JoshM Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Damn... I have no complaints right now. Cold is here, snow chances look great, I don't think it's a matter of if we're getting snow, it's a matter of how much. In my opinion the trend can only go so far northwest with the cold barring down... Shi*, I'll find something to bitc* about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packfan98 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Dumb Question time: What's the difference between a longwave and a shortwave? I really don't know. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Dumb Question time: What's the difference between a longwave and a shortwave? I really don't know. Thanks! Longwave trough is that big U looking thing on the map. Shortwave is a piece of energy in the jet in the trough. I'll post a map in a sec. Edit: Ok, here you go. Here's the 144 hr 12Z Euro 4 panel chart of our storm. The solid black line I drew in the upper left (500mb) panel represents the longwave trough. The 3 green circles represent the shortwaves, or upper level pockets of energy in the longwave flow. Depending on their trajectory and strength, they can sharpen up the base of the trough, which can spin up a storm (off the coast in the upper right panel). The lower right panel shows 850 moisture and temps. I drew the rain/snow line in red. As you can see, it's very far east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Via Twitter from maker of WxBell snow maps...Grain of salt needed folks. Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 1h Please, don't even look at ECMWF 12z -- that snowfall isn't real (I think) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Via Twitter from maker of WxBell snow maps...Grain of salt needed folks. Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 1h Please, don't even look at ECMWF 12z -- that snowfall isn't real (I think) How dare he (I know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Via Twitter from maker of WxBell snow maps...Grain of salt needed folks. Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 1h Please, don't even look at ECMWF 12z -- that snowfall isn't real (I think) What does that even mean? Edit: He's saying the storm isn't going to evolve the way the Euro is showing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
packbacker Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 What does that even mean? It does show 3" of snow down to FSU, that would have to be a record I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strongwxnc Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Via Twitter from maker of WxBell snow maps...Grain of salt needed folks. Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 1h Please, don't even look at ECMWF 12z -- that snowfall isn't real (I think) He thinks it means something What does that even mean? Edit: He's saying the storm isn't going to evolve the way the Euro is showing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG FROSTY Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 What does that even mean? Edit: He's saying the storm isn't going to evolve the way the Euro is showing? I took it as he don't believe the 1-3 inches in Florida? said he would love to see it though! Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 2h Pretty much a wishcast at this point (next Friday), but I'd love to see 1-3 inches of snow in Tallahassee. pic.twitter.com/h4FOVPVb7i Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Via Twitter from maker of WxBell snow maps...Grain of salt needed folks. Ryan Maue @RyanMaue 1h Please, don't even look at ECMWF 12z -- that snowfall isn't real (I think) Are those are the same snow maps that Larry and Shawn were pointing out that had the accuracy issues in the pattern thread? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Gotcha. Thanks guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Are those are the same snow maps that Larry and Shawn were pointing out that had the accuracy issues in the pattern thread? Yes, however with the cold air in place this would fall as 100% snow I believe. Haven't checked soundings or anything but you would think no mix/IP/ZR would be falling and that was the argument with the overdone snow on the maps. Maybe I read too far into his tweet and he was specifically talking Tallahassee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 What does that even mean? Edit: He's saying the storm isn't going to evolve the way the Euro is showing? It means the Euro smoking the rock again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSC Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Does CHS get any snow on the Euro or are 850 temps right on the coast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frazdaddy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Yes, however with the cold air in place this would fall as 100% snow I believe. Haven't checked soundings or anything but you would think no mix/IP/ZR would be falling and that was the argument with the overdone snow on the maps. Maybe I read too far into his tweet and he was specifically talking Tallahassee. Yeah that is prob what he meant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Does CHS get any snow on the Euro or are 850 temps right on the coast? If you read the thread you will see this question has been answered yes...CHS is all snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'm heading to the drug store to purchase their stock of Midol.....can I please get the addresses of all model huggers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'm heading to the drug store to purchase their stock of Midol.....can I please get the addresses of all model huggers? Sad thing about it the drug store might not have enough you will have to buy straight from the company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'm heading to the drug store to purchase their stock of Midol.....can I please get the addresses of all model huggers? What 90% of the posters in the storm thread look like today trying to analyze the Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Sad thing about it the drug store might not have enough you will have to buy straight from the company. True What 90% of the posters in the storm thread look like today trying to analyze the Euro. That was exactly what I was thinking while trying to read it. It's a good thing the only thing I have on my schedule is a Father/Daughter dance for a couple of hrs tomorrow evening in Blythewood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'll hug my 12z euro until you pry it from my cold dead fingers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLweather Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I'll hug my 12z euro until you pry it from my cold dead fingers Or until the 0z comes in slaps you back to reality and you throw the 12z like a hot potato. The Euro overamplification bias at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshM Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Well I'll be content for at least the next 10 hours or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Can't believe that run of the Euro. We would be shut down for days here. Anyway, this is probably the 5th time this winter it's put a big storm for somewhere in the SE, unless it's on to something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brick Tamland Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 It's almost like some folks don't want snow. No matter what, the same folks always say it's not happening. Maybe it won't most of the time, but the negativity everytime is getting old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buckeyefan1 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 More good news for our coastal friends.... @eric_carpenter: @BigJoeBastardi @RyanMaue interesting #1 analog on SLU CIPS to 00z GFS at 96 hrs was 12/22/1989...led to blizzard on se coast!!! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I can always travel to the coast Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metalicwx366 Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 I can always travel to the coast Nothing like having it in your backyard though! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Rain Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Can't believe that run of the Euro. We would be shut down for days here. Anyway, this is probably the 5th time this winter it's put a big storm for somewhere in the SE, unless it's on to something. Don't let Burger hear you say that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
burgertime Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 Don't let Burger hear you say that. Last time I pushed him on this he had to go all the way back to November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted January 23, 2014 Share Posted January 23, 2014 this type of solution falls under "my too good to be true" category but i'll keep my hopes up anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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