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Let's use this thread for short range discussion.  If something starts to look like a big dog we can make a dated event thread.

 

Now let's talk about marginal flizzard potential!  The GFS has been trying its hardest to cough up some flakes across TN this weekend.  It suggests an inch is possible from Memphis all the way to Crossville with a dusting to a half inch in the eastern valley. 

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Interesting AFD out of MEM concerning next weekend/Christmas time frame-

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MEMPHIS TN

550 AM CST SAT DEC 14 2013

.UPDATE...

UPDATED TO ADD 12Z AVIATION DISCUSSION.

&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 448 AM CST SAT DEC 14 2013/

DISCUSSION...

A SERIES OF SHORTWAVE TROUGHS EMBEDDED WITHIN LARGER SCALE

TROUGHING OVER THE PLAINS STATES...WITH THE FIRST NEGATIVELY TILTED

SHORTWAVE CURRENTLY OVER WESTERN PORTIONS OF THE MID SOUTH AND THE

SECONDARY POSITIVELY TILTED SHORTWAVE NOW OVER WEST TEXAS...WILL

EFFECT THE WEATHER OVER THE MID SOUTH TODAY. AT THE SURFACE...WEAK LOW

PRESSURE IS POSITIONED EARLY THIS MORNING OVER EASTERN ARKANSAS.

THIS SURFACE LOW AND ASSOCIATED FIRST SHORTWAVE TROUGH WILL MOVE

EAST ACROSS THE MID SOUTH THIS MORNING. ALTHOUGH A MID LEVEL DRY

SLOT IS PROGRESSING QUICKLY EASTWARD ACROSS THE REGION EARLY THIS

MORNING...ADDITIONAL LIGHT RAIN WILL BE POSSIBLE THROUGH THE

MORNING HOURS WITH THE GREATEST POPS ALIGNED ACROSS FAR EASTERN

ZONES. AN ADDITIONAL AREA OF HIGHER POPS WILL EXIST THIS MORNING

ACROSS FAR NORTHERN ZONES WHERE A DEFORMATION BAND OF

PRECIPITATION ASSOCIATED WITH A DEVELOPING TROWAL FEATURE ALONG

THE BACK SIDE OF THE SURFACE LOW WILL SKIRT ACROSS THESE AREAS.

COOLING TEMPERATURES ALOFT MAY SUPPORT A MIX OF SNOW...SLEET...AND

RAIN WITHIN THIS PRECIPITATION BAND. SURFACE TEMPERATURES SHOULD

REMAIN SLIGHTLY ABOVE FREEZING IN THESE LOCATIONS HELPING TO LIMIT

ANY ACCUMULATIONS OF WINTRY PRECIPITATION.

ANY STEADIER PRECIPITATION SHOULD TAPER OFF BY LATER THIS MORNING

WITH A CONTINUATION OF LOW STRATUS ALONG WITH DRIZZLE...POSSIBLY

MIXED WITH FLURRIES ACROSS NORTHERN SECTIONS AS THE SECONDARY

SHORTWAVE APPROACHES FROM THE WEST LATER THIS AFTERNOON AND

EVENING. TEMPERATURES SHOULD HOLD NEARLY STEADY THROUGH EARLY

AFTERNOON THEN BEGIN A SLOW FALL THROUGH THE LATE AFTERNOON HOURS

AS LOW LEVEL COLD AIR ADVECTION STRENGTHENS BEHIND THE DEPARTING

MORNING SURFACE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM. AS COLDER AIR FILTERS FURTHER

SOUTH...SOME FLURRIES MAY MIX IN WITH DRIZZLE THIS EVENING ACROSS

MUCH OF WEST TENNESSEE AND FAR NORTHERN MISSISSIPPI AS LOW LEVEL

LAPSE RATES REMAIN STEEP. ALL PRECIPITATION SHOULD TAPER OFF AFTER

MIDNIGHT AS THE SECONDARY SHORTWAVE MOVES EAST OF THE REGION AND

MOISTURE BECOMES INCREASINGLY SHALLOW. LOW LEVEL STRATUS SHOULD REMAIN

ENTRENCHED ACROSS THE ENTIRE FORECAST AREA THOUGH INTO SUNDAY

MORNING.

COLD SURFACE HIGH PRESSURE WILL BUILD INTO THE MID SOUTH ON SUNDAY

WITH CLEARING SKIES FROM WEST TO EAST THROUGH THE DAY. TEMPERATURES

WILL LIKELY REMAIN IN THE 30S ACROSS MUCH OF THE MID SOUTH AS LOW

LEVEL THERMAL PROFILES REMAIN COLD. HIGH PRESSURE WILL SLIDE EAST

BY SUNDAY NIGHT WITH A RETURN FLOW FROM THE SOUTH BECOMING RE-

ESTABLISHED OVER THE AREA.

DRY WEATHER AND WARMER TEMPERATURES CAN BE EXPECTED THROUGH MID

WEEK AND BY THE END OF THE WEEK STRONG LOW LEVEL SOUTHERLY FLOW

ALONG WITH A RETURN TO SOUTHWESTERLY FLOW ALOFT WILL PUSH

TEMPERATURES SEVERAL DEGREES ABOVE AVERAGE FOR THE END OF NEXT

WEEK. RETURNING MOISTURE ALONG WITH ENHANCED ISENTROPIC ASCENT

WILL SUPPORT SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS DEVELOPING OVER

THE MID SOUTH BEGINNING THURSDAY AFTERNOON AND CONTINUING INTO

FRIDAY.

 

BY NEXT WEEKEND...ANOTHER MAJOR PATTERN SHIFT IS ANTICIPATED AS

THE PATTERN TAKES ON A SIMILAR LOOK TO THAT OF THE PAST COUPLE OF

WEEKS. AN UPPER LEVEL LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM DIGGING ACROSS THE

SOUTHWEST U.S. WILL MOVE EAST AS A STRONG NORTHERN STREAM

SHORTWAVE DROPS SOUTHEAST ACROSS THE NORTHERN PLAINS STATES. A

VERY COLD ARCTIC AIRMASS BUILDING NORTH OF THE CANADIAN BORDER BY

THE MIDDLE OF NEXT WEEK WILL LIKELY SURGE SOUTHWARD INTO THE LOWER 48

BY THE END OF THE WEEK. THIS ARCTIC COLD FRONT WILL SURGE

SOUTHWARD TOWARDS THE FORECAST AREA BY EARLY NEXT WEEKEND AS

POTENT UPPER LEVEL ENERGY EJECTS OUT OF THE SOUTHWEST THROUGH NEXT

WEEKEND. ALTHOUGH THE DETAILS REGARDING HOW THIS SYSTEM SETS UP

OVER THE AREA IS STILL UNCERTAIN...THE OVERALL PATTERN APPEARS TO

SET THE STAGE FOR A SIGNIFICANT WINTER STORM SYSTEM IN THE

VICINITY OF THE MID SOUTH. ONCE AGAIN...THE DETAILS SHOULD DICTATE

EVENTUAL PRECIPITATION TYPES...BUT THERE IS AT LEAST A SIGNAL FOR

POTENTIAL WINTER WEATHER ACROSS SOME PORTIONS OF THE MID SOUTH

JUST AHEAD OF THE CHRISTMAS HOLIDAY PERIOD. STAY TUNED ON THE

LATEST REGARDING THIS POTENTIAL WINTER STORM SYSTEM.

JLH

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Hello folks just signed up here, I live in northwest middle tn and I am glad the Tennessee Valley forum was started.I'll be glad when we get something big to follow.

Welcome Clarksville Snowman. Glad you signed up. This subforum should grow rapidly, at least that's what we are hoping for. I grew up just outside of Nashville, live in Johnson City now.

I would not be surprised to see something to follow for the period right around Christmas or shortly after.

Once again, welcome and please tell a friend or two about this subforum. It will be a much better place to follow potential weather than local news outlets.

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Above 2500 ft (of which I am not), could be a little mischief wx wise.

 

SPECIAL WEATHER STATEMENT
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN
306 PM EST SAT DEC 14 2013

NCZ060-061-TNZ012>018-035-041>047-072-074-081-082-087-098-102-
VAZ001-002-005-006-008-151400-
CHEROKEE-CLAY-SCOTT TN-CAMPBELL-CLAIBORNE-HANCOCK-HAWKINS-
SULLIVAN-JOHNSON-MORGAN-COCKE SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTHWEST GREENE-
SOUTHEAST GREENE-WASHINGTON TN-UNICOI-NORTHWEST CARTER-
SOUTHEAST CARTER-BLOUNT SMOKY MOUNTAINS-SEVIER SMOKY MOUNTAINS-
SEQUATCHIE-BLEDSOE-SOUTHEAST MONROE-MARION-EAST POLK-LEE-WISE-
SCOTT-RUSSELL-WASHINGTON-
INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...MURPHY...HAYESVILLE...ONEIDA...
LA FOLLETTE...TAZEWELL...SNEEDVILLE...ROGERSVILLE...KINGSPORT...
BRISTOL...MOUNTAIN CITY...WARTBURG...COSBY...GREENEVILLE...
CEDAR CREEK...JOHNSON CITY...ERWIN...ELIZABETHTON...
ROAN MOUNTAIN...CADES COVE...GATLINBURG...DUNLAP...PIKEVILLE...
COKER CREEK...JASPER...DUCKTOWN...JONESVILLE...WISE...NORTON...
GATE CITY...LEBANON...ABINGDON
306 PM EST SAT DEC 14 2013 /206 PM CST SAT DEC 14 2013/

...LIGHT GLAZE OF ICE POSSIBLE AFTER MIDNIGHT TONIGHT AND INTO SUNDAY
MORNING ACROSS THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS...

AREAS OF DRIZZLE ARE EXPECTED TO LINGER ACROSS THE SOUTHERN
APPALACHIAN REGION THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING. WITH TEMPERATURES
FALLING BELOW FREEZING OVER THE HIGHER ELEVATIONS ABOVE 2500 FEET...
AREAS OF FREEZING DRIZZLE OR LIGHT SNOW WILL BE POSSIBLE AFTER
MIDNIGHT. WHILE ANY ACCUMULATIONS SHOULD BE VERY LIGHT...A LIGHT
GLAZE OF ICE WILL BE POSSIBLE ON HIGHER ELEVATION ROADWAYS ABOVE
2500 FEET.

TRAVEL MAY BECOME HAZARDOUS ONCE THE WINTRY PRECIPITATION BEGINS.
MOTORISTS NEED TO BE ESPECIALLY CAREFUL ON BRIDGES AND OVERPASSES
WHERE SLIPPERY SPOTS OFTEN DEVELOP FIRST. PLEASE STAY TUNED TO NOAA
WEATHER RADIO...OR YOUR FAVORITE MEDIA OUTLET...FOR LATER UPDATES.
 

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Surprised no one mentioning the clown map starting at Hr 180 on the latest run of the GFS..Yes i'm a weenie and have nothing else better to do..If i'm reading it right it looks like maybe models are just now beginning to pick up on the cold air...Kinda looks like the same setup we had last time...Stalled front with waves of low pressure forming along the front..But as we all know the GFS will show 20 different solutions before then.. By the way Ky boy here..Technically in the Ohio Valley but reside in the SE part..Just across the hill from Pound Virginia..Anyways always liked to follow tnweathernut because he would sometimes mention my area..Also follow the NWS at Jackson Ky..KJKL...Hope i posted in right forum..Good luck on the new Tenn.Valley Forum..

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Surprised no one mentioning the clown map starting at Hr 180 on the latest run of the GFS..Yes i'm a weenie and have nothing else better to do..If i'm reading it right it looks like maybe models are just now beginning to pick up on the cold air...Kinda looks like the same setup we had last time...Stalled front with waves of low pressure forming along the front..But as we all know the GFS will show 20 different solutions before then.. By the way Ky boy here..Technically in the Ohio Valley but reside in the SE part..Just across the hill from Pound Virginia..Anyways always liked to follow tnweathernut because he would sometimes mention my area..Also follow the NWS at Jackson Ky..KJKL...Hope i posted in right forum..Good luck on the new Tenn.Valley Forum..

Welcome Lugnuts, please feel free to post on the TN Valley forum. I would think your area is much closer (weather wise) to our area than the OH Valley.

I appreciate your kind words also. I have family in Tazewell TN and we have been known to be in Middlesboro KY from time to time.

It will be interesting to see how the next events unfold. GFS is back and forth showing cold, it would be nice to get something solid to follow within 5-6 days. Hope we can FINALLY creep forward and realize a better pattern for the TN Valley area (SE Ky too). Once again, welcome and post often.

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Welcome Lugnuts, please feel free to post on the TN Valley forum. I would think your area is much closer (weather wise) to our area than the OH Valley.

I appreciate your kind words also. I have family in Tazewell TN and we have been known to be in Middlesboro KY from time to time.

It will be interesting to see how the next events unfold. GFS is back and forth showing cold, it would be nice to get something solid to follow within 5-6 days. Hope we can FINALLY creep forward and realize a better pattern for the TN Valley area (SE Ky too). Once again, welcome and post often.

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Thxs for the invite..Fond memories of  Middlesboro and Pineville area when growing up..Use to frequent that area quite often..Me and some buddies would drive over the hill and but some good tenn. white lighting from time to time..Ah, the good ole days.. 

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MRX appears to think there's a slight chance for some light frozen precip tonight in the higher elevations of NE TN and SW VA. And it definitely looks like a snorkle will be mandatory for any last minute Christmas shopping this coming weekend!

 

 

HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN
403 AM EST TUE DEC 17 2013

NCZ060-061-TNZ012>018-035>047-067>074-081>087-098>102-VAZ001-002-
005-006-008-180915-
CHEROKEE-CLAY-SCOTT TN-CAMPBELL-CLAIBORNE-HANCOCK-HAWKINS-
SULLIVAN-JOHNSON-MORGAN-ANDERSON-UNION-GRAINGER-HAMBLEN-
NORTHWEST COCKE-COCKE SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTHWEST GREENE-
SOUTHEAST GREENE-WASHINGTON TN-UNICOI-NORTHWEST CARTER-
SOUTHEAST CARTER-ROANE-LOUDON-KNOX-JEFFERSON-NW BLOUNT-
BLOUNT SMOKY MOUNTAINS-NORTH SEVIER-SEVIER SMOKY MOUNTAINS-
SEQUATCHIE-BLEDSOE-RHEA-MEIGS-MCMINN-NORTHWEST MONROE-
SOUTHEAST MONROE-MARION-HAMILTON-BRADLEY-WEST POLK-EAST POLK-LEE-
WISE-SCOTT-RUSSELL-WASHINGTON-
403 AM EST TUE DEC 17 2013 /303 AM CST TUE DEC 17 2013/

THIS HAZARDOUS WEATHER OUTLOOK IS FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHWEST NORTH
CAROLINA...EAST TENNESSEE AND SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA.

.DAY ONE...TODAY AND TONIGHT...

SCATTERED RAIN SHOWERS THIS AFTERNOON WILL CHANGE TO SNOW SHOWERS
IN THE EVENING ACROSS SOUTHWEST VIRGINIA AND NORTHEAST TENNESSEE AS
COLDER AIR BUILDS INTO THE AREA. LIGHT SNOW ACCUMULATIONS WILL BE
POSSIBLE IN HIGHER ELEVATIONS...WITH LESS THAN ONE INCH EXPECTED.

.DAYS TWO THROUGH SEVEN...WEDNESDAY THROUGH MONDAY...

DEEP MOISTURE FROM THE GULF OF MEXICO WILL SPREAD INTO THE AREA ON
SATURDAY AND SATURDAY NIGHT. A PERIOD OF HEAVY RAIN IS EXPECTED
AHEAD OF A COLD FRONT ON SATURDAY NIGHT. LOCALIZED FLOODING OF LOW
LYING AREAS WILL BE POSSIBLE.

 

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From Mike Dross at Wright-Weather....

 

Posted in the medium/long range discussion...on Dec 14th.  The GFS hinted that day at potential t-storms for this upcoming weekend.  Hope it thunders in the North Carolina mountains.  That rule is about as close to gold as any "wooly worm" rule I can find.  Start pumping warm air into a cold air mass...bad things are going to happen.

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Went ahead and posted in this thread since it is not so much pattern but upcoming events...

000

FXUS64 KMRX 262015

AFDMRX

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION

NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MORRISTOWN TN

315 PM EST THU DEC 26

....LONG TERM...(SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH THURSDAY)...MODELS NOT TOO

DISSIMILAR THROUGH MOST OF THE PERIOD BUT DIVERGE ABOUT MID WEEK.

SATURDAY NIGHT A RELATIVELY STRONG SHORT WAVE DRIVES NORTHEAST

ACROSS THE MID ATLANTIC STATES WITH DEEPER MOISTURE AND LIFT OVER

THIS REGION. HOWEVER...PRECIPITATION SHIELD LARGE ENOUGH FOR SOME

HIGH POPS FOR SHOWERS SATURDAY NIGHT THROUGH SUNDAY MORNING. COLDER

AIR SPILLS INTO THE REGION ON THE BACK SIDE OF THIS SYSTEM WITH

ANOTHER MODIFIED ARCTIC BOUNDARY DROPPING INTO THE DEEP SOUTH. THIS

SHOULD CAUSE A CHANGE OVER TO SNOW SHOWERS MUCH OF THE FORECAST AREA

SUNDAY NIGHT INTO MONDAY. PRECIP WILL BE ENDING DURING THE MORNING

HOURS MONDAY MOST OF THE AREA WITH EXCEPTION OF THE HIGHER TERRAIN.

THE COLD...DRY AIRMASS BUILDS INTO THE SOUTHEAST KEEPING THREAT OF

PRECIPITATION OUT OF THE FORECAST UNTIL THURSDAY WHEN RETURNING

MOISTURE AHEAD OF ANOTHER FRONTAL SYSTEM BRINGS A CHANCE OF RAIN AND

THE POSSIBILITY OF SOME SNOW IN THE COLD AIR ADVECTION BEHIND THE

FRONT THURSDAY NIGHT.

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