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Isopycnic

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It's depressing. Makes me want to go back to the good old pre-internet days of blissful ignorance and not thinking it's going to snow until the man on the evening news starts talking about it.

Other than maybe WidreMann, we needed a Greek chorus yesterday to try to pull us back into reality. It was all too good to be true.

Yeah... The worst thing is that the local newscasters started talking a little about the snow again, too, with quotes like "it depends on the track" rather than outright saying we were going to be dry, as before. I'll admit I got way too excited after the 18z GFS, but when the 21z SREF swung way west to match it, I really thought we had something.

To be fair, we still could possibly get a token snow here, but eith temperatures so cold, it could have more impact than usual. If the east trend continues, we're done, though.

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No doubt. Had some good trends yesterday even the  00 run's from last night looks good. But it is coming in now. Players are starting to be placed on the table where good data is available. 

 

Good luck all.

I couldnt buy a NW trend when I need one!

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I'm kind of feeling like this this morning...

 

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Definite bummer for us and points west but our coastal friends look to still get a very big event. Plan on resuming my ranting about lack of snow on Friday :-). Until then w can cheer on our southern GA, SE NC/SC friends, maybe we can get an 1-2". Have a feeling though that this will be another Dec 2000 where the eastern shift will continue up until game time.

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Definite bummer for us and points west but our coastal friends look to still get a very big event. Plan on resuming my ranting about lack of snow on Friday :-). Until then w can cheer on our southern GA, SE NC/SC friends, maybe we can get an 1-2". Have a feeling though that this will be another Dec 2000 where the eastern shift will continue up until game time.

 

Yeah, I mentioned yesterday that 12/2000 was still in the back of my head with this setup.  We'll see what happens.  I'd be happy with 4-5 inches right now.

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While I loved the 18z GFS it was an extreme solution. I blame the 00z GFS for really getting our hopes up. On a positive note the models all winter have under performed once the moisture has made it here. I'm going to make a bold weenie call and for 2 inches in CLT if the models hold the line this morning and do not shift east. 

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While I loved the 18z GFS it was an extreme solution. I blame the 00z GFS for really getting our hopes up. On a positive note the models all winter have under performed once the moisture has made it here. I'm going to make a bold weenie call and for 2 inches in CLT if the models hold the line this morning and do not shift east. 

I think 2-3 here. The 3 would be a slight trend NW. I think the models don't portray the upslope very well over here.

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:weenie:

 

If you are going for 2", I say .01 out my way to the west of you..

 

While I loved the 18z GFS it was an extreme solution. I blame the 00z GFS for really getting our hopes up. On a positive note the models all winter have under performed once the moisture has made it here. I'm going to make a bold weenie call and for 2 inches in CLT if the models hold the line this morning and do not shift east. 

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BMX dropped their Winter Storm Watch for their CWA. I would probably replace them with a WWA though, just to be on the safe side, but that's jmo. Kinda surprised I was expanded into the Winter Storm Warning here, my thinking was I would be thrown into a WWA when I woke up this morning. I still think Atlanta will see at least 1 inch bearing there's no more drastic eastward shifts with the models today.

 

3z SREF model plume shows a mean of 3.40 inches here, literally sliced in half from that 21z run last night. Most of the members are more evenly spread out too.

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Off to work with the small thought of a miracle happening today. Hard to believe with all the cold we have had in January we are staring a third consecutive year with no snowfall of 1" @ KAVL! Even imby which is better placed for nwfs than the airport nothing @ 3" in the same time span.......gotta love or love to hate winter weather I guess.

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That's the SREF basically in a user-friendly viewer. The SREF is still being bullish, you would think some members are still seeing a phase because there are a few members with 12"+ totals for RDU. Mean is still above 6", something to hang our hats on there. So essentially the short range GFS (SREF) isn't buying it's daddy. We'll see.

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That's the SREF basically in a user-friendly viewer. The SREF is still being bullish, you would think some members are still seeing a phase because there are a few members with 12"+ totals for RDU. Mean is still above 6", something to hang our hats on there. So essentially the short range GFS (SREF) isn't buying it's daddy. We'll see.

 

Latest SREF should be coming out soon so we'll know if it comes out wetter if some changes are a foot. 

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FFC holding serve, in fact increasing totals to the southeast of me. This graphic is from about 2 hrs. ago. Just throwing this out there, I think FFC is somewhat in agreement w/ Robert this morning on how far north the precip could get. I noticed they have parts of far N. GA under a SWS and calling for about 1/2 inch of snow up there. So they're obviously erring on the side of caution and letting it be known the scenario is on the table.

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BMX dropped their Winter Storm Watch for their CWA. I would probably replace them with a WWA though, just to be on the safe side, but that's jmo. Kinda surprised I was expanded into the Winter Storm Warning here, my thinking was I would be thrown into a WWA when I woke up this morning. I still think Atlanta will see at least 1 inch bearing there's no more drastic eastward shifts with the models today.

 

3z SREF model plume shows a mean of 3.40 inches here, literally sliced in half from that 21z run last night. Most of the members are more evenly spread out too.

I think that might be an error on the website. Their zone forecasts still have the watch.

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I think Robert's Tweets last night got some of us excited, too, especially that gem about someone between CLT and RDU getting over a foot. To be fair, that could still happen, so we shall see.

Unlikely.

Seriously, every storm trends NW...except when that would result in central NC getting more than token snow, and then that trend fails. What kind of luck is this?

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I think that might be an error on the website. Their zone forecasts still have the watch.

Yeah, you're right. I guess when they issued a Wind Advisory it was overlapped on top of the WSW. Sorry for any confusion I may have caused.

 

 

Unlikely.

Seriously, every storm trends NW...except when that would result in central NC getting more than token snow, and then that trend fails. What kind of luck is this?

 

You don't happen to be a shoe salesman do you? They have the worst luck in life. :lol:

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Per Robert (wxsouth) on twitter:

 

"Water Vapor tells truth. Main upper low Baja is sending vorts into break-off upper low in Arizona. Will expand precip Tues in South."

 

It sounds like he is going to go WAY out on a limb today! I think all of us SE weenies should go out there and support him! I really hope he is correct!

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You know this is a complex storm unfolding when even Robert is having a hard time figuring out how much will fall. To say the models have what will happen ironed you right now is asking a lot. Fully expect a good bit of waffling around today and the players get sampled more and more. Fun to watch either way, hope someone gets buried in snow!

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