AlexP Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Best overperforming clipper I can remember was the one which came through a couple of days after the blizzard of '96. I had just finished digging my car out from the first storm when the clipper hit. We had several inches IIRC, and then we had another foot three days later. What a week! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Cant remember the year but it was around 6-10 yrs ago. They were calling for 1-3 with a clipper and when all was said and done we had 8 very fluffy inches. had to be 30-40:1 ratios...It was the most i have ever seen with a clipper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 PAZ027-028-049-050-052-056>059-063-065-066-170700-/O.NEW.KCTP.WW.Y.0026.131217T0700Z-131217T1500Z/MIFFLIN-JUNIATA-UNION-SNYDER-NORTHUMBERLAND-PERRY-DAUPHIN-SCHUYLKILL-LEBANON-CUMBERLAND-YORK-LANCASTER-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...LEWISTOWN...MIFFLINTOWN...LEWISBURG...SELINSGROVE...SUNBURY...SHAMOKIN...NEWPORT...HARRISBURG...HERSHEY...POTTSVILLE...LEBANON...CARLISLE...YORK...LANCASTER252 PM EST MON DEC 16 2013...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 10 AM ESTTUESDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STATE COLLEGE HAS ISSUED A WINTERWEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 2 AM TO 10 AMEST TUESDAY.* LOCATIONS...THE SUSQUEHANNA VALLEY AND EAST-CENTRAL MOUNTAINS.* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW.* ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 3 INCHES...WITH A FEW LOCATIONS SEEING UPTO 4 INCHES.* TIMING...LATE TONIGHT THROUGH INTO THE LATE MORNING HOURSTUESDAY.* IMPACTS...SNOW COVERED ROADS AND HAZARDOUS TRAVEL.* WINDS...SOUTHEAST 5 TO 10 MPH.* TEMPERATURES...IN THE TEENS TO AROUND 20.* VISIBILITIES...MAINLY BETWEEN 1 AND 2 MILES...WITH PERIODS OFAROUND ONE-HALF OF A MILE VISIBILITY AROUND DAYBREAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Wow...did not see that coming. Question is...will it actually come? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Tonight Snow, mainly after 10pm. Low around 14. Light and variable wind. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 2 to 4 inches possible. Tuesday Snow showers likely, mainly after 4pm. Cloudy, with a high near 30. Calm wind becoming southwest 5 to 9 mph in the morning. Chance of precipitation is 60%. New snow accumulation of 1 to 2 inches possible. could potentially be more snow for me than the last storm.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 New advisory area Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 New advisory area ctp.png How often does a clipper drop more snow in Lancaster than areas to the west? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Advisory text for UNV area URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGENATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE STATE COLLEGE PA252 PM EST MON DEC 16 2013...A SEVERAL HOUR PERIOD OF STEADY SNOW WILL OCCUR LATE TONIGHTINTO TUESDAY MORNING....A FAST MOVING BUT POTENT ALBERTA CLIPPER WILL BRING A WIDESPREAD2 TO 3 INCH SNOWFALL TO THE REGION OVERNIGHT AND EARLY TUESDAY.PAZ017>019-024>026-033-034-170700-/O.NEW.KCTP.WW.Y.0026.131217T0500Z-131217T1300Z/CLEARFIELD-NORTHERN CENTRE-SOUTHERN CENTRE-CAMBRIA-BLAIR-HUNTINGDON-SOMERSET-BEDFORD-INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...DUBOIS...CLEARFIELD...PHILIPSBURG...STATE COLLEGE...JOHNSTOWN...ALTOONA...HUNTINGDON...MOUNT UNION...SOMERSET...BEDFORD252 PM EST MON DEC 16 2013...WINTER WEATHER ADVISORY IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHT TONIGHT TO8 AM EST TUESDAY...THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN STATE COLLEGE HAS ISSUED A WINTERWEATHER ADVISORY FOR SNOW...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM MIDNIGHTTONIGHT TO 8 AM EST TUESDAY.* LOCATIONS...CENTRAL MOUNTAINS AND LAUREL HIGHLANDS.* HAZARD TYPES...SNOW.* ACCUMULATIONS...2 TO 3 INCHES...WITH A FEW LOCATIONS SEEING UPTO 4 INCHES.* TIMING...LATE TONIGHT AND EARLY TUESDAY MORNING.* IMPACTS...SNOW COVERED ROADS AND HAZARDOUS TRAVEL.* WINDS...SOUTHEAST 5 TO 10 MPH.* TEMPERATURES...IN THE TEENS TO AROUND 20.* VISIBILITIES...MAINLY BETWEEN 1 AND 2 MILES...WITH PERIODS OFAROUND ONE-HALF OF A MILE VISIBILITY AROUND AND SHORTLY BEFOREDAYBREAK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 New advisory area ctp.png They forgot Eastern and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cashtown_Coop Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 New advisory area ctp.png They forgot Eastern and I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Cant remember the year but it was around 6-10 yrs ago. They were calling for 1-3 with a clipper and when all was said and done we had 8 very fluffy inches. had to be 30-40:1 ratios...It was the most i have ever seen with a clipper. I remember several like that, not necessarily 8 but end up with 5-6 Was it this one?: This one was an "up to an inch" clipper that delivered also: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 And me Cashtown lol, I can't complain about snow until at least February now though lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 If I see 1", I'll be pleased as punch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I remember Dec 5, 2005 when we were progged to get 5 - 7" of snow from a clipper at Millersville. Dry air killed the storm...it took about 4 hours of heavy snow aloft to even get a rough snowflake to the surface and finally we got snow at Millersville...just barely hitting 5". If it's one thing that worries me with clippers it's dry air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoar_Frost Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 With a couple of exceptions, all of the surprise snowfalls or overperformers that I've experienced have been in association with clippers (or screamers or maulers -- northwest-flow-type shortwave troughs). Keep in mind, of course, that all my winters, except last winter and this one so far, were spent out in the Midwest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiier04 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 AFD is up. QPF between .15-.2, ratios 15-18:1 expected. Also mentions potential second wave Tuesday night, almost certainly even lighter than the first one though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Why no snowfall maps from CTP? Interns too busy playing CandyCrush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Why no snowfall maps from CTP? Interns too busy playing CandyCrush? They're busy searching clip art catalogs for appropriate map art. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiier04 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Final call Williamsport, York, Harrisburg, Lancaster 1-3" State College 2-4" Johnstown, Altoona, Clearfield 3-5" (local max 5-6") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 They're busy searching clip art catalogs for appropriate map art. LMAO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Final Call: everyone in forum 1 to 3 inches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 How often does a clipper drop more snow in Lancaster than areas to the west? If the low pressure is redvelops/deepens on the coast rapidly enough you can maintain the swath of snow all the way across the state. There would still be a minimum of snowfall in locations just off the mountains where downslope plays a factor and also where they might miss out on redevelopment of the precip shield. That is likely why Fulton, Franklin, and Adams Counties in the southern tier are being left out of the advisory..in addition to the advisory areas mostly having a marginal potential of meeting the advisory criteria to begin with. The low pressure is progged to track a bit further north than what would be ideal for a clipper across C-PA, but it was dicussed about in the AFD earlier today about the trough/warm front extending southeast from the low pressure making potential snowfall more like what you would see from the low tracking to the south of PA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I remember several like that, not necessarily 8 but end up with 5-6 Was it this one?: This one was an "up to an inch" clipper that delivered also: I cant say for sure but i do remember we had alot of snow on the ground that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Final call: "Alberta + Alberto" crack reaches CTP where an unfortunate intern repeats and finds themselves in a world of hell... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I remember several like that, not necessarily 8 but end up with 5-6 Was it this one?: This one was an "up to an inch" clipper that delivered also: I think the one he's talking about is this one in mid Jan 04 which is one I remember for having an advisory for similar amounts to this one but ended up waking up in the morning to 7-8 inches of pure fluff. Had a look at this one on the Ewall renanalysis page and the -10ºC line at 850mb was right through the middle of the state for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 I think the one he's talking about is this one in mid Jan 04 which is one I remember for having an advisory for similar amounts to this one but ended up waking up in the morning to 7-8 inches of pure fluff. Had a look at this one on the Ewall renanalysis page and the -10ºC line at 850mb was right through the middle of the state for this. 01_15_2004.gif That was part of just a ridiculous run for us, early Jan-mid Feb. We had like a 2 foot snowcover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canderson Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 What I love about clippers is you can shovel with a pushbroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Santa Clause Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Ohh Alberta Clippers!! The best part of this storm is the sweet graphics NWS pulls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Leaf blowers for the win Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Itstrainingtime Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 If the low pressure is redvelops/deepens on the coast rapidly enough you can maintain the swath of snow all the way across the state. There would still be a minimum of snowfall in locations just off the mountains where downslope plays a factor and also where they might miss out on redevelopment of the precip shield. That is likely why Fulton, Franklin, and Adams Counties in the southern tier are being left out of the advisory..in addition to the advisory areas mostly having a marginal potential of meeting the advisory criteria to begin with. The low pressure is progged to track a bit further north than what would be ideal for a clipper across C-PA, but it was dicussed about in the AFD earlier today about the trough/warm front extending southeast from the low pressure making potential snowfall more like what you would see from the low tracking to the south of PA. That makes sense...I do believe that most clippers have secondary development too far to our east to affect us, but not necessarily all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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