Cold Miser Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 ...WINTER STORM WARNING FOR BIG ISLAND SUMMITS ABOVE 12000 FEET... lol. White Christmas for Hawaii? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 lol. White Christmas for Hawaii? For those who look up..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Missing the Debbie posts, you know they would be flocking to this thread if a torch was in the LR. It's spectacular for winter lovers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Euro ensembles have a the big -EPO/+NAO combo for the foreseeable future...some spikes in the PNA are evident off and on during this time as well. Flow should remain relatively fast though with zero blocking whatsoever on the Atlantic side...so it would be hard to get any slower moving coastal storms. Snow events likely to continue to come from SWFE and clippers...any coastals would be quick moving if they manage to develop in the hostile flow. Should be plenty of cold available though as long as the EPO remains negative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Euro ensembles have a the big -EPO/+NAO combo for the foreseeable future...some spikes in the PNA are evident off and on during this time as well. Flow should remain relatively fast though with zero blocking whatsoever on the Atlantic side...so it would be hard to get any slower moving coastal storms. Snow events likely to continue to come from SWFE and clippers...any coastals would be quick moving if they manage to develop in the hostile flow. Should be plenty of cold available though as long as the EPO remains negative. When was the last winter where we actually had all teleconnectors cooperating? Its seems its always one or two picking up the slack for the others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 When was the last winter where we actually had all teleconnectors cooperating? Its seems its always one or two picking up the slack for the others 2009-2010.....but we still got screwed relatively speaking in New England. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 2009-2010.....but we still got screwed relatively speaking in New England. Yea that winter was good for NYC but NE didnt too well IIRC compared what recieved relative to average. Hopefully what earthlight posted about the grinch storm maybe changing the pattern in the long run may pan out or its just another storm that cant kick the atlantic blocking into gear yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Yea that winter was good for NYC but NE didnt too well IIRC compared what recieved relative to average. Hopefully what earthlight posted about the grinch storm maybe changing the pattern in the long run may pan out or its just another storm that cant kick the atlantic blocking into gear yet I do not see any sign of sustained Atlantic blocking...we'll need more than a cutter to change that up. That is a death vortex over the region...only maybe some transient east based -NAO episodes seem possible, but on the whole I'd go big +NAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Missing the Debbie posts, you know they would be flocking to this thread if a torch was in the LR. It's spectacular for winter lovers. This season is going about as expected given the -EPO/+NAO couplet....very '08-'09 like. I expect those parralells to continue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 This season is going about as expected given the -EPO/+NAO couplet....very '08-'09 like. I expect those parralells to continue. See January thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 This season is going about as expected given the -EPO/+NAO couplet....very '08-'09 like. I expect those parralells to continue. much colder as a background, so far much much colder, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 much colder as a background, so far much much colder, I was speaking more to snowfall, though we did get of to an earlier start than 2008. December has defenitley been colder than that year, but January 2009 was pretty cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I was speaking more to snowfall, though we did get of to an earlier start than 2008. December has defenitley been colder than that year, but January 2009 was pretty cold. Jan 2009 was very very cold, with the back ground cold signal snow is greater away from you than typical in SWFE winters, more chances for southern locales as has been evident. I like where this is going very much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUNNAWAYICEBERG Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 A -epo + nao is ok in my corner. Granted there wont be big blockbusters in a fast flow, but that was bound to happen after years and years of big dawgs....regressing to the mean a bit i guess. These type of winters can be fun regardless, esp cne and nne. Been good so far, keep it coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
REDMK6GLI Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I do not see any sign of sustained Atlantic blocking...we'll need more than a cutter to change that up. That is a death vortex over the region...only maybe some transient east based -NAO episodes seem possible, but on the whole I'd go big +NAO. Yea so looks like nickel and dime events down near the tri-state then this winter for now. Good for you guys though getting your snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Yea so looks like nickel and dime events down near the tri-state then this winter for now. Good for you guys though getting your snow North and central SNE are getting their snows, coastal locations are snowless, 4" so far this year, but I guess the coastline doesn't do too well early on in the season. Our best snowfall was like the Mid Atlantic's best snowfall, we got 100" roughly and they got 100"+ roughly in some locations of that winter, but we can't expect to have snow every winter, it just doesn't happen to us on the coastline like it does further inland and the southwest burbs of Boston, MA where they jackpot every storm. It is just the way it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 North and central SNE are getting their snows, coastal locations are snowless, 4" so far this year, but I guess the coastline doesn't do too well early on in the season. Our best snowfall was like the Mid Atlantic's best snowfall, we got 100" roughly and they got 100"+ roughly in some locations of that winter, but we can't expect to have snow every winter, it just doesn't happen to us on the coastline like it does further inland and the southwest burbs of Boston, MA where they jackpot every storm. It is just the way it is. I am on the coastline and have over 15". You also did not get 100" in 2009/ 2010. The issue is more with the lows tucking in close to the coast. That probably will change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 I am on the coastline and have over 15". You also did not get 100" in 2009/ 2010. The issue is more with the lows tucking in close to the coast. That probably will change. Lol...that is an understatement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 That Essex county toaster bath is one of the best screwjobs of all time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 King James has been slain. King Weenie till further notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 That Essex county toaster bath is one of the best screwjobs of all time. It was pretty awful up into Maine too but I don't have it on the map since it cuts off. But I probably was too generous even in S ME on that map. Some area u[p there had like 40", lol...pretty far north too. What a screwjob winter that was in those parts...the Essex county, Rockingham county over to Hillsborough county (at least the lower parts) screwjob is ridiculous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 It was pretty awful up into Maine too but I don't have it on the map since it cuts off. But I probably was too generous even in S ME on that map. Some area u[p there had like 40", lol...pretty far north too. What a screwjob winter that was in those parts...the Essex county, Rockingham county over to Hillsborough county (at least the lower parts) screwjob is ridiculous. You know it's bad when Brookhaven NY beats cstl Maine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 Lol...that is an understatement wheres are 12/13 map Cisco Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 You know it's bad when Brookhaven NY beats cstl Maine. Nevermind them...you know its bad when DC gets more snow than Maine. At least Brookhaven is a bit of a weenie spot on LI. They avg like 6" more than NYC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cut Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 My parents moved to Cape Cod in '01. Two of the first three years the Bay froze over. Going to the beach and looking out towards Plym/Bos made you feel like you were looking out over the Arctic Circle. It was awesome. I think it was '02 and '04 if I remember correctly. There was also a 14" OES storm in Chatham sometime in that period I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 You know it's bad when Brookhaven NY beats cstl Maine. Ryans house total screw job, must have been the measuring elsewhere LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 wheres are 12/13 map Cisco About 2/3rds finished, lol. I'll get them out, I promise...better late than never. Its just been a crazy 6 months though. I think I'll be able to finish them after the holidays....well unless January ends up like Jan '94...then I might be waiting a bit longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 My parents moved to Cape Cod in '01. Two of the first three years the Bay froze over. Going to the beach and looking out towards Plym/Bos made you feel like you were looking out over the Arctic Circle. It was awesome. I think it was '02 and '04 if I remember correctly. There was also a 14" OES storm in Chatham sometime in that period I believe. Jan 04, icebergs in Nantucket sound, the visible sat pic was incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 About 2/3rds finished, lol. I'll get them out, I promise...better late than never. Its just been a crazy 6 months though. I think I'll be able to finish them after the holidays....well unless January ends up like Jan '94...then I might be waiting a bit longer. why did you get married and get a new job or something LOL, major life changes much??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 19, 2013 Share Posted December 19, 2013 My parents moved to Cape Cod in '01. Two of the first three years the Bay froze over. Going to the beach and looking out towards Plym/Bos made you feel like you were looking out over the Arctic Circle. It was awesome. I think it was '02 and '04 if I remember correctly. There was also a 14" OES storm in Chatham sometime in that period I believe. '03 and '04. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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