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December 21-22nd Winter Storm Part 3


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As far as I remember a couple of days ago when EURO was showing these type of snow amounts for 5  straight runs, not one person here mentioned that there is something wrong with the maps, or complaining, and now of sudden everyone is against the WXBELL maps...Hm ok

 

it's been explained to you 1000 times. Stop playing stupid (unless you're not playing).

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As far as I remember a couple of days ago when EURO was showing these type of snow amounts for 5  straight runs, not one person here mentioned that there is something wrong with the maps, or complaining, and now of sudden everyone is against the WXBELL maps...Hm ok

 

Considering it shows 4-5" of snow for O'Hare when the text output shows both 850s and surface temps above freezing for all but the last couple hundredths of an inch of precip, I think that tells you all you need to know about its lack of accuracy.

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Winter Storm Watch for the N and NW suburbs/NW cwa.

 

 

URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE CHICAGO IL
353 PM CST THU DEC 19 2013

...FREEZING RAIN LIKELY TONIGHT WITH A CHANCE FOR SIGNIFICANT
WINTRY ACCUMULATION SATURDAY NIGHT INTO SUNDAY...

ILZ006-010>012-200600-
/O.NEW.KLOT.WS.A.0006.131222T0000Z-131223T0000Z/
LAKE IL-LEE-DE KALB-KANE-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WAUKEGAN...DIXON...DEKALB...AURORA
353 PM CST THU DEC 19 2013

...WINTER STORM WATCH IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH
SUNDAY AFTERNOON...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CHICAGO HAS ISSUED A WINTER STORM
WATCH...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM SATURDAY EVENING THROUGH SUNDAY
AFTERNOON.

* TIMING...A WINTRY MIX SATURDAY NIGHT CHANGING TO ALL SNOW
SUNDAY MORNING.

* MAIN IMPACT...POSSIBLE SIGNIFICANT SNOW AND SLEET ACCUMULATION
BY SUNDAY AFTERNOON WHICH COULD MAKE TRAVEL DANGEROUS.

* OTHER IMPACT...THE CHANCE OF A WINTRY MIX WITH FREEZING RAIN
SATURDAY NIGHT...WHICH COULD RESULT IN A GLAZE ON ROADWAYS.

PRECAUTIONARY/PREPAREDNESS ACTIONS...

A WINTER STORM WATCH MEANS THERE IS A POTENTIAL FOR SIGNIFICANT
SNOW...SLEET...OR ICE ACCUMULATIONS THAT MAY IMPACT TRAVEL.
CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE LATEST FORECASTS.

&&

 

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going to play the hypotheticals for a minute. If the first low that's bringing the rain tomorrow would've been stronger, what does that mean for this storm? Would it suppress it a bit more SE and miss most of the forum members? Or would it be more of a wound up winter storm due to the strong LLT and baroclinic zone?

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going to play the hypotheticals for a minute. If the first low that's bringing the rain tomorrow would've been stronger, what does that mean for this storm? Would it suppress it a bit more SE and miss most of the forum members? Or would it be more of a wound up winter storm due to the strong LLT and baroclinic zone?

 

I think the former, but it wouldn't have missed most of the forum members, just the ones on the NW side of the subforum.

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Is southern Ontario susceptible to freezing rain events? I would think areas near the lakes could escape most ZR.

 

Granted, this is east of the Toronto area, but this is an interesting read if you haven't heard of it. I couldn't even imagine: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Ice_Storm_of_1998

Also, I'd imagine most icing events see winds out of the northeast, thus little moderating effects from Lake Ontario.

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yeah, if the heavy rain makes it well into SEMI, then this thing is going full hilt. If it doesn't, it isn't.

confused by this statement. If tomorrows low is stronger (still hypothetical) and pulls down more cold air, and forces this storm a bit more Se, it could go full tilt and still hit us and Chicago.

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LOT with an excellent AFD. Excerpt of section w/snow discussion.

 

AS THE HEAVY RAIN SITUATION IS WINDING DOWN SATURDAY NIGHT OR EARLY
SUNDAY MORNING...THE MAIN FORECAST CONCERN WILL SHIFT TO THE
POTENTIAL FOR HEAVY SNOWFALL.  THE SRN STREAM SYSTEM NOT ONLY WILL
BE RESPONSIBLE FOR DRAWING MOISTURE NORTHWARD...THERE SHOULD BE SOME
PHASING WITH A NORTHERN STREAM SHORTWAVE DROPPING OUT OF THE NRN
PLAINS.  THIS SHOULD LEAD TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A WEAK SECONDARY
CIRCULATION OVER NRN IL BY SUNDAY MORNING...ENHANCING THE DRAW OF
COOLER AIR FROM THE NORTH.  THE STRONGER COLD ADVECTION AND A STRONG
DEFORMATION ZONE ARE ADVERTISED TO SET UP OVER NRN IL/SRN WI WHICH
WILL BE THE PRIMARY FOCUSSING ELEMENTS FOR A BAND OF HEAVY SNOW.  AT
THIS POINT...BASED ON THE GOOD CONSENSUS OF THE NAM AND
ECMWF...WHICH WOULD WOULD INDICATE AN AXIS OF HEAVIER SNOW GENERALLY
FROM ERN IOWA TO SERN WISCONSIN.  ALL THINGS CONSIDERED...CONFIDENCE
IS BECOMING HIGH ENOUGH FOR IN EXCESS OF 6 INCHES OF SNOW OVER THE
NRN AND NWRN PORTIONS OF THE CWA...AS OUTLINED IN THE WINTER STORM
WATCH ISSUED THIS AFTERNOON.  CURRENTLY ANTICIPATE THAT THE ENTIRE
CWA WILL SEE AT LEAST SOME SNOW...WITH 2 TO 4 INCHES ALONG A LINE
FROM CHIGACO TO PONTIA AND 1 TO 2 INCHES FROM VALPARAISO TO
PONTIC...TAPERING OFF TO AN INCH OR LESS OVER THE FAR SERN PORTIONS
OF THE CWA.
 

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You know, here we are... Sitting less than a week from Christmas. A lot of people are traveling Saturday-Sunday, many at night too. Cutting to the center of this, I really think WSW's should have been posted for all areas where the "wiggle" of the current low track could effect. I've talked to several people who are traveling this weekend, one in particular driving Saturday night to avoid traffic from Marshall into Canada. He said "the weather said heavy rain and 50 degrees"...

Maybe this is where my firefighter/public safety comes out and says really? COME ON.

Millions are traveling this weekend. Someone is going to end up with a ice storm, snow storm and flooding conditions. Post a WSW or atleast a statement! Know what I mean? Worst comes to worst, the NWS busts and only minimal amounts of precip will fall, Atleast the public would be AWARE of the possibility.

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