CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 This snow wants to melt when it slows...I hope some sticks around. Maybe 0.5" here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Finally a couple of flakes falling in Andover. Taking a while to overcome the dry air Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 That stuff over the Berks; is it terrain enhanced or will it move east? I've watched it dry up all morning as it heads east. Some bands look fairly robust out towards Albany. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Radar filling back in now over SW ct and ENy down into Jersey.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mfastx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Not really sticking to anything here. And the huge hole has arrived. Not looking good for BOS folks. Tapering off 34 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 i think this is the area to watch down here...see if this can strengthen a bit and fill in as the upper level disturbance pivots through and things get a little boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ma blizzard Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 fwiw it looks like the radar is filling in a little / signs of modest banding around and east of ALB. translating eastwards between 12-3 .. maybe areas of SNE north of the pike could see a quick 1/2"-1"? wouldnt mind seeing new 17z obs at PSF / AQW to see if they are reporting at least a 3/4 mi S- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTWeatherFreak Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Looks like one batch slides north of Ct and one batch south ftl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 i think this is the area to watch down here...see if this can strengthen a bit and fill in as the upper level disturbance pivots through and things get a little boost. Untitled.jpg I think my take away from this is once again 700vvs kind of trumped everything else. The main and steady precip is under the best lift at those levels. 1" here on the nose, light snow now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowciopath Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Got 2.2" on the snow board here in Ashford... More than that in the grass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TauntonBlizzard2013 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Slowing down here. We may be done soon. Not going out to measure but I would say 3/4 inch at most..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowgeek Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Who da thunk it....snow in (near) Albany. Light / borderline moderate snow. 1/4" on ground. 27.5 / 23 so it's sticking nicely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I think my take away from this is once again 700vvs kind of trumped everything else. The main and steady precip is under the best lift at those levels. 1" here on the nose, light snow now. The GFS was just too far north with that...there is good 700-500 vvs..just not like the GFS had. I think the issues we stated worked out..but a nice little event anyways for some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 That stuff to the west is expanding decently. Both ALB and PSF now reporting vis of 1/2 and 1/4 respectively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 That stuff to the west is expanding decently. Both ALB and PSF now reporting vis of 1/2 and 1/4 respectively.yeah and so is stuff to SW. Gotta say other than Euro models have done really well with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 yeah and so is stuff to SW. Gotta say other than Euro models have done really well with this GFS was way too aggressive, but we all thought that. I think euro was best..it had the least QPF and will be right..AWT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 GFS was way too aggressive, but we all thought that. I think euro was best..it had the least QPF and will be right..AWT. Agreed. GFS implied widespread 3-5" with probably spot 6"+. Not even close. The area to the west should allow the 1-2" with spot 3"+ to verify which is basically what the Euro had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 GFS was way too aggressive, but we all thought that. I think euro was best..it had the least QPF and will be right..AWT.Dude the Euro was abysmal with this. It had no snow anywhere in SNE 2 days ago. It def was the worst on this one. No question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 That stuff to the west is expanding decently. Both ALB and PSF now reporting vis of 1/2 and 1/4 respectively.Looks to me like the northern fringe people could pick up to an inch of snow as this marches east Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Dude the Euro was abysmal with this. It had no snow anywhere in SNE 2 days ago. It def was the worst on this one. No question Yes, it was bad inside of 60 hours...but last night's forecast will definitely beat the over-zealous GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 GFS was way too aggressive, but we all thought that. I think euro was best inside of 36 hours..it had the least QPF and will be right..AWT. Euro had NO QPF 36-48 hours out on this storm. The 12z Sunday Euro was a total whiff. This year outside of 36-48 hours... GFS/NAM always overdo. What was once a 60-72 hour lead on the Euro for dead on accuracy is down to about 1.5 days this year. It's a clear pattern that happens over and over with one going too aggressive and the Euro seemingly constantly underplaying these threats. Happened a bunch of times last year too on marginal events. EDIT: Don't forget...the Euro barely even had a wave...it's not like it was just keeping it offshore, it almost entirely missed the concept this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesnichols1989 Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I was just too aggressive with the overall lift and dynamics thinking a positively tilted trough would deliver the goods. I admit it I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Dude the Euro was abysmal with this. It had no snow anywhere in SNE 2 days ago. It def was the worst on this one. No question Last nights Euro made the GFS its b*tch. We all thought that and the forecasts near and north of the pike for very little snow will work out for the most part. Elevated areas like ORH may do better, but overall the flags we all raised with this were pretty much correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yes, it was bad inside of 60 hours...but last night's forecast will definitely beat the over-zealous GFS.But how can you say it was better than other models? It gave us s sunny day 2 days ago. It kept coming NW while other models had snow . Sure GFS was too hefty Qpf wise, but it had the right idea before euro. So did the nam sadly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Last nights Euro made the GFS its b*tch. We all thought that and the forecasts near and north of the pike for very little snow will work out for the most part. Elevated areas like ORH may do better, but overall the flags we all raised with this were pretty much correct.I don't agree with most of that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I don't agree with most of that It's pretty much correct. Yes, 60hrs ago the euro was a whiff, but the 6" the GFS threw out to practically I-90 was absurd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's pretty much correct. Yes, 60hrs ago the euro was a whiff, but the 6" the GFS threw out to practically I-90 was absurd.Maybe I'm dumb but I don't see how the Euro beat or won anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Mid level fronto and mois convergence will possibly strengthen the albany stuff moving east says box Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 But how can you say it was better than other models? It gave us s sunny day 2 days ago. It kept coming NW while other models had snow . Sure GFS was too hefty Qpf wise, but it had the right idea before euro. So did the nam sadly I wasn't comparing it to 48 hours ago...I was comparing it to the forecasts that were formulated yesterday for this event. I agree the Euro stunk a couple days out on this one, but once we were making forecasts yesterday for accumulations, it had the best idea. The GFS wins this one from 48 hours out...it came in last place for inside of 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Maybe I'm dumb but I don't see how the Euro beat or won anythingThe euro may have been behind, but in the end it was on the right path versus the heavy snow amounts the gfs had late to the pike...I guess both arguments may be valid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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