way too late to measure now if you wanted an accurate report...snow depth is probably down 10-20% from its peak, so you'll bias yourself low waiting that long. Yeah, sublimation city here. Down to 7 or 8". 16" of white gold here in Halifax. Still snowing. Maybe squeak in another couple. Awesome storm You guys have been cleaning up with these too...nice to see. Ray allowed me some time to dance nude with the CF. http://weather.rap.ucar.edu/radar/displayRad.php?icao=KBOX∏=bref1&bkgr=black&endDate=20140103&endTime=11&duration=10 Check out the secondary band that formed over Sandwich. There was a second area of convergence that moved down...smoked Sandwich in a narrow band. This coastal missed us 50 miles to the southeast with the best snow banding. It was this band that would get us widespread 20"+ amounts, but I think models handled this pretty well with the best QPF banding southeast of Nantucket, MA. I would say we ended up with 16", not a KU for this region given the past storms, 1" shy of the FEB 2013 blizzard that gave us 17" of snow. It's too bad this could have been a lot bigger if it hadn't missed us to the southeast. Yes, this could have been something special sans that initial wave that robbed the moisture and pushed the BZ out for the second main deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 This coastal missed us 50 miles to the southeast with the best snow banding. It was this band that would get us widespread 20"+ amounts, but I think models handled this pretty well with the best QPF banding southeast of Nantucket, MA. I would say we ended up with 16", not a KU for this region given the past storms, 1" shy of the FEB 2013 blizzard that gave us 17" of snow. It's too bad this could have been a lot bigger if it hadn't missed us to the southeast. Congrats though. You beat a lot of people which doesn't happen often on the cape. And the cold was impressive as well. Not an everyday setup for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 lol at including the bogus 12" Shrewsbury measurement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 I think you guys mean settling not sublimation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think you guys mean settling not sublimation. No Coastal, I meant sublimation. Especially on a day like today with well-below melting point temps + windy + dry air --> sublimation is relatively significant in eating away accumulation. My point was that the extremely low water content of this snow (ie high SLR) makes this process faster than we are used to seeing. Taken another way, the same rate of sublimation measured by mass / time will eat away snowpack faster because the density of this snow is less. Intuitive example: ice cubes in our freezer disappear over time by sublimation. That is clearly visible over time, but slow because the water density of ice. That process would be much much faster if you put a cup of powdery snowflakes into your freezer. Well described process in places like the Midwest and contributes to disappearance of arctic snow mass, though browsing published papers, it seems difficult to quantify. Obviously, settling or compaction will diminish our apparent accumulation as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No Coastal, I meant sublimation. Especially on a day like today with well-below melting point temps + windy + dry air --> sublimation is relatively significant in eating away accumulation. My point was that the extremely low water content of this snow (ie high SLR) makes this process faster than we are used to seeing. Taken another way, the same rate of sublimation measured by mass / time will eat away snowpack faster because the density of this snow is less. Intuitive example: ice cubes in our freezer disappear over time by sublimation. That is clearly visible over time, but slow because the water density of ice. That process would be much much faster if you put a cup of powdery snowflakes into your freezer. Well described process in places like the Midwest and contributes to disappearance of arctic snow mass, though browsing published papers, it seems difficult to quantify. Obviously, settling or compaction will diminish our apparent accumulation as well. Well BOS was 14 with a dewpoint of 1F. RH was 55%. Not exactly prime sublimation weather. Usually you want those cold windy nights where the dewpoint drops rapidly and tha half inch of fluff you got from a squall vanishes. I honestly think compaction is more of an issue. There is some sublimation, but not the way people are making it out to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I have high density snow that settled about an inch, no sublimation process here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polski Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This is def. an event in which your total will suffer if you haven't be sweeping and clearing in 6 hour increments. Wind and compaction is brutal. You made the point the other day that there's a big difference between snowfall and accumulation. I think this is a great example of why NWS guidance should be for spotters to measure both - do the six-hour sweeps (which also would maintain purer trend) but separately also measure total accumulation. I had 10" of pure fluff at 4 p.m. in my front yard yesterday, it kept snowing all night, and when I woke up mid-morning the measurement at that stick was around 8.5". This afternoon it was 8" there and when I took measurements at numerous places around the property, sheltered and otherwise, I kept coming up with 7-8" with the occasional lolli to 10" ... and it wasn't because of wind. Biggest "drift" I could find was barely a foot. Of course this would have been a slam-dunk 2-footer if I were the Norse god of snow measurement, Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.