Avdave Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Little breeze...temp back up 2 degrees.... 15* here at the house Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 13/5... High today was a midnight high of 27. ~Sent from a device that cannot speel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aldie 22 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 15* here at the house Jyo is 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 13.8 - close to the daily low after a midnight high of 29.1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokeybandit Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Already 11.7 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Already 11.7 here. My exact reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Went ahead and saved this AFD disco... when is last time you heard LWX mentioning WC's of -20 to -40? AREA FORECAST DISCUSSIONNATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BALTIMORE MD/WASHINGTON DC915 PM EST FRI JAN 3 2014 <snip> SUNDAY NIGHT...PRECIP SHOULD TAPER OFF TO LIGHT/DRIZZLE FOR THEEVENING OVER MOST OF THE AREA...THEN THE COLD FRONT ENTERS THE AREAFROM THE WEST LATE IN THE NIGHT. PRECIP WILL CHANGE FROM RAIN TOSNOW SHOWERS. CURRENT 12Z SUITE SUGGESTS THE TRANSITION ZONE TO SNOWWILL BE EAST OF THE BLUE RIDGE LATE IN THE NIGHT WITH SNOW TAPERINGOFF THROUGH THE MORNING HOURS FOR I-95 AND EAST. THIS IS A POWERFULFRONT...AND THE JET IS PROGGED TO STRENGTHEN AS THE UPR TROUGHSHIFTS EAST ACROSS THE AREA. THEREFORE...WILL HAVE TO WATCH FORCONTINUED SNOW SHOWERS/SQUALLS INTO MONDAY MORNING.LATER MONDAY...POST-STRONG COLD FRONT WITH WIND HEADLINES POSSIBLE.TEMPERATURES WILL DROP THROUGH THE DAY WITH WIND CHILL HEADLINESPOSSIBLE BY THE LATE MORNING FOR THE ALLEGHENY HIGHLANDS.&&.LONG TERM /MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH FRIDAY/...COLDEST OUTBREAK SINCE JANUARY 19-21 1994 EXPECTED MONDAY NIGHTTHROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT. SUBZERO MIN TEMPS WEST OF I-95 LIKELY MONDAYNIGHT WITH WINDS OF 20 TO 25 MPH PRODUCING WIND CHILLS OF -5F ORLESS ACROSS THE AREA...WITH -20F TO POSSIBLY -40F AT HIGHERELEVATIONS BLUE RIDGE AND WEST LATE MONDAY NIGHT INTO TUESDAY. WINDCHILL WATCHES FOR THIS EVENT WILL PROBABLY BE ISSUED BY SUNDAY.CONTINUED COLD THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT AS HIGH PRESSURE SETTLES JUSTSOUTH OF THE AREA. THE WIND WILL THANKFULLY CALM DOWN...BUT RATHERLOW MIN TEMPS WOULD OCCUR. WILL HAVE TO WATCH FOR CLOUDS TUESDAYNIGHT AS WELL.RETURN FLOW THEN WEDNESDAY INTO FRIDAY IN ADVANCE OF THE NEXT COLDFRONT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Dropped to 9 then went back to 11. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avdave Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Jyo is 19 13.8 at the wxbug station at the school 13.9 here on my PWS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 16.8. NAM joins the party and sends a good deal of the area below zero Tuesday morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usedtobe Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 10.8, I was at 11.7 then jumped above 12 and now am down to 10.8. I guess any hint of a wind and my temp bounces up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIC Airport Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 No snowcover in the DC and Balto. area during the 12/83 cold wave. A few snow showers and squalls accompanied the front and coated the ground but not enough to be considered snowcover. I'm sure there have been many more major cold waves that had no snowcover. If Ihave time later I will look into it. I don't know all the intricacies like Ian and others on the DCA station history and its period of record so I will have to let others comment if they wish. There is a period in the early to mid 1940s where observations were threaded between multiple stations for Washington, D.C and I'm not exactly sure exactly when that took place. My guess would be 1945 to 1946, but I don't know for sure. Anyway, below are the seasons and the number of days where the temperature dropped below 10°F at DCA. If you're like me for Richmond, you have most if not all snow event's memorized so this should help you identify where single digits or below might've taken place without snowcover. Also keep in mind that snowdepth data may be nonexistent prior to the 1940s for many stations. In the meantime, I will try to find the station pre-DCA and post accordingly. Threshold Exceedance Summary Station: WASHINGTON REAGAN AP State: VA ID: 448906 Latitude: 38.85 degrees Longitude: -77.03 degrees Elevation: 10 feet Station period of record: 08/01/1941-01/02/2014 Seasonal Rankings Creation time: 01/03/2014 21:59 EST Element: Min Temperature Units: degF Analysis: Num. of days<=9.0 Season: 7/1 - 6/30 Period of analysis: 1941 - 2014 Column delimiter: tab Rank Value Year Num. Missing 1 4 1941-1942 31 2 5 1942-1943 0 3 0 1943-1944 0 4 0 1944-1945 0 5 0 1945-1946 1 6 1 1946-1947 0 7 3 1947-1948 0 8 0 1948-1949 0 9 0 1949-1950 0 10 0 1950-1951 0 11 0 1951-1952 0 12 0 1952-1953 0 13 0 1953-1954 0 14 0 1954-1955 0 15 0 1955-1956 0 16 1 1956-1957 0 17 1 1957-1958 0 18 0 1958-1959 0 19 0 1959-1960 0 20 5 1960-1961 0 21 1 1961-1962 0 22 3 1962-1963 0 23 1 1963-1964 0 24 1 1964-1965 0 25 2 1965-1966 0 26 0 1966-1967 0 27 4 1967-1968 0 28 0 1968-1969 0 29 5 1969-1970 0 30 0 1970-1971 0 31 3 1971-1972 0 32 1 1972-1973 0 33 0 1973-1974 0 34 0 1974-1975 0 35 0 1975-1976 0 36 4 1976-1977 0 37 0 1977-1978 0 38 6 1978-1979 0 39 0 1979-1980 0 40 0 1980-1981 0 41 4 1981-1982 0 42 0 1982-1983 0 43 6 1983-1984 0 44 3 1984-1985 0 45 0 1985-1986 0 46 2 1986-1987 0 47 0 1987-1988 0 48 0 1988-1989 0 49 2 1989-1990 0 50 0 1990-1991 0 51 0 1991-1992 0 52 0 1992-1993 0 53 6 1993-1994 0 54 1 1994-1995 0 55 2 1995-1996 0 56 0 1996-1997 0 57 0 1997-1998 0 58 0 1998-1999 0 59 0 1999-2000 0 60 0 2000-2001 0 61 0 2001-2002 0 62 0 2002-2003 0 63 1 2003-2004 0 64 0 2004-2005 0 65 0 2005-2006 0 66 0 2006-2007 0 67 0 2007-2008 0 68 1 2008-2009 0 69 0 2009-2010 0 70 0 2010-2011 0 71 0 2011-2012 0 72 0 2012-2013 0 Average 1.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Thanks Anthony. Good stuff I'm 19/3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormpc Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 9.5 currently. Maybe 2 or 3 is in the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I don't know all the intricacies like Ian and others on the DCA station history and its period of record so I will have to let others comment if they wish. There is a period in the early to mid 1940s where observations were threaded between multiple stations for Washington, D.C and I'm not exactly sure exactly when that took place. My guess would be 1945 to 1946, but I don't know for sure. Anyway, below are the seasons and the number of days where the temperature dropped below 10°F at DCA. If you're like me for Richmond, you have most if not all snow event's memorized so this should help you identify where single digits or below might've taken place without snowcover. Also keep in mind that snowdepth data may be nonexistent prior to the 1940s for many stations. In the meantime, I will try to find the station pre-DCA and post accordingly. Threshold Exceedance Summary Station: WASHINGTON REAGAN AP State: VA ID: 448906 Latitude: 38.85 degrees Longitude: -77.03 degrees Elevation: 10 feet Station period of record: 08/01/1941-01/02/2014 Seasonal Rankings Creation time: 01/03/2014 21:59 EST Element: Min Temperature Units: degF Analysis: Num. of days<=9.0 Season: 7/1 - 6/30 Period of analysis: 1941 - 2014 Column delimiter: tab Rank Value Year Num. Missing 1 4 1941-1942 31 2 5 1942-1943 0 3 0 1943-1944 0 4 0 1944-1945 0 5 0 1945-1946 1 6 1 1946-1947 0 7 3 1947-1948 0 8 0 1948-1949 0 9 0 1949-1950 0 10 0 1950-1951 0 11 0 1951-1952 0 12 0 1952-1953 0 13 0 1953-1954 0 14 0 1954-1955 0 15 0 1955-1956 0 16 1 1956-1957 0 17 1 1957-1958 0 18 0 1958-1959 0 19 0 1959-1960 0 20 5 1960-1961 0 21 1 1961-1962 0 22 3 1962-1963 0 23 1 1963-1964 0 24 1 1964-1965 0 25 2 1965-1966 0 26 0 1966-1967 0 27 4 1967-1968 0 28 0 1968-1969 0 29 5 1969-1970 0 30 0 1970-1971 0 31 3 1971-1972 0 32 1 1972-1973 0 33 0 1973-1974 0 34 0 1974-1975 0 35 0 1975-1976 0 36 4 1976-1977 0 37 0 1977-1978 0 38 6 1978-1979 0 39 0 1979-1980 0 40 0 1980-1981 0 41 4 1981-1982 0 42 0 1982-1983 0 43 6 1983-1984 0 44 3 1984-1985 0 45 0 1985-1986 0 46 2 1986-1987 0 47 0 1987-1988 0 48 0 1988-1989 0 49 2 1989-1990 0 50 0 1990-1991 0 51 0 1991-1992 0 52 0 1992-1993 0 53 6 1993-1994 0 54 1 1994-1995 0 55 2 1995-1996 0 56 0 1996-1997 0 57 0 1997-1998 0 58 0 1998-1999 0 59 0 1999-2000 0 60 0 2000-2001 0 61 0 2001-2002 0 62 0 2002-2003 0 63 1 2003-2004 0 64 0 2004-2005 0 65 0 2005-2006 0 66 0 2006-2007 0 67 0 2007-2008 0 68 1 2008-2009 0 69 0 2009-2010 0 70 0 2010-2011 0 71 0 2011-2012 0 72 0 2012-2013 0 Average 1.1 I can't believe DCA only dropped below 10 degrees 4 times in the 76/77 winter that's really hard to believe as cold as it was that year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 10p obs 2z RTMA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nj2va Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 17. Great weather to take Christmas lights down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 if it's going to radiate, this is the night http://weather.unisys.com/surface/sfc_con.php?image=pr&inv=0&t=cur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Down to 12.5 which is now low for the day,with a DP of 5.1 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 LWX graphical for tonight low forecast.. below 0 for good chunk of folks Tues am low at freezing probs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIC Airport Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Here is the pre-DCA location. I only took it out to 1945. Seasonal Rankings Station: WASHINGTON DC WB CITY State: MD ID: 189290 Latitude: 38.90 degrees Longitude: -77.05 degrees Elevation: 72 feet Station period of record: 04/01/1851-12/31/1965 Seasonal Rankings Creation time: 01/03/2014 22:09 EST Element: Min Temperature Units: degF Analysis: Num. of days<=9.0 Season: 7/1 - 6/30 Period of analysis: 1871 - 1946 Column delimiter: tab Rank Value Year Num. Missing 1 8 1872-1873 0 2 1 1873-1874 0 3 10 1874-1875 0 4 1 1875-1876 0 5 5 1876-1877 0 6 3 1877-1878 0 7 4 1878-1879 0 8 0 1879-1880 0 9 11 1880-1881 0 10 1 1881-1882 0 11 2 1882-1883 0 12 4 1883-1884 0 13 5 1884-1885 0 14 9 1885-1886 1 15 3 1886-1887 0 16 2 1887-1888 0 17 1 1888-1889 3 18 0 1889-1890 13 19 0 1890-1891 13 20 3 1891-1892 17 21 10 1892-1893 5 22 0 1893-1894 0 23 9 1894-1895 0 24 5 1895-1896 0 25 4 1896-1897 0 26 2 1897-1898 0 27 9 1898-1899 0 28 9 1899-1900 0 29 0 1900-1901 0 30 3 1901-1902 0 31 4 1902-1903 0 32 9 1903-1904 0 33 13 1904-1905 0 34 1 1905-1906 0 35 1 1906-1907 0 36 2 1907-1908 0 37 0 1908-1909 0 38 3 1909-1910 0 39 1 1910-1911 0 40 12 1911-1912 0 41 0 1912-1913 0 42 3 1913-1914 0 43 2 1914-1915 0 44 4 1915-1916 0 45 4 1916-1917 0 46 9 1917-1918 0 47 0 1918-1919 0 48 3 1919-1920 0 49 0 1920-1921 0 50 1 1921-1922 0 51 0 1922-1923 0 52 4 1923-1924 0 53 1 1924-1925 0 54 1 1925-1926 0 55 1 1926-1927 0 56 1 1927-1928 0 57 1 1928-1929 0 58 4 1929-1930 0 59 0 1930-1931 0 60 0 1931-1932 0 61 0 1932-1933 0 62 9 1933-1934 0 63 5 1934-1935 0 64 9 1935-1936 0 65 0 1936-1937 0 66 0 1937-1938 0 67 0 1938-1939 0 68 5 1939-1940 0 69 0 1940-1941 0 70 2 1941-1942 0 71 3 1942-1943 0 72 0 1943-1944 0 73 0 1944-1945 0 Average 3.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIC Airport Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I can't believe DCA only dropped below 10 degrees 4 times in the 76/77 winter that's really hard to believe as cold as it was that year 9°F January 13, 1977 3°F January 16, 1977 2°F January 17, 1977 8°F January 29, 1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yikes https://twitter.com/SteveRudinABC7/status/419296942338748416/photo/1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhineasC Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 About 8 degrees here. Feels great, but 18-20 is better. I can stay out in that no problem, especially with sun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Bouncing between 10.8 - 11.4. No single digit hits yet. Still cold air. Walked the dog for a couple miles dressed right and was fine. Loved the crunch and crisp. Rock solid wintry night wirh cold, snow, and ice. 8/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkpa25 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 -4F here in York, actually feels kind of nice. Clear as can be sky and no winds at all,wonder how far the temp will fall ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormpc Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Bouncing between 10.8 - 11.4. No single digit hits yet. Still cold air. Walked the dog for a couple miles dressed right and was fine. Loved the crunch and crisp. Rock solid wintry night wirh cold, snow, and ice. 8/10 just add some beers to the mix and its winter bliss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snow. Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 18 here...same as Duluth MN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HighStakes Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I don't know all the intricacies like Ian and others on the DCA station history and its period of record so I will have to let others comment if they wish. There is a period in the early to mid 1940s where observations were threaded between multiple stations for Washington, D.C and I'm not exactly sure exactly when that took place. My guess would be 1945 to 1946, but I don't know for sure. Anyway, below are the seasons and the number of days where the temperature dropped below 10°F at DCA. If you're like me for Richmond, you have most if not all snow event's memorized so this should help you identify where single digits or below might've taken place without snowcover. Also keep in mind that snowdepth data may be nonexistent prior to the 1940s for many stations. In the meantime, I will try to find the station pre-DCA and post accordingly. Threshold Exceedance Summary Station: WASHINGTON REAGAN AP State: VA ID: 448906 Latitude: 38.85 degrees Longitude: -77.03 degrees Elevation: 10 feet Station period of record: 08/01/1941-01/02/2014 Seasonal Rankings Creation time: 01/03/2014 21:59 EST Element: Min Temperature Units: degF Analysis: Num. of days<=9.0 Season: 7/1 - 6/30 Period of analysis: 1941 - 2014 Column delimiter: tab Rank Value Year Num. Missing 1 4 1941-1942 31 2 5 1942-1943 0 3 0 1943-1944 0 4 0 1944-1945 0 5 0 1945-1946 1 6 1 1946-1947 0 7 3 1947-1948 0 8 0 1948-1949 0 9 0 1949-1950 0 10 0 1950-1951 0 11 0 1951-1952 0 12 0 1952-1953 0 13 0 1953-1954 0 14 0 1954-1955 0 15 0 1955-1956 0 16 1 1956-1957 0 17 1 1957-1958 0 18 0 1958-1959 0 19 0 1959-1960 0 20 5 1960-1961 0 21 1 1961-1962 0 22 3 1962-1963 0 23 1 1963-1964 0 24 1 1964-1965 0 25 2 1965-1966 0 26 0 1966-1967 0 27 4 1967-1968 0 28 0 1968-1969 0 29 5 1969-1970 0 30 0 1970-1971 0 31 3 1971-1972 0 32 1 1972-1973 0 33 0 1973-1974 0 34 0 1974-1975 0 35 0 1975-1976 0 36 4 1976-1977 0 37 0 1977-1978 0 38 6 1978-1979 0 39 0 1979-1980 0 40 0 1980-1981 0 41 4 1981-1982 0 42 0 1982-1983 0 43 6 1983-1984 0 44 3 1984-1985 0 45 0 1985-1986 0 46 2 1986-1987 0 47 0 1987-1988 0 48 0 1988-1989 0 49 2 1989-1990 0 50 0 1990-1991 0 51 0 1991-1992 0 52 0 1992-1993 0 53 6 1993-1994 0 54 1 1994-1995 0 55 2 1995-1996 0 56 0 1996-1997 0 57 0 1997-1998 0 58 0 1998-1999 0 59 0 1999-2000 0 60 0 2000-2001 0 61 0 2001-2002 0 62 0 2002-2003 0 63 1 2003-2004 0 64 0 2004-2005 0 65 0 2005-2006 0 66 0 2006-2007 0 67 0 2007-2008 0 68 1 2008-2009 0 69 0 2009-2010 0 70 0 2010-2011 0 71 0 2011-2012 0 72 0 2012-2013 0 Average 1.1 Thanks for showing that chart, very interesting to look at. I'm not the best person to consult on DC records etc., but I'm pretty good with Baltimore. I do have a good recollection of most snow events and their dates even the minor ones so I usually will remember if snow was on the ground when major cold hit. Problem is I'm only 40 so I'm good from about 1979 onward and only know the history from before then by looking back at record and hearing stories. I did think of another major cold blast that didn't have snowcover. It was the first of the 2 frigid weekends in January 1982. That was on the 10th the same day as the famed AFC Championship game between Cinn. and San Diego. The second frigid weekend was the Sunday following the Air Florida disaster. That cold wave produced Baltimore's all time record low temp. of -7, but there was a significant snowpack on the ground for that one. I guess the whole point of this may be to say that having snowcover could be overrated as a must to achieve record cold or extreme cold. Interesting topic nonetheless. The 76/77 winter, despite being frigid, especially in January only produced seasonal snowfall totals of about 11/12 inches at both DCA and BWI. I would guess with that little amount of snowfall that some of the extreme cold days that year would have been without snowcover but I was too young to know for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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