Harry Perry Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 I'm in the NW end of that MD about the freezing rain rates of .10/hr. Right now I think we are just straight rain though. It's been raining since noon and I've seen very little accreditation since then. My Kestrel thermomenter has us at 32.4, while the local observation at the airport (3 miles away) has us at 31. No doubt we have more ZR in store as the day moves on, but so far it's not been terrible. This is all bonus rain... Wasn't supposed to start until 6 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torontonian Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Same report in Forest Hill. Had some 4cm long icicles on signs and tree branches. I'd say about 0.5 cm of accreted ice on tree branches, looks very pretty I must say. Nothing on sidewalks or anything low, though. Not a single icicle along Bloor St, though It was incredible this morning up in North York. Sidewalks were completely glazed over and preserved with ice with nearly 1cm of accreted ice. Never seen that before I am around Queens Park in T.O. Was about +0.6 most morning here and bit of melting. Now 0 exactly and ice starting to accumulate a bit branches, etc.. Temp is slowly dropping still......not good. Found hitting pan and zooming in on downtown T.O with this radar most accurate after being out and about and witnessing and verifying. http://www.intellicast.com/National/Radar/Current.aspx?location=USNY0124 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 10,000 without power in Picton, ON (near Belleville) They've seen 2cm of ice accretion around there. 20 mms out on Prince Edward already? wow. btw, latest obs provide some added intrigue in Southern Ontario. 21Z obs are hinting at -FZRASN over in YPQ (Peterborough) and implied as such over at YOO (Oshawa). As well, freezing rain at 24F/-4C in Kingston and 28f/-2c with frz rain with winds being estimated due to ice accretion at CFB-Trenton. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Goes posting snowfall percentile maps. Here's the 2"+ and 4"+ probability maps. Looks a little more realistic... 2" probs.png 4" probs.png That's from the HPC. I figured it was legit. Then we have these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 What's the link to those products again? http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/pwpf/wwd_accum_probs.php?fpd=24&ptype=snow&amt=1&day=1&ftype=probabilities Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 15z 12hr mean FWIW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/pwpf/wwd_accum_probs.php?fpd=24&ptype=snow&amt=1&day=1&ftype=probabilities Thanks. Do you happen to know the link for the other weather.gov products that are plotted on Google Earth maps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 impressive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Wasn't really excited by the accretion so far here (finally began about an hour ago) so I went for a drive in search of some better ice. Amazing how sharp a gradient can be. Drove a mere 4 kilometers north and trees had a solid ice coating. Drove about another 6 kilometers north (401 and Trafalgar) and encountered at least 1cm of ice down already on trees and fences etc. Incredible. And this event is just getting going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Burlington Lift Bridge now seeing a temperature drop. 0.3C still 0.7C at Toronto Island. looking from that intellicast map you can really see that the QE is the divider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mississaugasnow Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Wasn't really excited by the accretion so far here (finally began about an hour ago) so I went for a drive in search of some better ice. Amazing how sharp a gradient can be. Drove a mere 4 kilometers north and trees had a solid ice coating. Drove about another 6 kilometers north (401 and Trafalgar) and encountered at least 1cm of ice down already on trees and fences etc. Incredible. And this event is just getting going. Nice photos. How are the roads up that way? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Thanks. Do you happen to know the link for the other weather.gov products that are plotted on Google Earth maps? That I don't know. I gotta say nice pictures Mississauga, but I wouldn't want to deal with it. Take care there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Nice photos. How are the roads up that way? Roads not terrible yet, but I was mostly on treated roads. Untreated roads and parking lots getting a good coating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Wasn't really excited by the accretion so far here (finally began about an hour ago) so I went for a drive in search of some better ice. Amazing how sharp a gradient can be. Drove a mere 4 kilometers north and trees had a solid ice coating. Drove about another 6 kilometers north (401 and Trafalgar) and encountered at least 1cm of ice down already on trees and fences etc. Incredible. And this event is just getting going. Freezing rain all day north of the 401. Power is going to be very out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuanis Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Light rain has just started. 33 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boogieman Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Got back around 4:30 or so from picking up some gas and a couple last-minute things. Krogers was PACKED! The temps then, in the van, was 33-34. Nothing was icing at that point, but we had a decent rain falling for a few. Just went out to lay some salt down and the metal objects are starting to ice up. 31.0 degrees IMBY. And so it begins. According to Intellicast radar, there's a bit of snow falling now in the next county west and the extreme NW corner of Genesee county. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Getting some very light freezing rain here now. More like freezing sprinkles. 28 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madwx Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Some freezing drizzle occurring northwest of Madison. Wasn't expecting this before the main event but the low levels must be fairly saturated. 27/24 at MSN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 RPM shifted south a bit with the 2-4" and 4-6" area. Newest disco from LOT. ...WINTER STORM...THROUGH TOMORROW AFTERNOON...HEADLINE NOTES...WILL ALLOW THE FREEZING RAIN ADVISORY TO EXPIRE AT4PM FOR EAST CENTRAL ILLINOIS COUNTIES.THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROM LASALLE COUNTY TO CHICAGO WILL BELEFT AS IS TO EXPIRE AT 10PM. HOWEVER...THE EVENING SHIFT MAY NEEDTO CONSIDER EXTENDING AT LEAST PARTS OF THE ADVISORY TO SUNDAYMORNING PENDING TRENDS WITH SLEET/FREEZING RAIN OR DRIZZLETHIS EVENING FOLLOWED BY LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS LATE TONIGHTTHROUGH SUNDAY MORNING.THE WINTER STORM WARNING AND NORTHERN PORTION OF THE WINTER WEATHERADVISORY (LAKE AND KANE) WILL NOW BE STARTED AT 6PM AS MOSTSIGNIFICANT IMPACTS ARE NOT EXPECTED UNTIL LATER THIS EVENING.DETAILS...INTERESTINGLY ENOUGH...GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO BE SPLIT ON EVOLUTIONOF THIS SYSTEM EVEN AT THIS LATE HOUR...WITH THE 18Z NAM SHIFTINGSOUTHEAST WITH TRACK OF UPPER LEVEL AND SURFACE LOW CLOSER TOGFS/ECMWF SOLUTIONS. HOWEVER...THE OVERALL THEME REMAINS CONSISTENTIN FOCUSING THE HEAVIEST SNOWS INTO NORTH CENTRAL AND PORTIONS OFFAR NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS DESPITE THIS CONTINUED VARIANCE.THE WARM CONVEYOR BELT PRECIPITATION WILL CONTINUE TO STREAM INTOAREAS PRIMARILY ALONG AND SOUTH OF MENDOTA TO CHICAGO LINE INTOEARLY THIS EVENING...BUT JUST SKIRTING THE NORTHERN CWA. THERMALPROFILES ARE QUITE COMPLEX...WITH A WARM NOSE OF OVER 4C EVIDENT ONA RECENT ORD AIRCRAFT SOUNDING JUST BELOW 800 MB. AS THEPRECIPITATION WORKS ITS WAY NORTH...THIS WILL COOL SOME WITHSATURATION BUT STILL ENOUGH TO AT LEAST PARTIALLY MELT ICE CRYSTALS.SO AREAS WEST OF CHICAGO ARE IN LINE FOR SLEET OR FREEZINGRAIN/PLAIN RAIN THIS EVENING WHERE IT IS LIKELY TO REMAIN ABOVEFREEZING/INCLUDING DOWNTOWN CHICAGO. ICE ACCUMULATIONS POSSIBLY UPTO ONE TENTH OF AN INCH IN SOME AREAS WILL RESULT IN HAZARDOUS ROADCONDITIONS. FARTHER SOUTH AND EAST...THE ENTIRE COLUMN WILL REMAINABOVE FREEZING RESULTING IN PLAIN RAIN CONTINUING. FARSOUTHEASTERN PORTIONS OF THE AREA COULD SEE SOME NUISANCE TYPEPONDING AND SMALL STREAM FLOODING. THE OTHER CONCERN IS FOR AREASOF FOG...LOCALLY DENSE...CONTINUING INTO THE MID OR LATE EVENINGNORTH OF A PNT TO GYY LINE.IN THE WINTER STORM AND NORTHERN PORTION OF WINTER WEATHER ADVISORYAREA...WITH HEAVIEST PRECIP REMAINING SOUTH INTO THE EVENING...ONLYANTICIPATING LIGHT SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATIONS INTO THIS EVENING.HERE IT WILL BE SOMEWHAT BORDERLINE FOR ALL SNOW WITH A LESSPRONOUNCED WARM LAYER GRADUALLY COOLING WITH TIME TO BELOW FREEZING.THE FARTHER SOUTH AND EAST IN THIS AREA YOU GO CAN EXPECT MORE OF ATHREAT FOR LIGHT ICE ACCUMULATIONS DUE TO THE POTENTIAL FOR FULLMELTING OF ICE CRYSTALS.DURING THE OVERNIGHT HOURS...A PRONOUNCED MIDLEVEL DRYSLOT WITH THEUPPER SYSTEM CLEARLY EVIDENT ON W/V IMAGERY WILL ENVELOP THESOUTHEASTERN HALF TO TWO THIRDS OF THE AREA. THIS WILL CUT OFF THESTEADIER PRECIPITATION AND RESULT IN PERIODS OF LIGHT RAIN ANDDRIZZLE/FZDZ...WITH POSSIBLY SOME LIGHT SLEET MIXED IN. AT THIS TIMEIS ALSO WHEN THE TROWAL FEATURE/DEFORMATION AXIS WILL MOST GREATLYIMPACT NORTH CENTRAL AND FAR NORTHEASTERN ILLINOIS. GUIDANCECONTINUES TO SUGGEST STRONG MIDLEVEL FRONTOGENESIS AND LIFT THROUGHTHE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE...SO PERIODS OF HEAVY SNOW ARE LIKELY WITHSNOWFALL RATES OCCASIONALLY IN EXCESS OF 1 INCH PER HOUR.AGAIN...TRENDS WILL NEED TO NEED TO BE MONITORED CLOSELY FOR THETRAJECTORY OF THE HEAVIEST BANDING. THIS IS THE TIME OF THE MOSTSIGNIFICANT IMPACTS AND WHEN ROAD CREWS COULD HAVE TROUBLE KEEPINGUP WITH THE SNOW ACCUMULATIONS. WE ARE ALSO CONCERNED THAT THE QPFTHE MODELS ARE SHOWING UNDER THE DRY SLOT COULD BE A STEADIERDRIZZLE AND THUS FREEZING DRIZZLE FOR AREAS BELOW FREEZING. THISCOULD NECESSITATE THE EXTENSION OF THE WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY FROMLA SALLE COUNTY TO CHICAGO AS MENTIONED ABOVE. THOUGH NOTE THAT THECITY ITSELF SHOULD REMAIN ABOVE FREEZING AND MITIGATE IMPACTS.FINALLY...INTO SUNDAY MORNING...THE DEFORMATION AXIS WILL PIVOTACROSS THE NORTHERN CWA. THE BIG QUESTION IS HOW PRONOUNCED THE DRYSLOT IS AT THAT TIME...WITH THE GFS MUCH MORE BULLISH THAN THE OTHERMODELS IN RETURNING SATURATION TO AREAS CLOSE TO CHICAGO. THIS WILLIMPACT HOW MUCH SNOW FALLS DURING THE MORNING SOUTHEAST OF THEHEAVIEST SNOW AXIS IN OUR CWA WHEN THERMAL PROFILES ARE FINALLYSUPPORTIVE OF ALL SNOW FOR MOST OF THE AREA. AT THIS TIME...HAVELEANED TOWARD THE DRY SLOT MAKING IT TOUGH FOR MUCH ACCUMULATION INTHE CITY AND POINTS JUST SOUTH...BUT IF THE GFS SOLUTION COMES TOFRUITION...AMOUNTS COULD BE A BIT HIGHER THAN CURRENTLY FORECAST. ONTHE OTHER HAND...WITH THE BEST FORCING STILL TO THE NORTH ANDDEPARTING NORTHEAST...WOULD NOT EXPECT ANY HEAVY SNOWFALL RATES.THE OVERALL IDEA IN FORECAST SNOWFALL AMOUNTS REMAINS VERY SIMILARTO PREVIOUS FORECASTS...HIGHEST IN THE 6 TO 8 INCH RANGE NORTH OF AWOODSTOCK TO DIXON LINE AND QUICKLY TAPERING TO THE SOUTHEAST...WITHLESS THAN INCH IN DOWNTOWN CHICAGO AND LITTLE OR NO ACCUMULATIONPOINTS SOUTH AND EAST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Light to moderate freezing rain ongoing here, starting to accumulate on the ground and elevated surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 RPM shifted south a bit with the 2-4" and 4-6" area. Where you getting that from? Some light sleet mixing in with the very light freezing rain now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Where you getting that from? Some light sleet mixing in with the very light freezing rain now. Skilling's FB page. I think you're going to do really well there. I could see the axis of better snow being a bit south. Maybe not as extreme as the EURO, but maybe like the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mogget Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Freezing drizzle southwest of Madison. Been on and off for at least 90 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Burlington Lift Bridge now seeing a temperature drop. 0.3C still 0.7C at Toronto Island. looking from that intellicast map you can really see that the QE is the divider. hate to say it, but how many vehicles you think will end up sliding off the side of Burlington and/or St Catherine's Skyways into Lake Ontario as well as maybe off the Gardnier Expressway into downtown Toronto? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Ice starting to accrete on the cars and on untreated surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 21, 2013 Author Share Posted December 21, 2013 Plain rain here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 33.0°/32° here currently. Seems like most of the moisture is heading NE/ENE. Just skirting by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Ice starting to accrete on the cars and on untreated surfaces. Loud outside. Tree branches making very odd creaking noises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London snowsquall Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 10,000 without power in Picton, ON (near Belleville) They've seen 2cm of ice accretion around there. Not good. My son and daughter are in Picton. My daughter's boyfriend has a fair sized maple sugar operation just outside of Picton. I was afraid of this....... Meanwhile in the banana belt in London - just continues to rain at 34F. Not sure if the temp will drop enough to get anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WestCoaster Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 2,000 now without power just north of Brampton nearly 20,000 total without power within the past couple hours Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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