snowstormcanuck Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Here's a link to a great video about the upcoming ice storm, from Canada's Weather Network. http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/weekend-ice-storm-threat-in-southern-ontario/18181/ Chris Scott is great. That woman has absolutely no idea what is going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 The water vapor loop is already cool, we're going to see one heck of a baroclinic leaf when it gets going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Chris Scott is great. That woman has absolutely no idea what is going on. Much of the ladies on TWN aren't qualified meteorologists unlike Chris Scott who is. He always has informative information prior to a storm and I respect his forecasts. Too bad he isnt on TV anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 . Even if we end up on the warm side, I really hope we see some of the potential of this setup realized a little better than currently modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzardof96 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Chris Scott is great. That woman has absolutely no idea what is going on. Much better than CTV news coverage with "weather specialist" Tom Brown. Over running precip is already impacting indiana and ohio he says. Ok, Tom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Even if we end up on the warm side, I really hope we see some of the potential of this setup realized a little better than currently modeled. yeah but I don't want to miss out either. I like where we sit right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MadTown Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 That's what im sayin Alek. This should be a monster on paper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 yeah but I don't want to miss out either. I like where we sit right now. If this ends up trending south but even weaker with the defo snows like some of the early GFS runs it will be a pretty epic waste Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Much better than CTV news coverage with "weather specialist" Tom Brown. Over running precip is already impacting indiana and ohio he says. Ok, Tom. Agreed. He's terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowstorms Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Much better than CTV news coverage with "weather specialist" Tom Brown. Over running precip is already impacting indiana and ohio he says. Ok, Tom. As far as I know, nobody on CTV is a qualified meteorologist, just "weather specialists". I could say the same for CP24 too, expect for Chris Potter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanthunder Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Any updates on this storm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Any updates on this storm? New models are going to be rolling out pretty soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Ryan... 0z models coming out starting in about 5 min. Hang around you will see plenty of updates or you cab che k the models out as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spwild47 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Identical even... LOT's new map kind of looks like the wxbell maps. Still think this thing looks pretty funky on the models, but at least there is a little more cold air being modeled to work with now. Those earlier solutions just didn't make much sense given the time of year and air mass north of the border. I anticipate some more surprises, but have no idea if they will benefit those of us in the LOT zones. My gut tells me not to expect much snow out of this storm, but it's all a learning process. edit: looks like I'm getting a WSW for slop & a few inches of snow. That's as good a guess as any, I suppose. Ballsy LOT map: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryanthunder Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Ryan... 0z models coming out starting in about 5 min. Hang around you will see plenty of updates or you cab che k the models out as well. I have been watching this forum for three days lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Watch and learn ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Smith Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Not difficult to imagine all of this shifting south, the combination of snow already on ground and far-south origins of eventual low pressure combined with chilly high already in place are all danger signs for a warm solution. The models already have the low pressure fairly far south but the thickness pattern oddly north, so what could change first is the orientation of thickness to low pressure. This would all argue for the freezing rain or ice pellets to be located largely south of where they are currently expected and snow to fall where freezing rain and ice pellets are expected (as well as where snow is now expected). I also have some doubts about 60s moving into IN and OH although that could still happen on a limited basis if the zones shift south. We shall see, eventually. The above would imply mostly snow in Toronto with some mixing to ice pellets, a broad mix in Niagara and western NY and also mostly snow in Detroit with some mixing, freezing rain across northern Ohio and Indiana into central IL, all or mostly snow in Chicago. Probably not what people are going to forecast at least until Saturday, but that's how I suspect it might work out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 early guess after looking at 500 on the 0z NAM is this won't be south Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chitown Storm Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 just a hunch, but I think the NAM will come in south of last run.....thus continuing the trend of 'southern correction' Got my popcorn ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 0z NAM will be different yet again...Possibly east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 early guess after looking at 500 on the 0z NAM is this won't be south I don't know...the wave looks a little quicker...I wouldn't be shocked if we get another south jog on this run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KokomoWX Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 early guess after looking at 500 on the 0z NAM is this won't be south just a hunch, but I think the NAM will come in south of last run.....thus continuing the trend of 'southern correction' Got my popcorn ready. I am voting south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 0z NAM will be different yet again...Possibly east. Yea...Colder and east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 this will certainly be an interesting, wrench in the forecast throwing solution... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Yea...Colder and east. little faster too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nelson Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Winter storm watches with accumulation totals out for our storm so far. Nice work on pulling that data together. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Not difficult to imagine all of this shifting south, the combination of snow already on ground and far-south origins of eventual low pressure combined with chilly high already in place are all danger signs for a warm solution. The models already have the low pressure fairly far south but the thickness pattern oddly north, so what could change first is the orientation of thickness to low pressure. This would all argue for the freezing rain or ice pellets to be located largely south of where they are currently expected and snow to fall where freezing rain and ice pellets are expected (as well as where snow is now expected). I also have some doubts about 60s moving into IN and OH although that could still happen on a limited basis if the zones shift south. We shall see, eventually. The above would imply mostly snow in Toronto with some mixing to ice pellets, a broad mix in Niagara and western NY and also mostly snow in Detroit with some mixing, freezing rain across northern Ohio and Indiana into central IL, all or mostly snow in Chicago. Probably not what people are going to forecast at least until Saturday, but that's how I suspect it might work out. bold mother****ing call. Pans out you get god status in my books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Stronger mid-level jet streak across TX/OK heading into AR at 21z Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 meh, ends up more or less the same...850 over N. IL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Moderate to sig hit from OK/TX up through MO, to ORD and up into MI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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