Bryan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Rte 3 turning into a mess around Exit 5 already. Nice band Really is coming down nicely, over by colony place in plymouth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 pressure falls in SC and winds reacting, 3 mb last hour, this is Messenger special time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 it probably means the entire storm is going to bust frigid and everyone is going to get slammed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 yeah look at it turning due west into BOS harbor too. wouldn't surprise me at all if someone stole an inch or three of fluff out of that RGEM expanded this over most of east coastal MA by about 1230/1. Radar looks better out over the Bay too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 That's what I'm hoping for Phil. Look at that conv band too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 it probably means the entire storm is going to bust frigid and everyone is going to get slammed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 pressure falls in SC and winds reacting, 3 mb last hour, this is Messenger special time This one bores me to be honest. There's no stopping the WAA aloft with this one I don't think. RAP pushes that band into Boston later and dries us out over the Cape towards evening somewhat. Meh....I see this as one of those deals where we wait and wait for the heavier stuff to move into the Cape/SE MA and by the time it does any snow that falls is very brief. Not excited Ginxy, at least out by you you're getting into the lift. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 This one bores me to be honest. There's no stopping the WAA aloft with this one I don't think. RAP pushes that band into Boston later and dries us out over the Cape towards evening somewhat. Meh....I see this as one of those deals where we wait and wait for the heavier stuff to move into the Cape/SE MA and by the time it does any snow that falls is very brief. Not excited Ginxy, at least out by you you're getting into the lift. Well its exciting right now to have some nice snows coming down, temps in the teens, happy happy happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Nothing showed 2-4" by 12pm Honestly not surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil882 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 RAP has it, just a tad too far north. Looks like the 850 mb front just starting to sharpen as WAA commences. Yep that's what I am seeing too... nice stretching deformation pattern over where the fgen is occurring near Lake Ontario. Such a pattern is favorable for laterally translating snow bands that generally move sw-ne but can drop a lot of snowfall where the mesoscale forcing is maximized. Thats why the radar looks "streaky" where in general there is a broad area of reflectivity in the 10-20 dbz range. However, the mesoscale snowbands are the embedded elements that are 25-30 dbz and can result in a quick burst of moderate or even heavy snow (like what happened in BGM earlier this morning). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 forget the snow for a sec... this cold is dam impressive for this time of the year, not even out of the teens on the coastal plain in december at noon. very impressive Scooter, is there anything to this, or do we warm that much layer? I guess my novice question is, is there a bigger ice component to the storm than is being forecasted, or do we warm to much later given the track? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Scooter, is there anything to this, or do we warm that much layer? I guess my novice question is, is there a bigger ice component to the storm than is being forecasted, or do we warm to much later given the track? We are going to warm a ton on the CP. You may stay below 32..but the Atlantic will not be denied. I've seen it start out in the single digits and then friggin Pelicans flying by 6 hrs later on srly winds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 We are going to warm a ton on the CP. You may stay below 32..but the Atlantic will not be denied. I've seen it start out in the single digits and then friggin Pelicans flying by 6 hrs later on srly winds. :lol: yep. no blocking FTL. what's funny about this set-up (and i use that term funny loosely) is had there been a hint of anything to slow down the departure of that high, this would be a pretty epic set-up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 OE kicking in as winds begin to repond to cyclogen down the coast. Utterly impressed by the magnitude of cold here ... probably since 2003-2004 for a noon hour to have so many 9-13F readings over DPs as low at -12F! Having difficulty believing the NAM 00z and 12z thermal fields. The 06z NAM seems a better fit into the synoptic and/or ability to recover off of this type of air mass, particularly when it is anchored by an actual +PP over eastern Ontario. Not sure I like even the GFS' position(s) therein, though NCEP's model preference bends that way. Thinking with such an unusual initial condition of extreme cold against a southern stream impulse, that no model-type would have a finite enough mesh; odd things may likely pan out. Still think it thunders somewhere amid the HFD-BOS axis. With this type of air mass in place and that amt of warm transport between 850 and 700mb, it is going to run into nearly vertical elevated frontal slope, right as the mid troposphere wind max is passing over top. I haven't checked recent BUFKT but both the NAM and GFS had TTs rising to between 50 and 53, yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cold Miser Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 30-1 stuff, 3 inches OTG Dude, how do you have 3" new and I have barely an 1/8 new - at 5 miles difference as the crow flies? EDIT: or are you at work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Honestly not surprised. Models actually did really well with that like 3 days out . Classic signal with weak warm advection and a saturated column through a deep snow growth zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thus stuff is like lake effect fluff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modfan Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Dude, how do you have 3" new and I have barely an 1/8 new - at 5 miles difference as the crow flies? EDIT: or are you at work? I think he is at work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Thus stuff is like lake effect fluff 0.7" with a liquid equivalent of 0.025" - so yeah... super fluffy stuff. All dendrites too. Caught these on my jacket and iphone camera. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 0.7" with a liquid equivalent of 0.025" - so yeah... super fluffy stuff. All dendrites too. Caught these on my jacket and iphone camera. Can you get me a snowboard for Christmas? I think I actually found a spot at my new apartment that I can measure snow!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 0.7" with a liquid equivalent of 0.025" - so yeah... super fluffy stuff. All dendrites too. Caught these on my jacket and iphone camera. Neat picture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 With the temp gradient beginning to sharpen starting to see an increase in frotogenesis!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 0.7" with a liquid equivalent of 0.025" - so yeah... super fluffy stuff. All dendrites too. Caught these on my jacket and iphone camera. Nice jacket. Curious to see how much pinging goes on up this way and when it will start--I do expect that to happen. We've had some baking powder for the last hour or so. Getting warmer, though. 7.0/-1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Ryans Boss NBC 30 generous? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Dude, how do you have 3" new and I have barely an 1/8 new - at 5 miles difference as the crow flies? EDIT: or are you at work? Stoopid, thats at BDR and LOL about 3/4 inch here at WORK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Can you get me a snowboard for Christmas? I think I actually found a spot at my new apartment that I can measure snow!!! i can give you a piece of wood painted white Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 With the temp gradient beginning to sharpen starting to see an increase in frotogenesis!!! Well by definition frontogenesis is the increase in horizontal temp gradient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Radar looks meh aside of the band kissing the coast of ma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 BOX nods to the torch and lowers amounts. Calling for a mix here tonight in the western Franklin zfp. Alas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 i can give you a piece of wood painted white i have to say the guide that was posted by someone a few weeks back was pretty funny. it went through all of these exact measurement techniques and the correct size and placement and clearing of the board etc...and then talked about how to measure on grass. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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