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There's almost no way the Euro from last night will verify IMO.. sure you can say that for pretty much any run at this range but the way it comes together is pretty unlikely around here. I guess in the cup half full version is gives us legit hope for something to happen v nothing.

 

that is the problem...the euro gave us the perfect solution 5 days out...and as you say it is a tricky sequence....

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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION
NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD
1018 AM EST SAT DEC 28 2013

VALID 12Z TUE DEC 31 2013 - 12Z SAT JAN 04 2014


...BITTER COLD TO INVADE THE UPPER MIDWEST, GREAT LAKES, AND
NORTHEAST...
...INCREASING CHANCES FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW FOR THE ATLANTIC
STATES...


THE ANTICIPATED MERIDIONAL EVENT OVER NORTH AMERICA AT THE MEDIUM
RANGE APPEARS INEVITABLE AT THIS POINT. USED THE 00Z/28 ECENS MEAN
AS A SYNOPTIC GUIDE THIS FORECAST, BASED ON ITS STRONG CONTINUITY
AND THE EMERGENCE OF A DOMINANT MEMBER CLUSTER WITHIN ITS ENVELOPE
OF SOLUTIONS. THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DEEP EASTERN TROUGH SEALS THE
ONGOING DRY FATE FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES, WITH ONLY THE
FAR PACIFIC NORTHWEST REMAINING VULNERABLE TO THE PASSAGE OF
NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES.

A ONE-TWO WINTRY PUNCH IS INDICATED BY THE ECENS MEAN OVER THE
EAST--THE ARCTIC OUTBREAK FOLLOWED BY A SNOWY WAVE LIFTING FROM
THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. THE
ARCTIC OUTBREAK IS MORE CERTAIN, WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING WELL
BELOW ZERO IN BOTH THE UPPER MIDWEST AND INTERIOR SECTIONS OF THE
NORTHEAST--INCLUDING THE UPPER HUDSON VALLEY. THE CANADIAN BORDER
OF NORTHERN NEW YORK, THE NORTHEAST KINGDOM OF VERMONT, AND
NORTHERN MAINE LOOK PARTICULARLY COLD NEXT THURSDAY. THE CHANCE
FOR SNOW FROM THE INTERIOR SOUTHEAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND
THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY IS LESS CERTAIN, ALTHOUGH MORE THAN HALF
OF THE 00Z/28 ECENS MEMBERS SHOW UNEQUIVOCAL ACCUMULATING SNOW FOR
PLACES LIKE WASHINGTON, DC, WHERE A "SNOW DROUGHT" OF SORTS HAS
MARKED THE LAST FEW WINTERS. THE SEPARATION BETWEEN SHORTWAVES
OVER THE EAST LATE NEXT WEEK WILL DETERMINE WHO GETS WINTRY
PRECIPITATION AND HOW MUCH FALLS. SHOULD BE ABLE TO BETTER REFINE
THIS ASPECT OF THE FORECAST IN THE NEXT FEW MODEL CYCLES.


CISCO

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no easy win with this one, as with most....especially with the Miller B possibility...it is always possible the northern stream just pushes everything out of the way..Plus it is 5 days before the snow starts and the models don't have a lot of skill from this range, esp with details....so we'll be tracking this one til it's close....it isn't like the southern stream event in early december when the models locked in early.....there is too much tricky stream interaction...

I agree, I don't see that the probability for an inch during the week has changed much since I wrote my article...still in the 30-40 percent range.   If the euro keeps to its guns through Monday,  then I'll get excited.  Otherwise, it and its ensembles are still one of many solutions.  The arctic air makes it an interesting set up if we can get enough amplitude to track a vort south of us.

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EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION

NWS WEATHER PREDICTION CENTER COLLEGE PARK MD

1018 AM EST SAT DEC 28 2013

VALID 12Z TUE DEC 31 2013 - 12Z SAT JAN 04 2014

...BITTER COLD TO INVADE THE UPPER MIDWEST, GREAT LAKES, AND

NORTHEAST...

...INCREASING CHANCES FOR ACCUMULATING SNOW FOR THE ATLANTIC

STATES...

THE ANTICIPATED MERIDIONAL EVENT OVER NORTH AMERICA AT THE MEDIUM

RANGE APPEARS INEVITABLE AT THIS POINT. USED THE 00Z/28 ECENS MEAN

AS A SYNOPTIC GUIDE THIS FORECAST, BASED ON ITS STRONG CONTINUITY

AND THE EMERGENCE OF A DOMINANT MEMBER CLUSTER WITHIN ITS ENVELOPE

OF SOLUTIONS. THE ACCEPTANCE OF A DEEP EASTERN TROUGH SEALS THE

ONGOING DRY FATE FOR THE SOUTHWESTERN UNITED STATES, WITH ONLY THE

FAR PACIFIC NORTHWEST REMAINING VULNERABLE TO THE PASSAGE OF

NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVES.

A ONE-TWO WINTRY PUNCH IS INDICATED BY THE ECENS MEAN OVER THE

EAST--THE ARCTIC OUTBREAK FOLLOWED BY A SNOWY WAVE LIFTING FROM

THE EASTERN GULF OF MEXICO NEXT THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY. THE

ARCTIC OUTBREAK IS MORE CERTAIN, WITH TEMPERATURES FALLING WELL

BELOW ZERO IN BOTH THE UPPER MIDWEST AND INTERIOR SECTIONS OF THE

NORTHEAST--INCLUDING THE UPPER HUDSON VALLEY. THE CANADIAN BORDER

OF NORTHERN NEW YORK, THE NORTHEAST KINGDOM OF VERMONT, AND

NORTHERN MAINE LOOK PARTICULARLY COLD NEXT THURSDAY. THE CHANCE

FOR SNOW FROM THE INTERIOR SOUTHEAST TO SOUTHERN NEW ENGLAND

THURSDAY NIGHT AND FRIDAY IS LESS CERTAIN, ALTHOUGH MORE THAN HALF

OF THE 00Z/28 ECENS MEMBERS SHOW UNEQUIVOCAL ACCUMULATING SNOW FOR

PLACES LIKE WASHINGTON, DC, WHERE A "SNOW DROUGHT" OF SORTS HAS

MARKED THE LAST FEW WINTERS. THE SEPARATION BETWEEN SHORTWAVES

OVER THE EAST LATE NEXT WEEK WILL DETERMINE WHO GETS WINTRY

PRECIPITATION AND HOW MUCH FALLS. SHOULD BE ABLE TO BETTER REFINE

THIS ASPECT OF THE FORECAST IN THE NEXT FEW MODEL CYCLES.

CISCO

good to see that NOAA is on board at least with the possibility

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I agree, I don't see that the probability for an inch during the week has changed much since I wrote my article...still in the 30-40 percent range.   If the euro keeps to its guns through Monday,  then I'll get excited.  Otherwise, it and its ensembles are still one of many solutions.  The arctic air makes it an interesting set up if we can get enough amplitude to track a vort south of us.

 

This is what we need. At least for those of us to NW. At least it seems likely that temps will not be an issue for anyone. Hopefully the vort is stronger than the models are depicting.

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