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MHX has a low on the point and click of 12 for me thursday morning. Thats with wednesday being sunny and dry so who knows how cold it might be able to get if we get a decent snowpack here between I-95 and highway 17

 

Indeed... I see a couple of record lows and high low maximums in your future

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The weenies and lookyloos are coming out of the woodwork and cluttering up the storm thread. Lol. Posting maps that are 6 hours old. I guess we will get to read every winter storm watch issued by the field offices next. My favorite is "my local forecast says 20% chance of precip with no accumulation. Do you think that's right?"

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That's funny my parents moved from CT to Daniel Island (Charleston,SC) 4 years ago so there used to ice and snow. Everyone is freeking out at the grocery stores which in a case like this rightfully so since they rarely ever get something like this but it's funny to hear my parents complain about the snow and ice when they specifically moved away from it. There obv skeptical of the forecast but they are in a good spot right now if your looking for snow and/or ice.

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The weenies and lookyloos are coming out of the woodwork and cluttering up the storm thread. Lol. Posting maps that are 6 hours old. I guess we will get to read every winter storm watch issued by the field offices next. My favorite is "my local forecast says 20% chance of precip with no accumulation. Do you think that's right?"

 

I know... these damn kids keep messing with our stuff :fulltilt:

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The weenies and lookyloos are coming out of the woodwork and cluttering up the storm thread. Lol. Posting maps that are 6 hours old. I guess we will get to read every winter storm watch issued by the field offices next. My favorite is "my local forecast says 20% chance of precip with no accumulation. Do you think that's right?"

"do you think it will trend west"

 

"euro has [insert bias] all winter"

 

"check this out [insert outrageous sref map here]"

 

"baby steps..."

 

"tomorrow will tell the tale"

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My gut tells me the coast is going to get screwed. I think atlanta does well and places between Atlanta and Macon are going to be digging out.

 

Same here.

 

 

Coastal sections have been in the bullseye for days. I know from past exp... you don't want that. Still alot of things can go wrong. The surface front and front aloft could not push all the way south. The s/ws could phase leading to a stronger system overall.  Still too many what ifs imo . Its not that I personally don't want those folks to enjoy some winter weather but this is something extrememly rare. Not that it can't happen as well.

 

Right climo has a solid heavy foot. I would not bet against climo. Storms almost always trend N/W

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Crappy north ga. Always miss out on mtn snows and now south ga gonna get buried and in Forsyth county probably won't see a flake. So frustrating

 

I think all of us piedmont peeps in N GA, Upstate, and even NC Piedmont are in the same boat. Most of us have not seen any accums in over 3 years now, but we have watched the mountains get theirs, and even those to our West such as everyone from Texas to Alabama get multiple events this year. A couple days ago we saw the gulf coast get snow, and are about to watch those to our south and east possibly get buried. Heck even eastern NC got snow the other day. We are literally the donut hole here and may be virtually the only spot (outside of Fla) in the entire continental US who will not have seen snow this year. That is a pretty bitter pill to swallow. 

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Folk to be honest let's be real.. how many models have been showing a coastal special and how many been showing a phase and an inland storm.. not trying to be a debbie downer but all this wish casting is crazy.... since gawx opened up about the storm the euro op and ensemble were real close and today the euro is pretty much showing the storm in the same place when gawx first opened the thread... of course id like everyone to get in on the deal but the reality is the models aren't making any major shifts just baby steps to the east or west.. tonights 0z runs might hold something for us but we are almost within 48 hrs and the vorts are being sampled today so if 0z don't throw us a bone I'm not sure how much the models can trend tommorow within 24 hrs.

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I think all of us piedmont peeps in N GA, Upstate, and even NC Piedmont are in the same boat. Most of us have not seen any accums in over 3 years now, but we have watched the mountains get theirs, and even those to our West such as everyone from Texas to Alabama get multiple events this year. A couple days ago we saw the gulf coast get snow, and are about to watch those to our south and east possibly get buried. Heck even eastern NC got snow the other day. We are literally the donut hole here and may be virtually the only spot (outside of Fla) in the entire continental US who will not have seen snow this year. That is a pretty bitter pill to swallow. 

I now feel lucky having seen about 2-3 inches in the past three years. However, most of that amount came from two night time storms where the snow was gone by morning.

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Folk to be honest let's be real.. how many models have been showing a coastal special and how many been showing a phase and an inland storm.. not trying to be a debbie downer but all this wish casting is crazy.... since gawx opened up about the storm the euro op and ensemble were real close and today the euro is pretty much showing the storm in the same place when gawx first opened the thread... of course id like everyone to get in on the deal but the reality is the models aren't making any major shifts just baby steps in this or the direction.. tonights 0z runs might hold something for us but we are almost within 48 hrs and the vorts are being sampled today so if 0z don't throw us a bone I'm not sure how much the models can trend tommorow within 24 hrs.

 

Yes. The truth is, there may be a <5% chance that it could work out for us, but for us to model watch and hope that somehow days of multiple model projections will somehow completely change to an I-85 special is just not very realistic. I am still hopeful we will see something in February. Maybe if the coming warmup is short lived we will fall back into a favorable pattern soon. 

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More watches

 

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WILMINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTER
STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH
WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.
 
* LOCATIONS...SOUTHEAST NORTH CAROLINA AND NORTHEAST SOUTH
  CAROLINA.
 
* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW AND SLEET. POCKETS OF FREEZING RAIN ARE
  POSSIBLE.
 
* ACCUMULATIONS...THE RISK FOR SIGNIFICANT ACCUMULATIONS OF SNOW
  AND SLEET IS INCREASING. SNOW AMOUNTS MAY EXCEED 3 INCHES.
 
* TIMING...THE HEAVIEST SNOW AND SLEET IS EXPECTED TUESDAY NIGHT.
  A WINTRY MIX MAY BEGIN AS EARLY AS TUESDAY AFTERNOON. SNOW MAY
  LINGER INTO MUCH OF WEDNESDAY.
 
* WINDS...NORTH 15 TO 20 MPH WITH GUSTS UP TO 30 MPH.
 
* TEMPERATURES...IN THE 20S TUESDAY NIGHT WITH WIND CHILLS AROUND
  10 DEGREES.
 
* IMPACTS...VERY DANGEROUS TRAVEL IS EXPECTED TO DEVELOP AS ROADS
  BECOME SNOW COVERED. BRIDGES WILL BE ICY AND EXTREMELY
  HAZARDOUS. THERE MAY BE LENGTHY POWER INTERRUPTIONS AS WINDS
  GUST TO 20 TO 30 MPH DURING THE HEIGHT OF THE STORM.
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..WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH

WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON...

 

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN COLUMBIA HAS ISSUED A WINTER

STORM WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM LATE TUESDAY MORNING

THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

 

* LOCATIONS...THE MIDLANDS OF SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE CENTRAL

  SAVANNAH RIVER AREA OF GEORGIA.

 

* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW AND SLEET.

 

* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATION OF 1 TO 3 INCHES

  POSSIBLE.

 

* TIMING...LATE TUESDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON.

 

* IMPACTS...SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATION WILL CREATE

  DANGEROUS DRIVING CONDITIONS. DAMAGE TO TREES...POWER LINES AND

  EVEN STRUCTURES IS POSSIBLE. WIDESPREAD POWER OUTAGES COULD

  PRODUCE LIFE THREATENING SITUATIONS.

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Most understand what you are saying. However, the game is not over until 00:00. That is the way most play around here. No one is creating a forecast off of wishing, at least I have not seen it. Folks, like you and me, you know, non-met type and just throwing data against the wall hoping it will stick.

 

I for one love it. I also know that I will most likely be bring a knife to the gun fight once this system drops the boom.

(meaning, my ass will be NW of the action :)

 

 

 

 

Folk to be honest let's be real.. how many models have been showing a coastal special and how many been showing a phase and an inland storm.. not trying to be a debbie downer but all this wish casting is crazy.... since gawx opened up about the storm the euro op and ensemble were real close and today the euro is pretty much showing the storm in the same place when gawx first opened the thread... of course id like everyone to get in on the deal but the reality is the models aren't making any major shifts just baby steps to the east or west.. tonights 0z runs might hold something for us but we are almost within 48 hrs and the vorts are being sampled today so if 0z don't throw us a bone I'm not sure how much the models can trend tommorow within 24 hrs.

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Looks like I will definitely be on the outside looking in on this one.

It is always interesting here in the Triad region.  We certainly get a piece of a lot more storms than locations to the east or south (and in some ways west because we don't end up in the snow shadow as often as the foothills), but we never get the jackpot.  It's north with the borderline storms where we sneak into the snow, east with the coastal storms, or west with the storms that bury the mountains and we get what moisture is able to make it over.  

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It is always interesting here in the Triad region.  We certainly get a piece of a lot more storms than locations to the east or south (and in some ways west because we don't end up in the snow shadow as often as the foothills), but we never get the jackpot.  It's north with the borderline storms where we sneak into the snow, east with the coastal storms, or west with the storms that bury the mountains and we get what moisture is able to make it over.  

I was thinking about that the other day. Very sad to think about.haha

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