CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 some places may actually have thunder & sleet or thunder & freezing rain. Yeah - was just thinking that. That's a +TSPL kind of setup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Euro is super juicy... almost 0.7" of ice for me. yeah i think there's a legit icing concern. assuming the low levels don't scour out like guidance is showing, i think there's little stop the 9h to 8h layers from warming...but how does the interior spots like BDL go from 15F to much more than 30F? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This will be interesting to see who is right, GYX going 14-18" for PSM, WMUR going for 6" Like Chris said...GYX is closer to the 14" in the 14-18" zones and my hunch is he'd prefer it less than < 14", but I won't put words in his mouth. I think I like a blend of the 2. No putting words in my mouth, I would definitely be taking the under on 14" for what it's worth. I would think more like 8ish for PSM proper, and the higher totals closer to a foot I would have closer to the higher terrain in Strafford County. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Euro is super juicy... almost 0.7" of ice for me. Holy crap are you serious? That signal is really becoming stronger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Euro still all snow at 6z for many areas... but then a hellacious thump of ice for some 6z-12z. Ryan--how does that pinging look for up this way? I'm guessing by the time the 18z run comes out, I'll be down to 5-7". latitudinal gradient FTW. How does it look for the Concord area? (I'm being pressed for information. ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 yeah i think there's a legit icing concern. assuming the low levels don't scour out like guidance is showing, i think there's little stop the 9h to 8h layers from warming...but how does the interior spots like BDL go from 15F to much more than 30F? Doubtful HFD or BDL go above freezing. It's going to come down so hard though I think there won't be a big ZR issue on trees/power lines though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 SR in a heartbeat I think sunapee may score more snow. Think I can make it leacing here at 6 tonight? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobbieL241 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 16z RAP bring 12" down to Mt. Tolland. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This is why I was throwing around the TSSN idea yesterday. Look at that narrow area of very low + vaues of LI pushing into the moisture slug in SNE. This has been signaled for a while...signaled now on 12z gfs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 May be right behind. Debating sunapee or sr for the am. Not sure I can beat the snow late today and the am looks treacherous I love Sunapee, but it's hard for them to jackpot in this set up. Sunday River is just prime for a good dose of powder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Holy crap are you serious? That signal is really becoming stronger. I doubt icing will really become a serious issue... seems like SN to PL to ZR and all of it is coming down very quickly. A lot of the precip that falls as ZR may not be able to accrete. Slower rates seem to work better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Doubtful HFD or BDL go above freezing. It's going to come down so hard though I think there won't be a big ZR issue on trees/power lines though. Remember we thought that during the 2008 ice storm and look what happened! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowMan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Is icing expected to be an issue up here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This is why I was throwing around the TSSN idea yesterday. Look at that narrow area of very low + vaues of LI pushing into the moisture slug in SNE. This has been signaled for a while...signaled now on 12z gfs. avn_21_rh.gif Showalter index gets to around 0 on the GFS. +TSPL signal right there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Euro is super juicy... almost 0.7" of ice for me. Ice as in ZR? Wow--impressive. What are the surface temps for that? some places may actually have thunder & sleet or thunder & freezing rain. Painful to be out in that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I doubt icing will really become a serious issue... seems like SN to PL to ZR and all of it is coming down very quickly. A lot of the precip that falls as ZR may not be able to accrete. Slower rates seem to work better. it is a Sunday but the main concerns would be more travel than power outages/damage...I would think Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Remember we thought that during the 2008 ice storm and look what happened! It is just hard to do when you're only looking at like 3 hours of +FZRA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Remember we thought that during the 2008 ice storm and look what happened! Technically though, like less than half of the total QPF went into ice accretion. There was just so much liquid equivalent that even half of it going to ice was still an inch of glaze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This is why I was throwing around the TSSN idea yesterday. Look at that narrow area of very low + vaues of LI pushing into the moisture slug in SNE. This has been signaled for a while...signaled now on 12z gfs. avn_21_rh.gif I think you (and maybe Forky?) first mentioned it Thursday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I love Sunapee, but it's hard for them to jackpot in this set up. Sunday River is just prime for a good dose of powder. Think the ride will be reasonable at 8 tonight? I have visions of having to eat my own hand after being stuck in a snow bank for a day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Stoopid, thats at BDR and LOL about 3/4 inch here at WORK lol, you said "here", assumed home or work. ...And that's Mr. Stoopid to you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It is just hard to do when you're only looking at like 3 hours of +FZRA. yeah i agree about the rates. but still wouldn't be surprised at all if there are several hours of fzra and it causes some issues here and there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Remember we thought that during the 2008 ice storm and look what happened! that storm started icing early in the afternoon (around noon at my school). And ended early the next morningThis will be a much shorter period Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Is icing expected to be an issue up here? We're probably getting 8-10'' and then pinging for a bit. Worth it for the +SN though...I love SWFE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 sneaky cold shot on monday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Think the ride will be reasonable at 8 tonight? I have visions of having to eat my own hand after being stuck in a snow bank for a day.Leaving at 8? Bad idea. Leave by 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 We're probably getting 8-10'' and then pinging for a bit. Worth it for the +SN though...I love SWFE. . Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 It is just hard to do when you're only looking at like 3 hours of +FZRA. Would the timing being at night as opposed to the day make any difference at all? Wasn't that one factor in 2008? (Not trying to say we are going to see that or see any major impacts from any icing). Technically though, like less than half of the total QPF went into ice accretion. There was just so much liquid equivalent that even half of it going to ice was still an inch of glaze. Yeah that's true...and thankfully more of that didn't accrete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 lol, you said "here", assumed home or work. ...And that's Mr. Stoopid to you! no matter you will beat me by 1/4 inch LOL, you better be up at 1AM for the switch though, measure before it compacts LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 sneaky cold shot on monday flash freeze for some Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.