Harry Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 That's false, most of the all-time low records for both my area and northern Ontario have been set in February. Toronto shouldn't be any different. Ryan Maue as well, starting to post maps showing the next polar vortex in the medium-long range. I've been reading Ryan's twitter feed by far the most, the best currently. I'm in favor of another PV since that always means a lot of snow for myself (lakes). Same thing here oddly enough. Coldest daytime high ( -6 ) and coldest low ( -24 on 12th of Feb ) were both set in Feb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 You think the media coverage of the polar vortex was bad now...imagine if it pays another visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 The only thing I have noticed about polar vortex's is this, they are usually followed by a warmup. Its almost as if the arctic "blows it load" so to speak. 1994 was followed by a torch like 5 days later, we aren't going to torch, but its going to go zonal for a few days. Just a thought. I have noticed that too. It is like a pattern reset button has been pressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I have noticed that too. It is like a pattern reset button has been pressed. I looked back at 1994 and it wasn't really a torch in Lansing, more so in Detroit. Not much of a torch, I deleted that post after giving it a second look. The euro shows a massive cold outbreak in its 240hr timeframe.... The operational euro is actually quite a bit cooler this weekend and beyond compared to the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I looked back at 1994 and it wasn't really a torch in Lansing, more so in Detroit. Not much of a torch, I deleted that post after giving it a second look. The euro shows a massive cold outbreak in its 240hr timeframe.... The operational euro is actually quite a bit cooler this weekend and beyond compared to the GFS. Nice... at least we get a break.. This evening it was 0F and I thought it was comfortable outside (at least compared to yesterday)...getting acclimated to this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 -5°/-10° at UGN. Getting tired of this. Hoping JB and Ryan are wrong about the vortex paying another visit. I know however, until you get past the first 10 days of February, you can still have lows that push -10°. Edit: Bounced back up to -2°. Dewpoint rising too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 After JUST missing the record snow January 1st, Detroit smashed the record snow for January 5th (10.2"), smashed the record low January 6th (-14F), and smashed the record low January 7th (-14F), as well as should also break the record low max today. the cold is just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Same thing here oddly enough. Coldest daytime high ( -6 ) and coldest low ( -24 on 12th of Feb ) were both set in Feb. I read recently in David Ludlum's "Early American winters" that early February has often been the coldest time of the year as by that time Hudson Bay has completely frozen over meaning air masses have less of a chance to modify as they move south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Back down to -6 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Near steady at -2°, -3°. Dewpoint up to -6°. Average dewpoint yesterday was -22°. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 It's a balmy 13 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sokolow Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 6F on the southside but the dead calm makes it a huge relief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Looks like the high will be 1 after a low of -11 at KBTL.. Gives us a daily average of -5 which is a new record for the date and the 2nd coldest ever for the month of January.. The high temp of 1 also set a new daily record and ties the record for coldest Jan high temp. The low temp was a daily record as well.. The old record was -9. Not too shabby.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevlon62 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Back down to -13 here. Only about three degrees warmer than similar times the last two mornings. Calm though so little/no wind chill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
magoos0728 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 -11 here....back to school kiddos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Down to -10 here...not bad. Another good radiational cooling setup tonight should give us our 5th subzero low in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Around -8° here. Wind is pretty calm this morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmett Brown Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 Bottomed out at -15 here. Quit an amazing cold spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'm ready for Morch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'm ready for Morch. I second that! 52 days. Up to 0° already. Well ahead of yesterday's pace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 I'm ready for Morch. ha ha... we still have all of Jan and Feb to contend with! its early man We get a break this weekend... -11F here this morning...calm winds help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitelakeroy Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I looked back at 1994 and it wasn't really a torch in Lansing, more so in Detroit. Not much of a torch, I deleted that post after giving it a second look. The euro shows a massive cold outbreak in its 240hr timeframe.... The operational euro is actually quite a bit cooler this weekend and beyond compared to the GFS. There was a torch in mid-Feb 1994 (18th and 19th I believe) I know some record high were broken with temps in the 50s in the UP. I was a Tech that year. We had a 40"+ snow pack that took a major hit. Superior was frozen (or nearly frozen) over so LES was done for the season. That was a painful to have to wait for actual system snows when you are used to daily LES!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 There was a torch in mid-Feb 1994 (18th and 19th I believe) I know some record high were broken with temps in the 50s in the UP. I was a Tech that year. We had a 40"+ snow pack that took a major hit. Superior was frozen (or nearly frozen) over so LES was done for the season. That was a painful to have to wait for actual system snows when you are used to daily LES!!! I remember that torch. It was followed by a huge snowstorm on the 23rd. I remember Scouts was cancelled that evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Excellent write up by Dtx, ton of graphics http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=dtx&storyid=99484&source=0 And Josh's picture! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 I noticed a few things a couple days ago Unfortunately the RTMA plots on the NCEP site have color tables that are weird. Areas of Lake Huron and Lake Superior, near the deep parts, were at 20. Some of SE Michigan was at -16. Lake Michigan was at -8 to +8. Lake Erie was at -12 to +8. I believe the RTMA has the lake ice cover as an input to the model. sounding near Toledo---- looks very cold aloft. Perhaps one of the lowest 1000-500 thicknesses ever in Toledo 100 knots at 700mb. I don't think I've seen this. ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blue60007 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iPbihuzPc&list=TLtev2agKCtxjaUYPxm0yyfsz0hZizAnuJ&noredirect=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Well thats new Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5iPbihuzPc&list=TLtev2agKCtxjaUYPxm0yyfsz0hZizAnuJ&noredirect=1 Wow that's amazing stuff there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted January 9, 2014 Share Posted January 9, 2014 Get some pins! Do a little ice bowling there. haha Fascinating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beavis1729 Posted February 7, 2017 Share Posted February 7, 2017 Here is a recent paper on the January 2014 arctic outbreak. Although it has a lot of typos and grammatical errors (does anyone edit papers these days??), it's a good read. 06Jan2014.pdf I never realized how impressive the January 1982 arctic outbreaks were. On 1/10/1982, 850 mb temps dropped to -34C in southern IL. Then, a week later, the northern Plans saw an 850 mb temp of -42C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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