sferic Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Hi, I live both in Nassau County on Long Island and on vacation in Liberty NY in the Catskills. I now have the opportunity to move, actually selling my Long Island home (Liberty NY home too small to live in full time). My question is this: Where would be the best county in NY Starte to live in to meet the following: 1) Elevation (when it matters in snow vs rain) 2) Earliest and latest snowfall possible. 3) Does well with Lake Effect Snows 4) Does well with NorEasters. 5) Huge seasonal snowfall averages. If any county meets 4 out of the 5 that's where I'll move to. Thanks in advance, jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BxEngine Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 Oswego and Lewis meet 4 out of the 5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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PB GFI Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 North Redfield , NY maxes out I think . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chietanen Posted December 23, 2013 Share Posted December 23, 2013 In general, I don't think the favored areas for lake effect snow do well in Noreasters. The Lake Ontario shoreline usually does the best in those events, but they don't have anywhere near the annual snow totals of Lewis/Oswego or Chautauqua/Cattaraugus counties. My mother lives in Mayville. It's an adorable little town on Lake Chautauqua on the Chautauqua Ridge. Very close to the Chautauqua Institute, which is a great place to visit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 23, 2013 Author Share Posted December 23, 2013 Looking at potentially Deleware County..now should it be northern, Southern, Eastern or Western Deleware County ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pasnownut Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Lewis County. I snowmobile that area (which is known as the Tug Hill Plateau). Southern Tug from Osceola/Redfield all the way up to Barnes Corners, Adam Center, Turin are all great areas. Enjoy. Nut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Just curious too, In NY state, what town with a houses for actual sale is located at the highest elevation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreeRain Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Oswego and Lewis meet 4 out of the 5. Yup. I even lived in one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I would think the tug hill plateau. I think some areas there got 400 inches in 77/78. Lake Ontario I deep and doesn't freeze like Erie. So in super cold winters lake effect is insane! Plus the elevation and further east then Erie for synoptic events and coastals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Just curious too, In NY state, what town with a houses for actual sale is located at the highest elevation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongBeachSurfFreak Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I would think the central Catskills you can get a house above 2k. Some of the ski resorts in Vermont have sick ski up house that are up to the 3k range Stratton comes to mind but we are talking big bucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Heaviest snowfall annually in NY State is east of Lake Ontario & Watertown in the Adirondacks. Mt Marcy, the highest point in the state, has an elevation above 5000'. Towns such as Old Forge are among the snowiest. Snow is of the lake effect & synoptic variety. Annual snowfall maxes out around 180 inches, though, obviously, some local spots average even more. Chautauqua County & Cattaraugus County (south of Buffalo) are the secondary maximum for snowfall in NY state. Most of the snow there is of the lake effect variety. Seasonal average approaches 150 inches with the maximum centered around a little town called New Albion. These are some of the snowiest locations east of the Rocky Mountains; rivaled only by the U.P. of Michigan and the mountains of northern New England. The worst counties for snow (in case anyone did not already know) would be the 5 boroughs of New York City, Nassau & Suffolk counties. Westchester would probably be 8th on the list & Rockland 9th. There is also a secondary minimum north of Buffalo & Niagara Falls where annual snowfall is only around 40 inches. This spot consistently misses most lake effect snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikehobbyst Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Hi, I live both in Nassau County on Long Island and on vacation in Liberty NY in the Catskills. I now have the opportunity to move, actually selling my Long Island home (Liberty NY home too small to live in full time). My question is this: Where would be the best county in NY Starte to live in to meet the following: 1) Elevation (when it matters in snow vs rain) 2) Earliest and latest snowfall possible. 3) Does well with Lake Effect Snows 4) Does well with NorEasters. 5) Huge seasonal snowfall averages. If any county meets 4 out of the 5 that's where I'll move to. Thanks in advance, jeff You better love seeing snowbanks to 35 feet for five to six months constant, and not get sick of it. Bare trees till mid to late May, do you really want that ? Belly button high snow for what its worth. Long Island is just fine to me, and glad we do not usually see wire to wire snowpack for 5 months, that would get on my nerves and old eventually. NEMO or the 2/8/13 blizzard was enough for me last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masomenos Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 I'd look into the northwestern Catskills. They tend to get the best of all worlds with good hits from nor'easters and the occasional lake effect dump when the right conditions allow for those mega bands/streamers. Definitely better year-round weather, too, as they don't have as much of that depressing overcast that lingers throughout most of the year like the more immediate lake areas. My favorite region, the Adirondacks, can be a little snow starved at times, but with a little elevation you are approaching near sub-arctic climo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 24, 2013 Share Posted December 24, 2013 Looking at potentially Deleware County..now should it be northern, Southern, Eastern or Western Deleware County ? Doesn't look terribly impressive wrt to snow. I hope you would choose somewhere nw and AOA 1500' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sferic Posted December 24, 2013 Author Share Posted December 24, 2013 Heaviest snowfall annually in NY State is east of Lake Ontario & Watertown in the Adirondacks. Mt Marcy, the highest point in the state, has an elevation above 5000'. Towns such as Old Forge are among the snowiest. Snow is of the lake effect & synoptic variety. Annual snowfall maxes out around 180 inches, though, obviously, some local spots average even more. Chautauqua County & Cattaraugus County (south of Buffalo) are the secondary maximum for snowfall in NY state. Most of the snow there is of the lake effect variety. Seasonal average approaches 150 inches with the maximum centered around a little town called New Albion. These are some of the snowiest locations east of the Rocky Mountains; rivaled only by the U.P. of Michigan and the mountains of northern New England. The worst counties for snow (in case anyone did not already know) would be the 5 boroughs of New York City, Nassau & Suffolk counties. Westchester would probably be 8th on the list & Rockland 9th. There is also a secondary minimum north of Buffalo & Niagara Falls where annual snowfall is only around 40 inches. This spot consistently misses most lake effect snow. Thank you for the wonderful write up William. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 Thank you for the wonderful write up William. You're very welcome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted December 25, 2013 Share Posted December 25, 2013 You're very welcome It's west of the Adirondacks in the Tug Hill Plateau where seasonal snowfall is highest, near 250" at the highest elevations which approach 2000'. I'd say the Tug averages a lot more than the Adirondacks, which have a circular shape geographically that discourages large amounts of upslope. The Adirondacks are pretty dry.I think most of Delaware County averages 70-75" unless you're right along the Delaware River. Averages there are more like 60". My parents have a place in Lake Como that's at 1500' and probably gets around 70" per year. Snow retention is excellent. Big difference between Lake Como at 1550' and Hancock or Honesdale PA down in the valley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted December 26, 2013 Share Posted December 26, 2013 It's west of the Adirondacks in the Tug Hill Plateau where seasonal snowfall is highest, near 250" at the highest elevations which approach 2000'. I'd say the Tug averages a lot more than the Adirondacks, which have a circular shape geographically that discourages large amounts of upslope. The Adirondacks are pretty dry. I think most of Delaware County averages 70-75" unless you're right along the Delaware River. Averages there are more like 60". My parents have a place in Lake Como that's at 1500' and probably gets around 70" per year. Snow retention is excellent. Big difference between Lake Como at 1550' and Hancock or Honesdale PA down in the valley. Wrt the dacks i would agree White face is best suited for upslope , and @4500' is prolly pretty solid for 175 + but thats not inhabitable. For the big numbers tug hill is king and further west areas (under lake effect gun w/o (tug elevation are second) . U need alot from lake effect to be "very" snowy in NY. I would add some places in dacks around 2k get 100" and have great retention. Further N in elevated valley saranac lake sees 115-120 and has great retention too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
manhattanandcatskills Posted December 27, 2013 Share Posted December 27, 2013 I have a place in central Delaware County, a little over 2000 ft. We average just about 100 inches a year. The lake effect, overall, is pretty minor; however, it can lightly snow (being at the end of the streamers) for days on end over a long lasting snow pack. There have been a few severe lake events with whiteouts, several inches, but nothing like the Tug, etc. We do very well in noreasters, and have had great elevation dependent jackpots, particularly in October and April. We've had dustings of snow in May several times--last year I saw some rouge flakes Memorial Day weekend. It's also a beautiful place to live that is under 3 hours from the GWB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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