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Yeah alot of people seem to be interested in snow and not much else.

 

The very cold air gets old fast although I definitely enjoyed tracking the record cold earlier this month, but again after a while it becomes more of a nuisance/inconvenience than anything else. A storm on the other hand is far more exciting to track and go through even when it's just a minor or moderate event. 

 

The same goes for extreme heat in the summer, it's exciting from a historical standpoint but it quickly gets old and we're far more interested in severe weather than the heat. 

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The very cold air gets old fast although I definitely enjoyed tracking the record cold earlier this month, but again after a while it becomes more of a nuisance/inconvenience than anything else. A storm on the other hand is far more exciting to track and go through even when it's just a minor or moderate event. 

 

The same goes for extreme heat in the summer, it's exciting from a historical standpoint but it quickly gets old and we're far more interested in severe weather than the heat.

No doubt the snow makes everything more exciting... I've been keeping weather records for over 30 years at my station and tracking extreme cold is one of my likes.
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No doubt the snow makes everything more exciting... I've been keeping weather records for over 30 years at my station and tracking extreme cold is one of my likes.

I like the Euro and the gfs ensembles which are cold day 10 thru 15. Think the alarm bell got pulled too fast today.

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No doubt the snow makes everything more exciting... I've been keeping weather records for over 30 years at my station and tracking extreme cold is one of my likes.

 

Walking to the school bus stop during  January 1977 and February 1979 was  as cold as I have experienced here.

The winter 76-77 was extended cold with with mostly nickel and dime snow events. But February 79 delivered

the cold and PD1. I would have liked to been around for Feb 34 record cold and snow. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Walking to the school bus stop during January 1977 and February 1979 was as cold as I have experienced here.

The winter 76-77 was extended cold with with mostly nickel and dime snow events. But February 79 delivered

the cold and PD1. I would have liked to been around for Feb 34 record cold and snow.

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I think you mean feb 78 no? If not I haven't really heard of feb 79 being great but then again I wasn't born yet

I would have loved to see feb 34 when people drove cars across the GSB to fire island!

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I think you mean feb 78 no? If not I haven't really heard of feb 79 being great but then again I wasn't born yet

I would have loved to see feb 34 when people drove cars across the GSB to fire island!

 

Jan-Feb 78 were great for snow and ice. But February 1979 featured the coldest week that I have experienced 

here with the President's Day storm right at the end. January 1977 was the coldest month.

 

top 5 coldest weeks since 1960:

 

Week/Average Temperature(F)

1/6-1/12........1968....12.2

2/12-2/18......1979....12.7

1/15-1/21......1994....13.9

1/20-1/26......1961....15.5

1/12-1/18.....1977.....15.9

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I think you mean feb 78 no? If not I haven't really heard of feb 79 being great but then again I wasn't born yet

I would have loved to see feb 34 when people drove cars across the GSB to fire island!

 

February 1979 (PD I) was a great snowstorm as one moved to the southwest of NYC and a very middling storm to the northeast of NYC.  It was the highlight of a very cold month.

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Walking to the school bus stop during  January 1977 and February 1979 was  as cold as I have experienced here.

The winter 76-77 was extended cold with with mostly nickel and dime snow events. But February 79 delivered

the cold and PD1. I would have liked to been around for Feb 34 record cold and snow. 

 

attachicon.gifpresidentsday_blizzard_1979.gif

You may enjoy this article:

 

http://www.garymay.ca/article18.htm

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February 1979 (PD I) was a great snowstorm as one moved to the southwest of NYC and a very middling storm to the northeast of NYC.  It was the highlight of a very cold month.

Absolutely. Some accumulations:

 

Bridgeport: 2.6"

New York City: 12.7"

Newark: 16.6"

Philadelphia: 14.3"

Providence: Trace

Washington, DC: 18.7"

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15 day periods with 15" of snow and one 10" snowfall with average temps 32.0 or lower........

15 day period........ave temp max/min precip snow B.S. max snow depth...
Feb22-Mar 8.....1941..31.5..51..17..2.36"..22.1"..18.1"..18"

Feb. 7-21..........1947..30.6..49..10..1.51"..15.9"..10.7"...10"

Dec23-Jan.6.1947-48..29.7..37..18..4.55"..32.1"..26.4"...26"

Dec 14-28.........1948..30.8..51..10..2.70"..21.3"..16.0"...16"

Mar. 3-17.........1960..27.5..42..14..1.40"..16.4"..14.5"...14"

Dec 11-25........1960..25.8..49....8..2.50"..16.6"..15.2"...15"
Jan21-Feb 4.....1961..17.5..34...-2..2.97"..22.5"..17.4"...25"

Feb 6-20..........1967..27.7..60....4..1.73"..18.9"..12.5"...14"

Feb 9-23..........1969..31.7..43..17..2.47"..16.3"..15.3"...15"

Jan 9-23...........1978..26.1..58..12..5.45"..19.3"..13.6"..14"
Feb 1-15..........1978..24.9..37..10..1.50"..21.9"..17.7"..18"

Feb 5-19..........1979..16.5..34....0..1.38"..20.1"..12.7"..16"

Jan30-Feb13....1994..25.8..46....7..2.45"..22.4"..12.8"..21"

Jan 2-16...........1996..24.2..41....6..3.41"..25.2"..20.2"..21"
Feb 2-16..........1996..27.1..49....5..1.41"..20.4"..10.7"..10"

Dec22-Jan5.....00-01..25.2..34..14..1.12"..14.6"..12.0"..12"

Feb. 5-19.........2003..25.6..41....8..2.32"..26.1"..19.8"..20"

Jan. 14-28........2004..20.0..39....1..1.36"..16.8"..10.3"..12"

Jan. 16-30........2005..20.5..38....5..1.27"..15.3"..13.8"..14"

Feb 2-16..........2010..31.2..42..17..1.86"..16.0"..10.0"..10"

Dec 14-28........2010..29.3..40..19..1.62"..20.1"..20.0"..20"
Jan. 13-27........2011..27.0..41...6...3.70"..25.2"..19.0"..23"


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You may enjoy this article:

 

http://www.garymay.ca/article18.htm

 

Great Article. The 2-9 Arctic blast when NYC  fell -15 also set the high pressure record in Pittsburgh.

That was probably the coldest reading in NYC since Jan 1780 which had a report of -16. 

 

Pittsburgh 30.97 2/9/1934

 

http://www.nytimes.com/1996/02/06/nyregion/but-what-about-february-9-1934.html

 

By coincidence, Feb. 9, 1934, was the 64th birthday of the old Weather Bureau. On that day for reminiscing, meteorologists noted that the previous all-time low for New York City was minus 13, recorded on Dec. 30, 1917. One meteorologist ventured that Feb. 9 was the coldest day in New York since the American Revolution.

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With accumulating snow ? Looks like under an inch or just a snow shower

After today I'm not dismissing any SW that comes thru the flow where the air is minus 15 at 850

There aren't any big storms on any single model but places in New England got 3 to 6 inches today and that wasn't modeled

3 days ago

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I'm not writing that tues deal off until 00Z wed, its too close. Could it miss, sure, but its not like there's nothing there

 

It's the sort of system that can often sneak up on you when you try to dismiss it. If the energy were to dig and amplify a bit more than we'd probably be talking 2-4" type deal if not a bit more given higher ratios. 

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What we need is for the pattern to break on the west coast.

No storms at all near SCA that could form a nice southern storm.

Pattern is awful.

Honestly the worst long range storm pattern in years for snow storms.

Lol how could the models turn it from one of the best patterns in years for snow storm to one of the worst in a matter of two days?

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18z GFS. The entire week 2 torch look is gone The trough does relax and it pulls back day 11 thru 13 but by Super Bowl weekend the trough heads back east

As it is the 15 day period still averages below normal. Even with the pullback for a few days.

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