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06z Model Discussion | January 2-3 Winter storm


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Nam is even better than 0z

 

 

Euro 2 to 4. GFS. 4 to 8. NAM 8 to 12 still too much variance 48 hrs out. Not kidding will need to see 24 hours to close the spray all of the above is 10 to 1. Take 15 to 1. Take the mean and wait til 12z tomrrw and see if this spread narrows. My bet match 500 mb and see who's wrong . On cell so can't see maps. Sorry

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I tend to think it will back down towards the gfs but who knows. The euro being so much drier is a red flag.

True what was the old rule cut the NAM precip in half lol... But the EURO imo has been really bad since the summer, I would love to see the GFS take more steps towards the nam now... were running out of time

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I'm going to be honest. The NAM isn't drunk. Check the OBS.

 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=19&parm=pmsl#

 

06Z NAM @HR 02:

 

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2014010106&var=VRTHGTGRD_500mb&hour=002

 

The Heights along the Western Atlantic is already slightly higher and the Northern Jet is slightly more amped on the OBS than the 06Z NAM. 

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I'm going to be honest. The NAM isn't drunk. Check the OBS.

 

http://www.spc.noaa.gov/exper/mesoanalysis/new/viewsector.php?sector=19&parm=pmsl#

 

06Z NAM @HR 02:

 

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/NAM-php/showmap-conusncep.php?run=2014010106&var=VRTHGTGRD_500mb&hour=002

 

The Heights along the Western Atlantic is already slightly higher and the Northern Jet is slightly more amped on the OBS than the 06Z NAM. 

hm yea good obs

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I'm surprised no one posted about the nam in the NE subforum.

Because they know up there that it's garbage. I can see a more wet, amplified coastal low than the globals show now, but nothing like that. No model even comes near that depiction. The NAM overamplifies and overdoes storms like this at this range often. As much as I'd like to see it (although a chunk of the precip IMBY is rain or mix), I give it a tiny chance of verifying.

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hm yea good obs

 

Correction for my post above. The PV is in the same location that the 06Z NAM places it, but the Northern Stream is without a doubt digging a bit more. Also, the back of the vort is digging more towards the west. Sound a bit familiar? The end result of all of this will be interesting, but it's unclear if the OBS will make the NAM verify. 

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