CT Rain Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 You are a TV station I meant in PNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Cuomo closed the Thruway from NYC to exit 23 (Albany) for a general 5-8 inch snowfall in that region. That was a ridiculous over-reaction. Pretty sad that it's coming to this. The threshold gets lower and lower... pretty soon chasing a powder day may be a thing of the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The guy I have sent my obs into ...for around 7 years now, Steve LaPointe of CBS 6 (wrgb) in ALB does a pretty good job instructing his spotters on the measurements techniques and when to start/stop, etc. with a given event. I meant in PNS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Pretty sad that it's coming to this. The threshold gets lower and lower... pretty soon chasing a powder day may be a thing of the past. It comes down to a very simple, yet powerful statement from a well known country bumpkin'. "You can't fix stupid." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I meant in PNSYea, I see what you mean but look at the maps after QC , seem pretty damn uniform and what cweat, messenger, rollo,Winston said was predictions drove reports which I think does a disservice to the many dedicated spotters. I mean just look at the final report on Blizzard 13, a storm which was as difficult to measure as any, look at the uniformity in measurements, within an inch or two for the most part. There are the Stephenin CT folks for sure but on the whole the system works pretty damn good. The hype happens, it's what the media does but I can guarantee this, it saved lives , wether overhyped or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Cuomo closed the Thruway from NYC to exit 23 (Albany) for a general 5-8 inch snowfall in that region. That was a ridiculous over-reaction.That was mind boggling, closing the LIE from midnight to the morning turned out to be a good move though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This thread is a big bag of LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I would argue measurements are too low generally since most don't use snowboards and clear and wait till it's over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 This thread is a big bag of LOL Where is Fairfield? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 It always depends on where you are. Snowpack is quite location dependent N ORH hills average about 70-75 days of snow pack per winter. A place like BOS is somewhere around 35. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Let us hope -EPO returns end of month (post thaw) , i mean is this a lock? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Let us hope -EPO returns end of month (post thaw) , i mean is this a lock? Nothing's a lock pickles, you know that. Guidance shows it though and it has happened repeatedly this winter. And it's not we're flipping raging positive, more like a movement of the deck chairs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitchnick Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Nothing's a lock pickles, you know that. Guidance shows it though and it has happened repeatedly this winter. And it's not we're flipping raging positive, more like a movement of the deck chairs. plus, current SSTA support it so it is likely feeding on itself http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2014/anomnight.1.2.2014.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 plus, current SSTA support it so it is likely feeding on itself http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2014/anomnight.1.2.2014.gif Love those + anomalies S of AK and Aleutians Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 plus, current SSTA support it so it is likely feeding on itself http://www.ospo.noaa.gov/data/sst/anomaly/2014/anomnight.1.2.2014.gif And the"big 3" climo sites in yby shows above normal snow for the season thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Here's a classic gradient patter evidence: Only 3 days but......January departures: DCA: -2.5 BWI: -5.2 PHL: -8.0 NYC: -10.5 BOS: -14.7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 All of those departures will be strong (though for northern areas not as crazy) through 1/9-10. Thereafter they'll be attacked for a spell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Lol...a little snow precedes sneaky cold on the euro. The snow Thursday and the cold Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Snowpack is nice in rural locales...urban, not so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 It always depends on where you are. Snowpack is quite location dependent N ORH hills average about 70-75 days of snow pack per winter. A place like BOS is somewhere around 35. Probably like 50 here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 And yes it's the op model but that's an ice signal d9-10 for someone with a pretty dirty torch and reload barreling towards us within 24 hours of d10. A special winter this is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 And yes it's the op model but that's an ice signal d9-10 for someone with a pretty dirty torch and reload barreling towards us within 24 hours of d10. A special winter this is. I think I need another month to make that distinction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I think I need another month to make that distinction. Of course. But there is no indication of reversal of the long term pattern as yet other than a week here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I dunno we get a ton of bad reports. Almost all are too high. Why do I never see a report and think "gee... That sounds low"? Even legit spotters can frequently measure in bad spots. its crazy....even a lot of the submitted reports around here seem one to three inches. or more higher than what i measure ( even factoring in six hr measuring). last feb blizzard was one of the very few events that i came up a little higher and jan 27 2011 and feb 2006 bc the hvy snow totals were located closer to ct border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Of course. But there is no indication of reversal of the long term pattern as yet other than a week here and there. Well conversely there isn't an indication of epic cold and snow, that's why I would wait a month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Haha SE and NW New England teaming up... only 56% of normal in December here. Though around 75-80% on the season as November was good. I was kidding I'm way above...have to be pushing almost 20" now when 30" is the normal yearly total. I dunno we get a ton of bad reports. Almost all are too high. Why do I never see a report and think "gee... That sounds low"? Even legit spotters can frequently measure in bad spots. I'm noticing the last year or two more clearly bad reports are getting into the mix. Yesterday was a perfect example and it had nothing to do with settling or anything else. JMHO like I said forecasts drive the accumulation reports now. If you guys tell someone to expect 15-20" and it's even close to that you're going to get a ton of 15" reports even if only 10" is on the ground. You do a great deservice to the many dedicated coops and certified storm spotters in our area, just saying, sure an inflated report pops up here and there but the NWS filters them out. Yesterdays reports from down here were terrible. Out of 22 reports from the county a full 12 out of the top 14 came from "HAM" radio or "public" and many IMO were just so far above what fell here they're comical. Absent this time were the NWS Employee reports which normally kind of set the bar for the upper cape. Otherwise this is what we seem to end up with....I can guarantee you 15" didn't fall around Bourne or South Plymouth, not even close. It's a storm that required careful measurement and some thought. I did notice guys like Harvey excluded almost all of the reports from down here that were high in their maps. When I see a report shrink from 15" to 14" as the storm went on that tells me the report was pretty crappy and probably should have been tossed. Take a look at Barnstable County's reports yesterday. Heavily weighted to non spotter, non employee reports vs the rest of the reporting area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Messenger you avg more than 30". Even ACK averages more than 30". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Messenger you avg more than 30". Even ACK averages more than 30". Ack...more than 30? Skeptical Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Well conversely there isn't an indication of epic cold and snow, that's why I would wait a month. There will be soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Ack...more than 30? Skeptical It's like 30-32" I believe. Will can back me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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