Whitelakeroy Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 e-Wall http://www.meteo.psu.edu/~fxg1/ENSPRSNE_12z/f120.html I like P005 ... what storm?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Y'all need to chill. Remember just 12 hours ago the models were locked onto a track that was farther south. I'm chill, just cognizant of the fact that this is the period where trends start to iron themselves out, and the previously suppressed GFSE are now mostly amped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargers09 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I'm chill, just cognizant of the fact that this is the period where trends start to iron themselves out, and the previously suppressed GFSE are now mostly amped. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 GGEM is actually still a big ice storm....juts hops over MI for the most part Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmc76 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 So who got the first meltdown award? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I'm chill, just cognizant of the fact that this is the period where trends start to iron themselves out, and the previously suppressed GFSE are now mostly amped. meh, plenty of the 0z/6z members had a similar warm look and the 12z are all over the map. I wouldn't read too much into it. The only noteworthy element of the 12z GFS is that it appears much more organized at the upper levels and I think is going to start coming in wetter as we move forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 So who got the first meltdown award? We still haven't seen a proper meltdown. Timchgo was close but judges said it wasn't worthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 GGEM is actually still a big ice storm....juts hops over MI for the most part Enormous area of freezing rain. Wow if anything like that pans out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Really lucky to have LM saving my butt from any real ZR threat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Really lucky to have LM saving my butt from any real ZR threat. I brought it up yesterday but the thing I don't get is why it appears to show a marine influence super far inland. Any lake influence should be confined relatively close to shore I would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Enormous area of freezing rain. Wow if anything like that pans out. 2" west/northwest of STL. Devastating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 I brought it up yesterday but the thing I don't get is why it appears to show a marine influence super far inland. Any lake influence should be confined relatively close to shore I would think. probably a mid-level warm layer getting pulled in there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Perry Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 850 temps, for Sunday, 12z gfsCGP_850_temp_120.gif Also, depicting the low, right overhead. Gee, if that doesn't spell sloppy mess, I don't know what does. So, precip type is going to be a big concern here. Surface temps are marginal at 30-35, maybe higher, maybe lower, but this would be, at this point, one of those situations, if it verifies, where temps will fluctuate a degree or two on either side of freezing, and precipitation if it is all snow, will be heavy and wet, or will flip between snow, and snow/rain mix. . the 850's are colder, over more of the NE IL area, so what that will spell is anyone's guess. For some odd reason, I simply can't grasp the fact that it could be 50+ degrees here in lower Michigan Saturday night/Sunday. When yesterdays low was -7 and 10" of snowpack. 30's and rain? Yeah I could see that, but not 50.Also, let's not forget how the models will jump back and forth between warm/cold... Further north/further south... Especially 4-5 days out. Still lots of time for flip flops, but the Euro being consistent 4 runs? I don't see things changing much on track of this system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Still feelin' my ZR call for semi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chinook Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Wagons north? wagons north.png ChicagoWX, where on the Canadian web site do you find this precip type forecast? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 ChicagoWX, where on the Canadian web site do you find this precip type forecast? http://collaboration.cmc.ec.gc.ca/cmc/cmdn/pcpn_type/pcpn_type_gem_reg.html The first 48 hours is from the RGEM, and then 49-120 hours is from the GGEM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Perry Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Still feelin' my ZR call for semi That would be fun, said no one ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Lol. One model run and everyone throws a fit. Opposite of yesterday's 12Z EURO prozac run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Can't tell exactly but doesn't look like any major shifts on the 12z Euro. Maybe a bit warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hm8 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Still feelin' my ZR call for semi That would be fun, said no one ever. I don't have anywhere to go this weekend/early week.... I'm (selfishly) down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-L-E-K Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 so yeah, left blinker definitely on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Can't tell exactly but doesn't look like any major shifts on the 12z Euro. Maybe a bit warmer. Through 96 it looks a tad slower, but can't notice too much of a difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Really lucky to have LM saving my butt from any real ZR threat. Why doesn't Lk Ontario save my butt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harrisale Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Freezing rain possibilities starting to look more likely for YYZ. GGEM has over and inch ZR while the GFS is supporting with about 0.75". With the cold air poised to flood in after this system, I'd expect some pretty serious pre-Christmas impacts in this area if this is to play out. Not sure about the EURO, if anyone has text output for YYZ that'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowstormcanuck Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 EURO definitely warmer. Gonna have mixing issues well north of where they were on the 0z run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago Storm Posted December 17, 2013 Author Share Posted December 17, 2013 12z ECMWF is warmer, but the track remains the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 The heavy band looks like it's gonna be right through Chicago on the 12z Euro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Surface low near Indy at 114.. EDIT: There's another suface low back in northwest AR, my bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
extremewx52 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Euro definitely shifting the rain/snow/ice line further north with this run. A lot less cold air than 00Z run Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thundersnow12 Posted December 17, 2013 Share Posted December 17, 2013 Looks like two separate areas of low pressure, one goes over Indy (997mb) at 6z Sunday then the main sfc low goes through southern extreme southern IL over EVV at 12z Sunday. Defo band from western IL back to northwest OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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