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January 2014 pattern discussion


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Just to let folks know how cold the Ens are most of us are enveloped in -15 to -25 degree 850 air from the 23rd to as far as the weenie eye can see. Epicosity, stock up on salt, wood, buy stock in warm clothing suppliers. Real deal kids. Boys crying for their Mommas. Can't wait to listen to the cackling hens bitchin

Won't hear me complaining. I say bring it on!!! :weight_lift:  :thumbsup:

 

I agree....no monster storms, but just the possibility of redeveloping clippers. And I hope we don't have deep, deep cold because I always have frozen pipes. 20 - 30 with snow is good for me. What does the real cold accomplish.....ice on the ponds????

Kills off some pests, helps prevent tropical diseases from flourishing in our area. Apparently back in colonial times, Montreal and Boston were considered to have a healthier climate than that of Charleston, New Orleans and the Caribbean.

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I'm with you on this.  The Carpenters were all the rage when I was in my early to late 20's.  Such a shame that a voice like Karen's was silenced so early in life.  It will be 31 years next month.

Her drumming was better than her singing!

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VT posters have all gone off the deep end. They still have snow OTG and can enjoy winter activities while the rest of New Eng looks at green

 

It's an interesting study that someone like Dr Phil would love. You know, there are actually other industries up there, but somehow everyone there thinks the sky is falling if there isn't 3' on the ground.

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It's an interesting study that someone like Dr Phil would love. You know, there are actually other industries up there, but somehow everyone there thinks the sky is falling if there isn't 3' on the ground.

I suspect by this time next week they'll be apologizing if the steady stream of clippers showing up on models produces

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For those who somehow have to see a modeled storm on a day 12 prog, this isn't really the pattern to fit that. Personally, what I like is the propensity for models to show systems that may be coming out of the Plains towards the end of the month. You can see the potential in this by looping the various GFS runs and seeing storms coming out of the Plains and developig off the East Coast.

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i like the way GYX is framing it.  "A gradual stepping down into wintery conditions".  That is fine really.  And they are talking about a more substantial system mid week.  1 or more of these systems in the 4-7 day period will drop a light-moderate snow over most of New England I would think.  And then something bigger pops between the 22nd and 24th.

 

Not bad really, it just feels tough because we anticipate weather that is coming vs. where we actually are in the process.

 

Moderate to heavy storm by the 24th.

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LOL, of course it's going to snow here again this winter.  No one has been saying it won't.

 

However, we just went through one of the worst mid-winter stretches for winter-ethusiasts in recent memory.

 

Other than the big ski areas with lots of snowmaking and grooming equimpent, nothing is open: snowmobile trails, nordic skiing and small alpine ski areas.  Done for now.

 

A lot of VT does not have snow on the ground and where we do (like here) it's a real stretch to call it snow.

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i like the way GYX is framing it.  "A gradual stepping down into wintery conditions".  That is fine really.  And they are talking about a more substantial system mid week.  1 or more of these systems in the 4-7 day period will drop a light-moderate snow over most of New England I would think.  And then something bigger pops between the 22nd and 24th.

 

Not bad really, it just feels tough because we anticipate weather that is coming vs. where we actually are in the process.

 

Moderate to heavy storm by the 24th.

Trying to be optimistic, bu that's a long ways off. Not holding my breath. Already the saturday system is pretty much OTS.

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Ironically, many are just marginally bn for January through yesterday. We may be AOA before the big hammer drops but it's moot...we'll be bn by months end.

I was just going to post this. PVD and BOS should turn positive for the month after today. Ironically BDR has the biggest negative departure in SNE at -2.1. One thing to keep in mind is the hammer, if it comes, will be in the last week of the month so it's going to be harder to move the needle.

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VT posters have all gone off the deep end. They still have snow OTG and can enjoy winter activities while the rest of New Eng looks at green

 

 

 

It may not snow in VT again this winter. :(

 

 

 

They were due for a bit of a screwjie. I rememeber powderfreak and I were talking last year or so about some horrific winters there between 1950-1990 that seem a lot less common in recent years.

 

 

Still, they'll get their feet of snow upcoming. There's a lot of winter left.

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Won't hear me complaining. I say bring it on!!! :weight_lift::thumbsup:

Kills off some pests, helps prevent tropical diseases from flourishing in our area. Apparently back in colonial times, Montreal and Boston were considered to have a healthier climate than that of Charleston, New Orleans and the Caribbean.

prevents zombies also.
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VT posters have all gone off the deep end. They still have snow OTG and can enjoy winter activities while the rest of New Eng looks at green

 

you should probably take a trip to VT.  It's not so much snow as a series of connected sheets of ice and then just bare ground- even in the mountains, what little snow there is remains far from "useable" for most forms of recreation save for ice climbing, perhaps.

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VT posters have all gone off the deep end. They still have snow OTG and can enjoy winter activities while the rest of New Eng looks at green

 

We have a few remaining icy chunks here, but the ground is mostly bare now. As far as the mountains I am not 100% sure.

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They were due for a bit of a screwjie. I rememeber powderfreak and I were talking last year or so about some horrific winters there between 1950-1990 that seem a lot less common in recent years.

 

 

Still, they'll get their feet of snow upcoming. There's a lot of winter left.

Bing Crosby type winters were not so uncommon thats why I wondered if the numbers they think are normal are jaded because of the recent prolific run.

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If the Jan 20-31 period doesn't produce much of anything, then I'd be fairly disappointed. It is pretty ripe for some clipper/revelopers and potentially a Miller B. The cold will be plentiful.

 

It actually might get more active near the end of the month into ?February if we generate a bit of split flow...where the PNA ridge starts to decay but the EPO ridging above it is still present. That's getting pretty far out in time, but something to watch.

 

 

I still think the most near-term date to watch for storminess is Jan 22-23.

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