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If I'm not badly mistaken the euro nailed Sandy 5 days out.

 

It did, GFS was bad, it also nailed the Boxing day storm from 7 days out.  But it's had it's misses, it seems in the past when the Euro had a storm like this 5-6 days out with great ensemble support you could get your snow shovels ready.  Best you could get in Vegas a couple of years with the Euro at 5 days was even money, maybe not even that.  Now you can get 2-1 at 5 days.

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Is there anything worse than having two back to back horrible winters and then you finally get a winter where you have tons of cold but STILL don't get snow ? Talk about a tease this winter has been. After been tortured the last two winters this is just adding insult to injury. Oh, and seeing south Texas, the Carolina's, possibly Florida, and everywhere in between other than GA doesn't help either.

 

Hi Everyone, first time poster here, long time reader and weather geek.  :)  Seems like a good time jump in since my ice age is at least trying to get here!  I am right there with you snowstorm - living in western upstate SC is about as bad a place as you can get for snow. We have watched virtually everyone one around us get snow, and every time it comes to the state line (with either GA or NC) and gives us the donut hole, only to reappear over a line from Union to Rock Hill on up. With Dallas having had multiple events, and the gulf coast getting some action now, it is giving me a complex. If Charleston, Savannah, and Tallahassee cash in and we get the skip job yet again, I'm not sure I'll be able to take it. Might have to move to Santa Land (or maybe Northern Florida) to ever go sledding again!  :fulltilt:  :cry:  :P 

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Hi Everyone, first time poster here, long time reader and weather geek. :) Seems like a good time jump in since my ice age is at least trying to get here! I am right there with you snowstorm - living in western upstate SC is about as bad a place as you can get for snow. We have watched virtually everyone one around us get snow, and every time it comes to the state line (with either GA or NC) and gives us the donut hole, only to reappear over a line from Union to Rock Hill on up. With Dallas having had multiple events, and the gulf coast getting some action now, it is giving me a complex. If Charleston, Savannah, and Tallahassee cash in and we get the skip job yet again, I'm not sure I'll be able to take it. Might have to move to Santa Land (or maybe Northern Florida) to ever go sledding again! :fulltilt::cry::P

Welcome! This is a good time to join , and good to have another fellow upstater on board. Looks like a legit threat at this point.
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Welcome! This is a good time to join , and good to have another fellow upstater on board. Looks like a legit threat at this point.

Thanks! Yeah, hopefully something will work out for us upstaters too. It is nice to have some cold weather again though, I was starting to think the cold I remember as a kid was just in my imagination. Funny the reaction of  some of the folks around here about the cold this year (not you guys, just people in the area = non geeks). It really isn't that much colder than we had just 3 years ago, but I guess we tend to have short memories about stuff like that. Here's to (hopefully) some good times ahead?  :popcorn: 

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I just dealt with that this morning. What type of heating system? Gas furnace, heat pump, etc...?

Heat pump.

Edit: It's working again after it got down to 57 in here.

Does anyone else have snow in the forecast? From Wunderground.

Tuesday Night

A wintry mix. Low 26F. Winds NNW at 5 to 10 mph. Chance of precip 50%. Snow and ice accumulations less than one inch

Wednesday

Scattered snow flurries and snow showers before noon. Becoming partly cloudy later. High 44F. Winds NNW at 10 to 15 mph. Chance of snow 30%.

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Temps rising over the past hour here in Columbia, approaching 40F, interesting.  I wonder why the computer models are constantly wrong about the mysterious warming anomaly for Columbia.  The local meteorologists actually forecast a laughable low of 18F in the city tonight.    

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Temps rising over the past hour here in Columbia, approaching 40F, interesting.  I wonder why the computer models are constantly wrong about the mysterious warming anomaly for Columbia.  The local meteorologists actually forecast a laughable low of 18F in the city tonight.

That's the "Durham Effect".
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Heat pump.

Edit: It's working again after it got down to 57 in here.

 

 

Sounds like your unit was defrosting outside and the compressor went into standby. But the system should have kicked into some mode of auxiliary heat, if that were the case. Check your thermostat to make sure your optional or aux heat mode is engaged.

 

Is your fan set to "auto" on the thermostat? If it is on "run" or "constant" that's likely why you were blowing cold air. If not, it should be set to "auto".

 

Good luck!

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That's the "Durham Effect".

 

I take it you all experience the same thing over there?  Its funny though, the local mets are always forecasting these temperatures that never happen over and over again like they don't understand that the cold air goes around the Appalachians straight to the coast, then back fills sometime the next day just before the southwesterly flow moves it all out.  They do this over and over again.  18 tonight in Columbia, yeah maybe 28F.

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I take it you all experience the same thing over there?  Its funny though, the local mets are always forecasting these temperatures that never happen over and over again like they don't understand that the cold air goes around the Appalachians straight to the coast, then back fills sometime the next day just before the southwesterly flow moves it all out.  They do this over and over again.  18 tonight in Columbia, yeah maybe 28F.

The wind blowing there? 

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I take it you all experience the same thing over there?  Its funny though, the local mets are always forecasting these temperatures that never happen over and over again like they don't understand that the cold air goes around the Appalachians straight to the coast, then back fills sometime the next day just before the southwesterly flow moves it all out.  They do this over and over again.  18 tonight in Columbia, yeah maybe 28F.

It's not as bad as what you are describing, but we often have trouble hitting forecast lows, sometimes by a large margin. Also, it seems to be warmer where I live than in other places nearby, north, west and east. I blame it on Jordan Lake and the line of hills through Orange county, but the non-weenie in me doubts that these effects are real.
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I take it you all experience the same thing over there?  Its funny though, the local mets are always forecasting these temperatures that never happen over and over again like they don't understand that the cold air goes around the Appalachians straight to the coast, then back fills sometime the next day just before the southwesterly flow moves it all out.  They do this over and over again.  18 tonight in Columbia, yeah maybe 28F.

 

I notice on wunderground that there is a very large spread on temps tonight. Higher elevations in NC already approaching -10, with lots of single digits and low teens elsewhere. Higher elevations of upstate just getting to about 10 degrees. But down the "hill", temps much warmer in the mid twenties. Not sure we will get to our advertised low of 12 unless the colder air is just now making it's way down the mountains and will be spreading down and across. Downsloping may be causing some probs as well. 

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The wind blowing there? 

 

Very light.  Supposedly the front had moved east of the area several hours ago, so you would expect NW winds at least 10mph or greater bringing in colder air, but its fairly calm.  The mountains don't seem to slow the cold to much from spreading into your area in Eastern North Carolina, even as far south and east into Wilmington. 

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I notice on wunderground that there is a very large spread on temps tonight. Higher elevations in NC already approaching -10, with lots of single digits and low teens elsewhere. Higher elevations of upstate just getting to about 10 degrees. But down the "hill", temps much warmer in the mid twenties. Not sure we will get to our advertised low of 12 unless the colder air is just now making it's way down the mountains and will be spreading down and across. Downsloping may be causing some probs as well. 

 

Where are you located?

 

I have always noticed that the cold comes down the mountains, especially where I-26 is built, straight down into the Greenville area then stops right around Laurens.  There is also a delayed cold air intrusion at the top of the Savannah River which I think is due to the the two high mountain ranges that are to the north and west.  

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I hate downsloping and the lack of moisture present in the lowest 5000 feet of the atmosphere. This would be a nice event if there was moisture present.

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?image=data%2Fnam-hires%2F00%2Fnam-hires_namer_039_sim_reflectivity.gif&model=nam-hires&area=namer&storm=&cycle=00&param=sim_reflectivity&fhr=039&group=Model+Guidance&imageSize=&scrollx=0&scrolly=0

http://mag.ncep.noaa.gov/Image.php?fhr=042ℑ=data%2Fgfs%2F00%2Fgfs_namer_042_700_rh_ht.gif&model=gfs&area=namer&param=700_rh_ht&group=Model+Guidance&imageSize=M

 

Open the window and let in the heat!

 

:lol:

 

Right maybe a raccoon or opossum  will climb in the window and snuggle with him.

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