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Big Snow threat, what will it do, part II


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Well I thought both the PV look and ridging ahead of the low seemed to argue a better solution to be honest.  Both looked  better than 18z.

 

It was better at the surface for impact in SNE on this 00z oper. run than the 18z, but it is still committing too much to that errant low that scoots out toward the NS waters ... evacuating dynamics seaward, just like we discussed earlier.   

 

Overall it's another sh!t run

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I'd take my chances.

 

This run is boring and lame.

Hopefully the EURO is still more robust.

 

 

You're setting your expectations pretty high for a solution that has probably a 1 in 3 shot at happening. Good batting average for baseball, but for meteorology it causes disappointment.

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It was a better at the surface for impact in SNE on this 00z oper. run than the 18z, but it is still committing too much to that errant low that scoots out toward the NS waters ... evacuating dynamics seaward, just like we discussed earlier.

Overall it's another sh!t run

Remember though there's been multiple instances already this season where weak, barely closed lows raced out in advance of the best upper support but still managed to mess up the overall parade.

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I understand the whole feedback thing, but it can be real too. Unless you are a meteorological God who can see everything..it's kind of early to trash a set of guidance based on previous performance.

 

The GFS has had a track record of doing this for a good 2-3 winters now with several storms, I think it was doing this with the 2/8 event last year with these multiple lows off NC and it did not finally catch on until about 2 days out...the NAM actually jumped on the Euro train before the GFS did...it would not surprise me if the same thing happens again here, it seems when the GFS struggles it struggles up until the 4th quarter...the Euro holding or even going more towards it previous idea will give me more confidence in believing the GFS is having issues with the evolution down there.

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The GFS has had a track record of doing this for a good 2-3 winters now with several storms, I think it was doing this with the 2/8 event last year with these multiple lows off NC and it did not finally catch on until about 2 days out...the NAM actually jumped on the Euro train before the GFS did...it would not surprise me if the same thing happens again here, it seems when the GFS struggles it struggles up until the 4th quarter...the Euro holding or even going more towards it previous idea will give me more confidence in believing the GFS is having issues with the evolution down there.

 

I know it struggles with it and it would not shock me for a tick north, but the trend is undeniable and yet it seems like some have blinders on.   

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I know it struggles with it and it would not shock me for a tick north, but the trend is undeniable and yet it seems like some have blinders on.   

Yea, the trend in the entirety of guidance is pronounced and undeniable.

 

Its why I feel ill.

 

CJ watch is in effect....should the next 24 hours worth of runs continue to suck, and focus most of the excitement on the beaches of the s shore, then the cj watch may have to be upgraded to a warning.

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Well hopefully the euro isn't caving too hard. The GFS op looked good and I would think it's similar or a bit better as far as the 00z euro op goes. The ukie and GEM have sh*t on themselves before in this range. I trust the GFS and Euro a lot more.

 

 

Both haven't been very good in our winter systems thus far this season...esp the GEM, its been horrific for some reason. I mean it's not supposed to be great, but it should be at least competent.

 

Regardless, there is plenty to like synoptically about this system...SNE is essentially in the mid-level crosshairs to varying degrees on every model run, so I think confidence is growing for at least a moderate event.

 

We'll hae to see if the Euro can lead the way with a larger event, or if it got too excited in the medium range for a couple runs. We've seen that before too.

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Yea, the trend in the entirety of guidance in pronounced and undeniable.

 

Its why I feel ill.

 

CJ watch is in effect....should the next 24 hours worth of runs continue to suck, and focus most of the excitement on the beaches of the s shore, then the cj watch may have to be upgraded to a warning.

Riding it out with messenger?

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Of course, but you also need to keep in mind the recent trends. I said earlier that we probably won't have a final answer until tomorrow night.

We have been trending from south to north and now its back down south. I dont know where it goes, never said i did. Frankly it doesnt matter what happens, this is a discussion/learning forum. Problem is, some people think this is a right vs wrong forum, and are too quick to put posts in a category.

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Both haven't been very good in our winter systems thus far this season...esp the GEM, its been horrific for some reason. I mean it's not supposed to be great, but it should be at least competent.

 

Regardless, there is plenty to like synoptically about this system...SNE is essentially in the mid-level crosshairs to varying degrees on every model run, so I think confidence is growing for at least a moderate event.

 

We'll hae to see if the Euro can lead the way with a larger event, or if it got too excited in the medium range for a couple runs. We've seen that before too.

 

I feel pretty good for a moderate event, here. I like the synoptic look and flow off the water for now. Considering it's been brown since before Christmas...I'll take it. 

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I wouldn't be surprised at a bump northwest as we get closer with all the circulation features...its hard to outrun a decent trough like that, but there's some speed divegence out ahead.

 

I do think regardless, that the initial isentropic upglide looks pretty darn good. That could definitely over perform.

That's where my money lies
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