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January 2014 pattern discussion


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I just want to see one miracle bomb of a snowstorm (30 to 40 inches) here in the valley and leaves all the other ku zones subd out at 15 to 25 inches....complete with four to six inch hr rates thunder snow and then it can never snow again imby....last feb such a tease,have moved that stuff in southern central ct 50 -60 miles ne and I would have gotten to see it bc I cannot move and the thought of having to wait decades to see another near two footer here in dv is depressing

 

 

on a more serious note...I think we get a few inches of snow later in the week but afterwards we are cooked for awhile....

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His statement Looks fine to me. It depends where you are.

My guess is we avg above for a week to 10 days. It doesn't mean above every day, but as a whole for that period. Starting later next week.

I will take the under. I say 5 -6 day's, and near normal, no torch like features I can see, low 40's and 20s overnights seems. Perfect skiing weather. My reference was to his having issues since November with the pattern.
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Snowpack snobs are unhappy.

I know you don't seem to care, but I don't think it's necessarily about the snowpack but just keeping snow (even 2-3") on the ground through the winter. It's not unreasonably for the interior SNE areas to expect at least something on the ground throughout the winter.

With snowpack, the thing is you know it won't snow every day, so you at least have the white on the ground for the winter feel. To me it doesn't matter how cold it gets, it's not winter unless there's white on the ground. There's something repulsive to me about arctic air over brown frozen ground, lol. Aesthetically, snow cover is very pleasing for the winter eye.

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Most people don't go deep deep winter ever year

who does that? Hopefully you saw my six week forecasts made 11/22/13,

WE 12/13/13

Continued well below normal with some snow chances during this period with LES events -3 to -6

W/E 12/20/13

Much warmer period with a significant snow to rain event for SNE possible heavy snow way inland before a warm spell +2-+5 possible snowstorm on the 21st

WE 12/27/13

Much warmer with a possible Grinch storm cutter temps +3,+5

W/E 1/4/14

Return to below normal cold possible coastal snowstorm around the 4th -2,-4

W/E 1/11/14

Much warmer than normal throught the NE , +4-+6

W/E 1/18/14 coldest air of the season with a possible record setting cold -4 to -7, clipper Miller B

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I know you don't seem to care, but I don't think it's necessarily about the snowpack but just keeping snow (even 2-3") on the ground through the winter. It's not unreasonably for the interior SNE areas to expect at least something on the ground throughout the winter.

With snowpack, the thing is you know it won't snow every day, so you at least have the white on the ground for the winter feel. To me it doesn't matter how cold it gets, it's not winter unless there's white on the ground. There's something repulsive to me about arctic air over brown frozen ground, lol. Aesthetically, snow cover is very pleasing for the winter eye.

Nakedly agree
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I know you don't seem to care, but I don't think it's necessarily about the snowpack but just keeping snow (even 2-3") on the ground through the winter. It's not unreasonably for the interior SNE areas to expect at least something on the ground throughout the winter.

With snowpack, the thing is you know it won't snow every day, so you at least have the white on the ground for the winter feel. To me it doesn't matter how cold it gets, it's not winter unless there's white on the ground. There's something repulsive to me about arctic air over brown frozen ground, lol. Aesthetically, snow cover is very pleasing for the winter eye.

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I just want to see one miracle bomb of a snowstorm (30 to 40 inches) here in the valley and leaves all the other ku zones subd out at 15 to 25 inches....complete with four to six inch hr rates thunder snow and then it can never snow again imby....last feb such a tease,have moved that stuff in southern central ct 50 -60 miles ne and I would have gotten to see it bc I cannot move and the thought of having to wait decades to see another near two footer here in dv is depressing

 

 

on a more serious note...I think we get a few inches of snow later in the week but afterwards we are cooked for awhile....

 

lol

 

The only way I could see that happening was with a snowicane setup (2/26/10) displaced further east and an incredibly cold precursor airmass.  We'd get the moisture and orography wouldn't hurt us, but getting the temps to cooperate would be pretty darn difficult.... I'm not holding my breath.

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I know you don't seem to care, but I don't think it's necessarily about the snowpack but just keeping snow (even 2-3") on the ground through the winter. It's not unreasonably for the interior SNE areas to expect at least something on the ground throughout the winter.

With snowpack, the thing is you know it won't snow every day, so you at least have the white on the ground for the winter feel. To me it doesn't matter how cold it gets, it's not winter unless there's white on the ground. There's something repulsive to me about arctic air over brown frozen ground, lol. Aesthetically, snow cover is very pleasing for the winter eye.

 

Of course having snow on the ground is better then brown ground, I don't think there is a person who disagrees. But, life goes on if it is not wire to wire. My point is more to those snow pack snobs who are always hoping wire to wire snow...sometimes it doesn't always go like that. You can post any day 16 prog or use a Leon reference until you feel better, but mother nature does not care.

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lol I was looking at the 00z GFS when I made that post... the 6z at least keeps it marginally cold enough. 

 

I'm just not that stoked overall on the next two weeks for snowfall... maybe we get lucky though.  It just seems like to get a good precipitation event we'd need some stronger shortwave, and with the mean H5 trough so far west, any stronger energy will probably just warm sector us after this week's cold blast lifts out.   

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