AppsRunner Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Got probably a little over an inch here in BG with light snow. Flake size is pretty good and this snow looks to continue for several more hours. Hopefully that second wave Wednesday Night can produce too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Your right. My bad. 18-23 in the East is more like mediocre. Since Nicky left they have been mediocre. Seven years counting of their winning percentage dropping from year to year. I thought they would be mediocre faster but Nicky was a God even at 40. Now they are only mediocre because they still have HOF bound ppg players Alfie, Dats, Z, Franzen, Kronwall. Who are 41, 35, 33, 34, 32. Of course I respect the 1991-2011 run. Of course I wish it was my team who was that dominant. Of course I will have no sympathy for Detroit no longer being a cup contender 20+ straight years in the playoffs. Just sayin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wowzers. .30 here. I am on the edge like Stebo is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 ILN goes WWA for most. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE WILMINGTON OH304 AM EST WED JAN 1 2014...ACCUMULATING SNOW FOR THURSDAY...INZ050-058-059-066-073>075-080-KYZ089>095-OHZ026-034-035-042>046-051>056-060>065-070>072-077-078-011700-/O.NEW.KILN.WW.Y.0001.140102T0500Z-140103T0000Z/WAYNE-FAYETTE IN-UNION IN-FRANKLIN IN-RIPLEY-DEARBORN-OHIO-SWITZERLAND-CARROLL-GALLATIN-BOONE-KENTON-CAMPBELL-OWEN-GRANT-HARDIN-MERCER-AUGLAIZE-DARKE-SHELBY-LOGAN-UNION OH-DELAWARE-MIAMI-CHAMPAIGN-CLARK-MADISON-FRANKLIN OH-LICKING-PREBLE-MONTGOMERY-GREENE-FAYETTE OH-PICKAWAY-FAIRFIELD-BUTLER-WARREN-CLINTON-HAMILTON-CLERMONT-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...RICHMOND...CONNERSVILLE...LIBERTY...BROOKVILLE...VERSAILLES...LAWRENCEBURG...RISING SUN...VEVAY...CARROLLTON...WARSAW...BURLINGTON...INDEPENDENCE...ALEXANDRIA...OWENTON...WILLIAMSTOWN...KENTON...CELINA...WAPAKONETA...GREENVILLE...SIDNEY...BELLEFONTAINE...MARYSVILLE...DELAWARE...PIQUA...URBANA...SPRINGFIELD...LONDON...COLUMBUS...NEWARK...EATON...DAYTON...XENIA...WASHINGTON COURT HOUSE...CIRCLEVILLE...LANCASTER...HAMILTON...LEBANON...WILMINGTON...CINCINNATI...MILFORD304 AM EST WED JAN 1 2014...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO7 PM EST THURSDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN WILMINGTON HAS ISSUED A WINTERWEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHTTO 7 PM EST THURSDAY.* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW ACCUMULATIONS OF 2 TO 4 INCHES WITH LOCALLYHIGHER AMOUNTS IN THE NORTHERN MIAMI VALLEY.* TIMING...SNOW WILL BEGIN EARLY THURSDAY MORNING AND CONTINUEINTO THE DAY THURSDAY. SNOW WILL TAPER OFF THURSDAY EVENING.* IMPACTS...TRAVEL DIFFICULTIES ARE EXPECTED DUE TO REDUCEDVISIBILITIES AND SNOW ACCUMULATIONS.* WIND CHILLS TOWARD THE END OF THIS STORM WILL BEGIN TO DROPBELOW ZERO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It looks like the wave for today might come in two parts. The first affecting areas north of I-80 from the morning into the evening, and the 2nd generally south of I-80 during the evening and overnight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AppsRunner Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It looks like the wave for today might come in two parts. The first affecting areas north of I-80 from the morning into the evening, and the 2nd generally south of I-80 during the evening and overnight. CLE's gonna need to extend the advisory time until Thursday afternoon unless they plan on the second wave being significantly faster or further south than hi-res models suggest. Either way it looks like 4-6" Tonight/Thursday on top of the 1-3" that's falling thru the earlier AM. I can live with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 IND issued a winter weather advisory for the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 20+ straight years in the playoffs. Just sayin. I'd say the 4 Stanley Cup wins are the impressive part. The blues made it 25 years in a row the Bruins like 28 years in a row. Both franchises learned it can't go on forever and it's better to blow it up and rebuild. I'd say with Nyquist, tater, Jurco, Sheahan and others as the next crop of Wings it's time to blow it up and rebuild and stock the shelves with future talent for the next Wings dynasty. I know many Wings fans will believe the playoff streak will never end so it's a moot point really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 06z NAM bufkit has a super deep DGZ with elevated cape. Deep omega here. Puts out 6.5" or so with 12/13-1 and .45 qpf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 The RAP digs the vort max more and is more consolidated with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
on_wx Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Environment Canada is forecasting 4-6" over 30-36 hours with a special weather statement for areas of Southwestern Ontario. The statement covers all areas south of a line from the southernmost tip of Lake Huron to the south shore of Lake Ontario on the Niagara Peninsula. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McDude Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Just getting home from work. Lot more snow on the south east side than by me here near MDW. At least 3.5-4" down over there. Maybe around 2" here. Also had some snow pellets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maumee Bay Turf Center Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 3" in toledo with sn- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 RAP has gone back North a bit with the vort max. I will take 3.5-4" and be happy. Good times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It is rare that I get cocky enough to say something like this...but Im saying it....DTX's forecast of 4-6" total for Detroit south to the OH border is busting. Period. No maybe if....no well its possible...its busting. Even should the heaviest snow stay south of the MI/OH border, all models show snow continue well into Thursday morning now. The snow began here as pixie dust around 10pm last night, and while the first several tenths were sugary, the overnight snowfall was extremely fluffy high ratio (on the order of 20-30:1). What that tells me is that the periods of pixie dust will provide lower 10-12:1 ratios, but the good dendrites should easily be able to AT LEAST offer 15-20:1 ratios. From 10pm last night to 715am this morning, I had 2.1" of snow on 0.08" water. There is now 3+ on the ground and snow coming down. Round 1: Dec 31st 12am-3pm snow: 1.4" Main round...10pm NYE to 715am today: 2.1" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 That goofy ORD data(.3 precip 3 inch snow) went into the climate report... also weak lake effect over SE WI and NE IL now moving WSW off the lake and system snows developing over it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I've got about 1.5" so far overnight, right now solid banding has set up right over me and it's adding up quick. Big fat flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 it's a start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
janetjanet998 Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 SN+ at UGN WAUKEGAN HVY SNOW 9 6 88 N6 30.26S VSB 1/4 WCI -1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I think this storm is a prime example of our flawed winter weather advisory and winter storm warning criteria. The advisories and warnings shouldn't be based on some arbitrary volume of snow falling for a given time period, but rather the impacts that the snow causes. For example areas could receive 15" of snow over two days with temps in the upper teens. The snow will stick to all roads creating treacherous conditions. Generally travel would not be recommended. However, this type of storm would warrant only an advisory (e.g. not reaching the 8" in 24 hour threshold). Conversely, let's say you have a storm that drops 3-7" of snow in 12 hours over an area with temps around 32. The snow might not accumulate to any road surfaces and travel is generally not impacted. But because there might be a few 6-7" lollipops, a warning will be issued. I think the current system gives a false sense of weather expectations. Didn't DTX test out a more "conditions based" warning system a few years ago? Did anything ever come of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanis Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 also weak lake effect over SE WI and NE IL now moving WSW off the lake and system snows developing over itWild how quickly the banding redeveloped. We have had light returns for the past few hours, which have now blossomed, especially along/just north of the border. I'm expecting this to slowly slip south later this AM.Back to SN here: http://ustre.am/16Txc We picked up another inch since I last cleared and measured, bringing my storm total through Wed 7 AM to 6.9". Back to bed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I think this storm is a prime example of our flawed winter weather advisory and winter storm warning criteria. The advisories and warnings shouldn't be based on some arbitrary volume of snow falling for a given time period, but rather the impacts that the snow causes. For example areas could receive 15" of snow over two days with temps in the upper teens. The snow will stick to all roads creating treacherous conditions. Generally travel would not be recommended. However, this type of storm would warrant only an advisory (e.g. not reaching the 8" in 24 hour threshold). Conversely, let's say you have a storm that drops 3-7" of snow in 12 hours over an area with temps around 32. The snow might not accumulate to any road surfaces and travel is generally not impacted. But because there might be a few 6-7" lollipops, a warning will be issued. I think the current system gives a false sense of weather expectations. Didn't DTX test out a more "conditions based" warning system a few years ago? Did anything ever come of that? I don't think anything came of it. Good point about the flaw aspect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stormtrackertf Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Wish my phone had a better camera. Looks like a snow globe outside with no wind and the big dime-sized flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanis Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 You can really see the lake influence, especially on milwaukee's radar. Looks like it's currently focusing on Racine County, and slipping north as winds shift. Snows are enhanced down here too, but that's a more focused band up there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 As I figured I'm too far north. Dry air 100% this morning. Only excitement was an intense LES band of snow 6-11PM (however just north of MBY got most of it). I got to see it because I was up there. I got 1/2" but some areas north between Fenton and Grand Blanc got 2-3". I think DTX did a great job with the forecast here. They didn't call for much and I am not getting much! Everyone else enjoy. Happy New Year!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 I have to laugh at those SREF plumes, because you can end up with the max plume. I'm glad they let you look back at the previous days. Yesterday, there were only two plumes that had CLE at 4" or more by 12z this morning. Of course, one of those ends up with 15" and the other 12.5" (highest and then 5th highest plume) Do I think that'll happen? nope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilbertfly Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 pretty nice nose of convergence setting up... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Global_Warmer Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 12z RAP coming in a bit South of it's recent runs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maumee Bay Turf Center Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 It is rare that I get cocky enough to say something like this...but Im saying it....DTX's forecast of 4-6" total for Detroit south to the OH border is busting. Period. No maybe if....no well its possible...its busting. Even should the heaviest snow stay south of the MI/OH border, all models show snow continue well into Thursday morning now. The snow began here as pixie dust around 10pm last night, and while the first several tenths were sugary, the overnight snowfall was extremely fluffy high ratio (on the order of 20-30:1). What that tells me is that the periods of pixie dust will provide lower 10-12:1 ratios, but the good dendrites should easily be able to AT LEAST offer 15-20:1 ratios. From 10pm last night to 715am this morning, I had 2.1" of snow on 0.08" water. There is now 3+ on the ground and snow coming down. Round 1: Dec 31st 12am-3pm snow: 1.4" Main round...10pm NYE to 715am today: 2.1" Looks like we may not have the lull here they spoke of. Continues in almost "train" like fashion over toledo. Almost 4" here when they called for 1-2 by daybreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Solid moderate SN now, but just got done with a period of +SN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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