Bevo Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 I may have lost RDU and GSO, but I still have been right for much of the south piedmont and foothills of NC and almost all of SC and GA outside of the mountains. And the GFS turns the area too warm for winter precip after Next Thursday. Your call is bollocks without reasoning. And you have yet to provide any. ***EDIT*** Yeah, those progged warm ups have really been working out. #sarcasmfont Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 WeatherNC, on 24 Jan 2014 - 5:34 PM, said: That is a copyrighted image, as are all WxBell maps, FYI. If it gets out into the public domain via FB or Tweeter, fine, link it, but the EC graphics from WxBell are off limits, no need for a JB vs American type deal. May I suggest wunderground, check out the precip, temps, and do the math. http://www.wunderground.com/wundermap/ Since this got brought up in the main storm thread I'm gonna go ahead and ask. Will all posts with WxBell images, no matter what it is, be deleted? I used to not post them knowing they are behind a paywall, but seeing as Ian and others in the MA forum post them I thought it was no big deal. Can anyone clear this up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 GFS, cocaine is a hell of a drug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 GFS, cocaine is a hell of a drug. LOL. I will say this, if this was a potential event for the MA or NE and I was looking at this without any emotional ties and the following models showed a good size event (GGEM, GGEM ENS, UK, Euro ENS, JMA, NAVGEM) and the Op Euro was just about 50 miles away from a big event I would be thinking lock it up for them, this storm will trend stronger/deeper. But it's hard to think that when your on the inside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Since this got brought up in the main storm thread I'm gonna go ahead and ask. Will all posts with WxBell images, no matter what it is, be deleted? I used to not post them knowing they are behind a paywall, but seeing as Ian and others in the MA forum post them I thought it was no big deal. Can anyone clear this up? I will address this since I brought it up in the disco thread. The general consensus from staff based on conversations with a few at WxBell seems to be that any "value added" maps may be ok such as those being derived from raw data. Those maps that are themselves raw data, such as H5 are off limits. I for one am not an expert interpreting how one graphic is derived, and my guess is most on here are not either. It has been noted, that repeat offenders should be identified, this was not by staff, rather the team at WxBell. I suggest if you want to see the EC maps shell at the 20 per month, for those more cost conscious, shell out the 10 for the model center (which is currently discounted btw) and use wunderground to supplement. As I stated in the disco thread, if an EC map gets out into the public domain via other media, feel free to link, but determining whether you are directly posting derived vs raw data seems like a crap-shoot one should not take. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Thank you sir! Wait... wrong link. I kept seeing people going to the old... Correct link: http://www.daculaweather.com/4_model_run_status.php The other link "may" get you close, but those times may have changed in the new model center. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LOL. I will say this, if this was a potential event for the MA or NE and I was looking at this without any emotional ties and the following models showed a good size event (GGEM, GGEM ENS, UK, Euro ENS, JMA, NAVGEM) and the Op Euro was just about 50 miles away from a big event I would be thinking lock it up for them, this storm will trend stronger/deeper. But it's hard to think that when your on the inside. This is exactly how I'm feeling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pcbjr Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 And if you were in P'cola: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaculaWeather Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I have these pages: http://www.daculaweather.com/4_wpc_verification.php http://www.daculaweather.com/4_hpc_verify_precip_month.php http://www.daculaweather.com/4_hpc_verify_precip_3month.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
griteater Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LOL. I will say this, if this was a potential event for the MA or NE and I was looking at this without any emotional ties and the following models showed a good size event (GGEM, GGEM ENS, UK, Euro ENS, JMA, NAVGEM) and the Op Euro was just about 50 miles away from a big event I would be thinking lock it up for them, this storm will trend stronger/deeper. But it's hard to think that when your on the inside. This is exactly how I'm feeling. I'm more in the camp of hoping it trends inland, but thinking it's out to sea or an east of I-95 only event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I have these pages: http://www.daculaweather.com/4_wpc_verification.php http://www.daculaweather.com/4_hpc_verify_precip_month.php http://www.daculaweather.com/4_hpc_verify_precip_3month.php Great sites! Interesting, the 12z GFS/GEFS is more accurate than the 0z GFS/GEFS and at day 4 the OP is more accurate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm more in the camp of hoping it trends inland, but thinking it's out to sea or an east of I-95 only event. Agree, I am rooting for the coast and all to get snow but if Hatteras gets another accumulating snowfall before we do that will be tough to take, it's been over 3 years for RDU. I am so bitter and jaded, I will probably get 5 posted or banned if this system falls apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I'm more in the camp of hoping it trends inland, but thinking it's out to sea or an east of I-95 only event. Believe me, I have those thoughts also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Agree, I am rooting for the coast and all to get snow but if Hatteras gets another accumulating snowfall before we do that will be tough to take, it's been over 3 years for RDU. I am so bitter and jaded, I will probably get 5 posted or banned if this system falls apart. The 3 years and seeing storms like this show up on the models only to shift north, south, east, west and miss RDU has been tough. If we miss this storm, I'm probably going to take a little break. **EDIT** Who am I kidding...I'll be looking at the models the next day... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 You guys....lolz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LOL. I will say this, if this was a potential event for the MA or NE and I was looking at this without any emotional ties and the following models showed a good size event (GGEM, GGEM ENS, UK, Euro ENS, JMA, NAVGEM) and the Op Euro was just about 50 miles away from a big event I would be thinking lock it up for them, this storm will trend stronger/deeper. But it's hard to think that when your on the inside. Agree, I am rooting for the coast and all to get snow but if Hatteras gets another accumulating snowfall before we do that will be tough to take, it's been over 3 years for RDU. I am so bitter and jaded, I will probably get 5 posted or banned if this system falls apart. The 3 years and seeing storms like this show up on the models only to shift north, south, east, west and miss RDU has been tough. If we miss this storm, I'm probably going to take a little break. **EDIT** Who am I kidding...I'll be looking at the models the next day... I am feeling the same way. I really liked our shot at getting a good snow here yesterday, but today just doesn't feels as confident. If we don't get anything from this while the coast gets a big storm, I am going to be so ready for the weather to turn warm and sunny and just stay that way. Just tired of getting good potential and nothing to show for it. Losing is still losing, and I am sick of losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I am feeling the same way. I really liked our shot at getting a good snow here yesterday, but today just doesn't feels as confident. If we don't get anything from this while the coast gets a big storm, I am going to be so ready for the weather to turn warm and sunny and just stay that way. Just tired of getting good potential and nothing to show for it. Losing is still losing, and I am sick of losing[b/]. It's just preparing you for the day that you step up and play me in some ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rduwx Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I am feeling the same way. I really liked our shot at getting a good snow here yesterday, but today just doesn't feels as confident. If we don't get anything from this while the coast gets a big storm, I am going to be so ready for the weather to turn warm and sunny and just stay that way. Just tired of getting good potential and nothing to show for it. Losing is still losing, and I am sick of losing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 LOL. I will say this, if this was a potential event for the MA or NE and I was looking at this without any emotional ties and the following models showed a good size event (GGEM, GGEM ENS, UK, Euro ENS, JMA, NAVGEM) and the Op Euro was just about 50 miles away from a big event I would be thinking lock it up for them, this storm will trend stronger/deeper. But it's hard to think that when your on the inside. Agree, I am rooting for the coast and all to get snow but if Hatteras gets another accumulating snowfall before we do that will be tough to take, it's been over 3 years for RDU. I am so bitter and jaded, I will probably get 5 posted or banned if this system falls apart. The 3 years and seeing storms like this show up on the models only to shift north, south, east, west and miss RDU has been tough. If we miss this storm, I'm probably going to take a little break. **EDIT** Who am I kidding...I'll be looking at the models the next day... I am feeling the same way. I really liked our shot at getting a good snow here yesterday, but today just doesn't feels as confident. If we don't get anything from this while the coast gets a big storm, I am going to be so ready for the weather to turn warm and sunny and just stay that way. Just tired of getting good potential and nothing to show for it. Losing is still losing, and I am sick of losing. holy crap you are a weenie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 The 3 years and seeing storms like this show up on the models only to shift north, south, east, west and miss RDU has been tough. If we miss this storm, I'm probably going to take a little break. **EDIT** Who am I kidding...I'll be looking at the models the next day... Counting this year we will be 7 out of 10 years under 2", we have never had that type of stretch, ever, in 130 years, even in the crappy 90's. We should (I hope) get back to where we get 8 out of 10 years with over 2", where we get 3 to 4 10" seasonal snowfalls every 10 years, and then we will look back and recall how bad this stretch has been for us. I think we are the only area (RDU) that hasn't had a 1" snowfall since the boxing day snowstorm, over 3 years, in fact I know we are. That's why part of me will kind of sit back and laugh if we continue the snow drought this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Pretty Colors!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Hahaha!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Pretty Colors!!!!!! Sold! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 By the way, for you Triangle folks, at 6, Greg Fishel was not at all sold on an out to sea solution. I concur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 It's just preparing you for the day that you step up and play me in some ball. Where do you play? And this would be so much easier if we lived somewhere that we knew it never snowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 $7,571 a gallon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Counting this year we will be 7 out of 10 years under 2", we have never had that type of stretch, ever, in 130 years, even in the crappy 90's. We should (I hope) get back to where we get 8 out of 10 years with over 2", where we get 3 to 4 10" seasonal snowfalls every 10 years, and then we will look back and recall how bad this stretch has been for us. I think we are the only area (RDU) that hasn't had a 1" snowfall since the boxing day snowstorm, over 3 years, in fact I know we are. That's why part of me will kind of sit back and laugh if we continue the snow drought this season. It does seem ever since 2000 we have been either feast or famine. It would be nice to have three decent storms each winter, like 2 or 3 inches each. But now it seems like if we don't get one big storm to meet our average then we don't get anything. Everything has been to the east and west of us lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 Pretty Colors!!!!!! It does seem there are more models for a if storm than against. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WeatherNC Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 By the way, for you Triangle folks, at 6, Greg Fishel was not at all sold on an out to sea solution. I concur. About to jump on the horn with ENC's Chief Met, will report our findings as he has access to more tools than I do... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 25, 2014 Share Posted January 25, 2014 I just wish I could trust those Euro ensembles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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