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December 17th Clipper Potential


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Any old timers remember the robust clipper on 12/15/1989. Was a disappointment in NYC and LI, but not up in Stowe where I was that day:

http://www.wunderground.com/history/airport/KLGA/1989/12/15/DailyHistory.html

Hopefully this one won't be similar. Same time of year, different winter (I hope).

The really strong ones (tomorrow's is kind of a weak one until it hits the coast) have a tremendous temp contrast, but are usually pretty dry for the areas that get warm sectored. They are windy little buggers.

Never speak of that storm again! Still stings lol

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Never speak of that storm again! Still stings lol

 

I sort of experienced both the good side and the bad side of that one.  Skied all day then was listing to Craig Allen on the AM radio talking about the wall of snow coming across the Hudson and the forecasted accumulations, then a little while later talking about how it was quickly turning to rain everywhere and accums at most an inch.

 

Later that evening the snow started in Stowe and it was a great storm there, although it got too windy as the snow continued the next day and most lifts were closed.

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Seasonal Snowfall / Long Island
2013-14 Winter
As of 12/16/2013 / 5:30 pm

 

Baiting Hollow: 6.4"

Smithtown: 6.4"

Islip / MacArthur Airport: 6.0"

Centerport: 6.0"

Port Jefferson: 6.0"

Mt. Sinai: 5.2"

BNL / Upton: 3.8"

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Seasonal Snowfall / Long Island

2013-14 Winter

As of 12/16/2013 / 5:30 pm

Baiting Hollow: 6.4"

Smithtown: 6.4"

Islip / MacArthur Airport: 6.0"

Centerport: 6.0"

Port Jefferson: 6.0"

Mt. Sinai: 5.2"

BNL / Upton: 3.8"

6.2" Kings Park

I'm in Kings Park at roughly 186' ASL according to GPS.

It's amazing how much more snow the NS can get over the SS of the island. We also tend to get more from Port Jeff west to Huntington and north of Jericho Turnpike. Our own mini snow belt of sorts.

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What happened with that storm?

Was supposed to be a 4 to 6" storm on a Friday evening. We were all set to decorate the tree. Temps were in the 20s. Started snowing and about 20 minutes later the temp jumped to 40 degrees and it started pouring. Before the weather channel, radar and the internet so I had no idea what was going on other than that the forecast busted badly. At the very end it switched to snow after the cold air filtered in but it was too late to get any accumulations. Then we dropped into the deep freeze the rest of the month but got nothing more than occasional snow showers.

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6.2" Kings Park

I'm in Kings Park at roughly 186' ASL according to GPS.

It's amazing how much more snow the NS can get over the SS of the island. We also tend to get more from Port Jeff west to Huntington and north of Jericho Turnpike. Our own mini snow belt of sorts.

 

Nice to see you here.  We need as many good posters from Long Island as we can get...and I do agree with your take on it being a pretty decent area, all things considered.  Having lived in Plainview for 23 years, I often noticed a notable uptick in snowfall just 3 or 4 miles to my north a good number of times...and having been in Port Jeff the last 19, we've ended up on the right side of the rain / snow line probably more times than just random chance would suggest.

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To me the NAM is going to go in the direction of the 18Z GFS and that is why it started to dry out. But if it does go the way of the GFS it would juice-up as the second strong 500 SW catches up to the surface low. The second SW is more difluent so it would catch the surface low and quickly deemed. This needs to be watch as one of the ECMWF runs once suggested a few days back. The is just a possibility and needs to be watch.

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Nice to see you here.  We need as many good posters from Long Island as we can get...and I do agree with your take on it being a pretty decent area, all things considered.  Having lived in Plainview for 23 years, I often noticed a notable uptick in snowfall just 3 or 4 miles to my north a good number of times...and having been in Port Jeff the last 19, we've ended up on the right side of the rain / snow line probably more times than just random chance would suggest.

Thanks William, glad I'm back. Just brought my station back up online. Been a crazy year including almost dying lol but that's for a different thread.

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The degree to which the NAM was incorrect at 6-12 hours with it's height and vorticity forecast from it's 12 and 18z runs is nearly comical. Amazing that this is seen as a half-decent weather model.

My favorite part of this page is when u call the NAM out for being awful and then rest of the page is dedicated to analyzing it . LOL

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6.2" Kings Park

I'm in Kings Park at roughly 186' ASL according to GPS.

It's amazing how much more snow the NS can get over the SS of the island. We also tend to get more from Port Jeff west to Huntington and north of Jericho Turnpike. Our own mini snow belt of sorts.

I have lived here on the north shore since 1960. Just north of Jericho it is almost always a little colder during marginal storms. It makes a big difference sometimes

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