sauss06 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 We aren't old...we're wise. Do you remember that storm? My dad worked construction, he only missed work if he was in cardiac arrest or had some sort of amputation, etc. He didn't go to work that day. I also remember responding to multiple wrecks on I-81. other then that, not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 I think an obvious pattern has shown itself regarding how the conflicting signals are working themselves out. The huge NPAC vortex is dumping cold into the CONUS and fighting back the SE ridge from the +AO/-PNA combo. However, the position of the trough is not allowing for good amplification of systems along the east coast. We are getting flat waves and weak systems fighting into the ridge. We are getting decent QPF from a healthy STJ though. All of this combined is not a horrible pattern, and most of PA has already cashed in (my area not included) and I think if this pattern continues into the heart of winter we could get a historic cold period and nickel and dime our way to a good snowfall year. Of course I suck with long range stuff and the pattern could flip at any time rendering all of this moot. Not bad, I think based on what I am reading elsewhere that your post has merit. The other wildcard is there seems to be signs of a developing El Nino? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Not bad, I think based on what I am reading elsewhere that your post has merit. The other wildcard is there seems to be signs of a developing El Nino? That would argue that the healthy stj continues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Some very light snow in Bellefonte at the moment. Fine flakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Nam is mostly rain for the lsv this weekend, gfs still snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psuhoffman Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nam is mostly rain for the lsv this weekend, gfs still snow.Nam can't get what happened 6 hours ago right I wouldn't worry about its 84 hour prog much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeffsvilleWx Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nam is mostly rain for the lsv this weekend, gfs still snow. Nam can't get what happened 6 hours ago right I wouldn't worry about its 84 hour prog much I'm not expecting anything from this (I never do), I was just making an observation. I know the NAM is horrible, especially at it's max range. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cfbaggett Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Last year, we had 5 storms that produced snow in State College that I classified as Miller B's. They totaled 19.6". One storm was a biggie (8.5" on December 26th). I classified the storm on Sunday as a weak Miller B as well, and it produced 1.2". So yes, Miller B's can produce... but generally on the light side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skiier04 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Last year, we had 5 storms that produced snow in State College that I classified as Miller B's. They totaled 19.6". One storm was a biggie (8.5" on December 26th). I classified the storm on Sunday as a weak Miller B as well, and it produced 1.2". So yes, Miller B's can produce... but generally on the light side. Yup, our biggest storms here have almost always been Miller A's. Seems like our best chance with this weekend is to hope for a stronger northern stream and some nice overrunning precip. Costal redevelopment will likely be a non-factor. On the plus side, at least a 1-3" type event seems like a lock at this point. If everything works out, maybe it could be 3-6". I'll just enjoy another wintry weekend and tacking on to the early season snowpack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nam can't get what happened 6 hours ago right I wouldn't worry about its 84 hour prog much With the way this winter has gone so far, I wouldn't be surprised if southern PA gets a moderate snowstorm out of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 You guys are forgetting a certain miller B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Snow picking up in intensity here, coating on the road and cars. Fairly heavy band dropping southeast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NortheastPAWx Posted December 12, 2013 Author Share Posted December 12, 2013 You guys are forgetting a certain miller B 300x200_02170720_bliz021711.jpg Ah, the good old days when everyone would get blitzed... Snow picking up in intensity here, coating on the road and cars. Fairly heavy band dropping southeast. Picked up here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pawatch Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Jamie just checked the radar...sweet You guys are forgetting a certain miller B 300x200_02170720_bliz021711.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PennMan Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Snow picking up in intensity here, coating on the road and cars. Fairly heavy band dropping southeast. Nice coating here. Can see the moon right through the clouds too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice coating here. Can see the moon right through the clouds too. Very fluffy, sparkly snow. Looks nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WmsptWx Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The 2003 storm was a fun weekend for me. I think we were just skirted to the south of a storm the Friday before, which was Valentine's Day and thankfully it didn't snow that night so I was able to go to Whitetail Ski Resort in Mercersburg with my new girlfriend. Spent a cool evening doing that and then the storm came on the other half of the weekend. I think we got just under 2 feet from that one. Up until the 2010 storms, that was the last storm I remember being truly memorable aside from sleetmageddon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Snow picking up in intensity here, coating on the road and cars. Fairly heavy band dropping southeast. Same here, hopefully enough of a band to cover over the ridiculous glacier of a snowpack we have on the ground. It's gonna be a cold one tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sauss06 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 You guys are forgetting a certain miller B 300x200_02170720_bliz021711.jpg I knew we have had Miller B storms recently like i said, but honestly i didn't know PD2 was a Miller B Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Same here, hopefully enough of a band to cover over the ridiculous glacier of a snowpack we have on the ground. It's gonna be a cold one tomorrow. We have .9, I think we pull off a solid inch. Very fluffy snow. Took this while walking the dogs in town, the side streets are covered and 322/220 is covered also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 It's a really fluffy, sparkly snow, the kind where you can clearly see each flake. Love that stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I-83 BLIZZARD Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice! Glad to see other areas getting in on holiday season snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieOber Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 The 2003 storm was a fun weekend for me. I think we were just skirted to the south of a storm the Friday before, which was Valentine's Day and thankfully it didn't snow that night so I was able to go to Whitetail Ski Resort in Mercersburg with my new girlfriend. Spent a cool evening doing that and then the storm came on the other half of the weekend. I think we got just under 2 feet from that one. Up until the 2010 storms, that was the last storm I remember being truly memorable aside from sleetmageddon. Yeah, good point on the Friday before storm. When I wrote the press release on Thursday for AccuWeather, we talked about that storm and how it might not really stop snowing from Friday until Monday for some people. Then that storm didn't work out. This general community was all on Wright-Weather at that time, and I remember there was some panic thinking that since the first storm busted the second one would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paweather Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Nice Front End Thump on the GFS.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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paweather Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Canadian on Board great front end thump! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkpa25 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 CMC shows 4-8 inches in southeast pa, same spots essentially as the last 2 snowfalls. I'm sure it's over done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Canadian on Board great front end thump! Canadian actually keeps things snow the entire event for pretty much everyone as the low tracks just south of PA. I tend to think that this event will be mainly frozen given placement of a decent high up north and a pretty flat looking wave coming across. Neutralish/Positive NAO seems to argue against any kind of big time phase and an overly huge storm. But there should still be a decent slug of moisture coming with this southern branch wave. At the moment I think Central PA will see a general light to moderate snowfall (2-5ish with perhaps an imbedded swath of higher amounts where best ratios meets best QPF) and also the potential of some mixing in the southern parts of PA depending on the track and evolution of the low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2001kx Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 We have .9, I think we pull off a solid inch. Very fluffy snow. Took this while walking the dogs in town, the side streets are covered and 322/220 is covered also. Right around .5" here. You have me beat so far in total snow for the year...Lets see if i can catch up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voyager Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Getting some light snow this morning. Eyeballing a dusting to perhaps a quarter inch. Temp is 21 degrees, which is a bit warmer than what I thought it would be. Tomorrow morning will be a different story, so it would seem, with perhaps the first single digits of the season here per the NWS... Tonight: Partly cloudy, with a low around 9. Wind chill values as low as -2. West wind around 10 mph. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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